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More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: June 24, 2015 21:48

BB Boxscores

1 The Rolling Stones, The Temperance Movement Orlando Citrus Bowl Stadium Orlando, Fla. June 12, 2015 $9,367,879 47,262 / 47,262 1 / 1 $395, $175, $69.50, $29.50 Concerts West/AEG Live

2 The Rolling Stones, Grace Potter AT&T Stadium Arlington, Texas June 6, 2015 $9,294,552 47,535 /
47,535 1 / 1 $395, $195, $65, $29.50 Concerts West/AEG Live

3 The Rolling Stones, Awolnation Heinz Field Pittsburgh, Pa. June 20, 2015 $9,125,120 54,136 /
54,136 1 / 1 $375, $175, $69.50, $29.50 Concerts West/AEG Live

4 The Rolling Stones, Brad Paisley LP Field Nashville, Tenn. June 17, 2015 $8,416,049 47,242 /
47,242 1 / 1 $350, $175, $65, $29.50 Concerts West/AEG Live

5 The Rolling Stones, Grace Potter TCF Bank Stadium Minneapolis, Minn. June 3, 2015 $8,328,199 41,517 / 41,517 1 / 1 $395, $149.50, $65, $29.50 Concerts West/AEG Live

6 The Rolling Stones, St. Paul & the Broken Bones Bobby Dodd Stadium at Grant Field Atlanta, Ga. June 9, 2015 $7,625,554 42,320 / 42,320 1 / 1 $395, $150, $69.50, $29.50 Concerts West/AEG Live

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: June 24, 2015 21:54

All sell outs...respectable!

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: Milan ()
Date: June 24, 2015 21:54

Thanks!

(link -- [www.billboard.com])

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: firebird ()
Date: June 24, 2015 22:04

Hmmm... attendance 47,535 for Arlington, can that be correct?

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: Milan ()
Date: June 24, 2015 22:11

Yes.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: June 24, 2015 22:32

Very, very nice.

Selling out stadiums in their seventies.
Amazing band,our band.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: mitchrambler ()
Date: June 25, 2015 01:39

how bout osu?

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 25, 2015 01:48

Where are the seating available whiners!!!???

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: June 25, 2015 03:02

I'm surprised at the small attendance in Dallas AT&T Stadium. Cowboys can draw over 100k to a game. Stage must have been set up around 30 yard line or so instead of the endzone?

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: June 25, 2015 03:12

Quote
DGA35
I'm surprised at the small attendance in Dallas AT&T Stadium. Cowboys can draw over 100k to a game. Stage must have been set up around 30 yard line or so instead of the endzone?

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-06-25 03:13 by More Hot Rocks.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: Brstonesfan ()
Date: June 25, 2015 04:18

The gross is very impressive considering that only one (1) show has had over 50k. The "sell outs" are no longer imo, truly reflective for any artists, as we all know that these stadiums , even with very large stages, can easily accomadate 60-80k fans. Whatever the final number of tickets that are sold are now "sell outs". Just compare these box scores to the 89, 94, 97, and other big tours....we saw over 50k at many venues and they were not officially sold out.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: June 25, 2015 04:26

$150+ million....not a bad 6 day's work.

Thanks for sharing. Us stats geeks like smiling smiley

- swiss

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: June 25, 2015 04:40

these figures look a little off- the stadium in dallas is HUGE and the place looked packed.

47000 in that place would've had alot of empty seats and i didnt see any.all shows have some but there it would've been really obvious and it looked full.

to give an example the record for the AT&T is 104,000 for a george strait concert.even though that was in the round if the stones had less than half that it would've looked empty.

i've been to many,many stadium shows over the years and i would guess that crowd as being closer to 65 or 70,000 easily.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: June 25, 2015 08:00

Quote
mitchrambler
how bout osu?

Posted here:
[www.iorr.org]

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: Milan ()
Date: June 25, 2015 15:17

Also, on the Zip Code Tour's wiki page -- [en.wikipedia.org]

(it looks nicer smiling smiley)

Stats for the 14 on fire -- [en.wikipedia.org]

Stats for the 50 & counting -- [en.wikipedia.org]

... and even some older ones - BtB tour -- [en.wikipedia.org], No Security tour -- [en.wikipedia.org]



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Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: BILLPERKS ()
Date: June 25, 2015 19:34

If you folks consider these shows stadium sellouts, you need help.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: June 25, 2015 20:31

Quote
BILLPERKS
If you folks consider these shows stadium sellouts, you need help.

Do you mean sellouts, as in

(1) "They're selling out, man, What do these 70+ musicians need yet another $100 mil for? They should be playing small club dates for fun at this point."

or

(2) "Wow, all these seats are selling out!"?

- swiss

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: June 25, 2015 20:33

Brstonesfan wrote:

"... Whatever the final number of tickets that are sold are now "sell outs". Just compare these box scores to the 89, 94, 97, and other big tours....we saw over 50k at many venues and they were not officially sold out".

Hmmm...You kindled my curiosity, so, speaking about the Stones, I just saw Backland's stats as for 1997 and 1998 northamerican gigs (I haven't seen analytic stats from 1989 and 1994).

Well, only two gigs over 50K had not been reported as sold out on 1997 - 98 northamerican tour (Maiami, Honolulu). And one over 40K (Fort Worth). As for the others, over 40K ment officially sold out.

Talking about SAME venues, at the stadium of Columbus 59.038 people attended the Stones in 2015 and 60,621 in 1997. Similar numbers. Also, 47,262 attended the band recently at Orlando's stadium and only 32,723 in 1997 (the "humple" number of 35,000 had been mentioned as capacity, then).

Overall, for the time being, we have stats from 6 cities where the Stones did stadium gigs in 2015 and in 1997-98. Columbus, Nashville, Minneapolis, Orlando, Atlanda, San Diego. (as I wrote, only saw two venues being the same, now and then)

As for these six cities, the total attendance numbers were 292,541 for 1997-98. They are 278,323 for 2015.

Considering, not only the current ticket prices, but mainly the fact that the Stones have played "to death" in the USA and Canada since 1989, I think their popularity, as live act, is more than amazing...

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: June 25, 2015 21:05

Quote
laertisflash

As for these six cities, the total attendance numbers were 292,541 for 1997-98. They are 278,323 for 2015.

Considering, not only the current ticket prices, but mainly the fact that the Stones have played "to death" in the USA and Canada since 1989, I think their popularity, as live act, is more than amazing...


that's amazing,good work-to think that they are doing nearly the same numbers with only less than 15 thousand tickets difference from the bridges to babylon tour is awe inspiring.
the bad news is our dream of seeing them playing small shows to 2500 people and digging into the catalogue a little more at the end of their career just isn't happening.

they'll never be less than an arena band until the end now,they've just picked up too many fans over the years for anything less.

people are looking at the wrong angle here anyway-they dont care about getting the most people in the seats.that other number is the one they look at-$8 or $9 million a night.
if they sold the tickets for $125 $75 and $45 they could pack any stadium for two nights running.first it would sell out and then everyone would come back the second night like 81-82.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: Brstonesfan ()
Date: June 25, 2015 21:17

Valid points. I just think that of 60-70
tickets sold, they could accommodate. The reason
the massive stadiums look full is they moving the
stage more forward and reducing field
and side view seats. Still, they
are maximizing profit by playing
only 1 show in venues substantially
Less expensive to rent than
major arenas' where they would have to
play 2 shows.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: June 26, 2015 19:15

"...The reason the massive stadiums look full is they moving the stage more forward and reducing field and side view seats..."

Brstonesfan, I think this is a kind of "rule", worldwide. That's why we see, for example, Bernabeu, a really huge european stadium, being packed by less than 60,000 people (Stones gig 2014, 57,416 tickets sold, sell out), even less than 55,000 (Bruce Springsteen 2012, 54,639 tickets sold, sell out).

In any case, the whole "sold out" thing has to do with the number of available tickets, not the real max.capacity or the capacity for sport events.

Of course, as you say, many times ... "whatever the final number of tickets that are sold are 'sell outs'". But I think that this "policy", as a rule, mainly refers to Bon Jovi... Not to the Stones, not to Bruce, not to U2...

For example, on ABB Stones tour, the gig at Amsterdam Arena had been reported as near sold out (50,000 / 52,000). Normal number, as we know the particular venue . But the Bon Jovi gig at the same venue in 2008 had been reported as sold out by a 34,512 attendance number...

Hard to believe that the tickets available for Bon Jovi gigs only were 37,125 at Letzigrund (2011), 34,512 at Amsterdam Arena (2008), 39,736 at Hampden Park (2008), 44,013 at Hyde Park (2013)...

Anyway...

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: July 8, 2015 20:05

Any updates on the post Atlanta shows?

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: July 9, 2015 02:18

Quote
laertisflash
"...The reason the massive stadiums look full is they moving the stage more forward and reducing field and side view seats..."

Brstonesfan, I think this is a kind of "rule", worldwide. That's why we see, for example, Bernabeu, a really huge european stadium, being packed by less than 60,000 people (Stones gig 2014, 57,416 tickets sold, sell out), even less than 55,000 (Bruce Springsteen 2012, 54,639 tickets sold, sell out).

In any case, the whole "sold out" thing has to do with the number of available tickets, not the real max.capacity or the capacity for sport events.

Of course, as you say, many times ... "whatever the final number of tickets that are sold are 'sell outs'". But I think that this "policy", as a rule, mainly refers to Bon Jovi... Not to the Stones, not to Bruce, not to U2...

For example, on ABB Stones tour, the gig at Amsterdam Arena had been reported as near sold out (50,000 / 52,000). Normal number, as we know the particular venue . But the Bon Jovi gig at the same venue in 2008 had been reported as sold out by a 34,512 attendance number...

Hard to believe that the tickets available for Bon Jovi gigs only were 37,125 at Letzigrund (2011), 34,512 at Amsterdam Arena (2008), 39,736 at Hampden Park (2008), 44,013 at Hyde Park (2013)...

Anyway...

U2's 360 tour sold every seat in the venue available, which means ALL seats, since there was no moving the stage up...

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: Milan ()
Date: July 9, 2015 14:21

Quote
kovach
Any updates on the post Atlanta shows?

Yes:

[en.wikipedia.org]

[www.billboard.com]



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Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: July 9, 2015 20:56

Quote
GasLightStreet

U2's 360 tour sold every seat in the venue available, which means ALL seats, since there was no moving the stage up...


the 360 tour beat the stones REAL tour record-from the 1981 tour of an average of 60,000 seats sold.
no other tour before or since had touched that record,not pink floyd,not michael jackson-no one,it stood for nearly 30 years.

the 360 tour did an average of 66,000 seats sold per night but there are literally about 85 million more people living in the states than in 1981.

so the stones at their touring peak in [81] had less people to sell tickets to than U2 at their peak[09?] but still no tour has really come close to 81 or 360 by the stones,U2 or anyone else for that matter.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: July 9, 2015 22:07

"The Stones at their touring peak in '81..."?

I don't think so, Lem Motlow... The numbers from the Stones tours of the decade 1989 - 1999 were more impressive.

As for U2 360, yes, it is inaccessible. But the Stones have more "rounds" among the most attended tours ever. Except 360, there is one U2 tour that had attracted over 5 million people ("Zoo", if I remember correctly). The Stones did two tours attended by more than 6 million (1989-90 6.5m, 1994-95 6.3m) and one more that had attracted 5.7m people (1997-99).

Due to their age, they give us small rounds of 15 or 18 gigs now. Logical. But, to be honest, I couldn't imagine any other touring act, solo artist or band, being able to fill stadiums at the age of 72, like it did it two decades ago. Not even U2, 15- 20 years from now, I guess..

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: July 9, 2015 22:20

... Allow me to add something: The difference between average attendance figures does not mean a lot IMO, as we are talking about a completely stadium tour (with the stage being at the middle of the field) and about a stadium/arena one...

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: July 9, 2015 22:39

you're talking about figures from "tours" that ran a couple of years across continents and back again.

the 81 stones tour was 50 shows and sold 3 million tickets at an average of 60,000 a night- not sure about the european 82 half of it.

as i said,no one had come close to that until the 360 tour came in at 66,000 aveage.voodoo lounge was probably the closest with 51,000 per show average.

but even with the U2 trek and voodoo lounge you had millions and millions of more people living on the planet in the 1990's and the 2000,s

if you did the math-factored in the population growth of the states and europe and how many tickets the stones 81-82 tour sold i'll bet it would still be on top for per show average attendance.if i had the time i'd calculate it,maybe later.

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: July 9, 2015 23:26

I dunno. U2 played college football stadiums as well as NFL stadiums. Demand is demand. Not sure if population growth is exactly scientific regarding a band selling out a stadium due to stage design and placement...

Afterall, the Stones didn't sell out all of their ABB shows in NFL stadiums and, you know, with population increase... spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: More Boxscores from Billboard
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: July 10, 2015 01:30

by the start of bigger bang in 2002 the stones were 40 years into their career,a place U2 wont be until around 2020 or so.

if bono and the boys do a stadium tour and average 66,000 people a night 5 years from now i'll concede the point.

having said that,i like U2. we're lucky to have a rock band who are that popular in this day and age,selling records and touring.
i haven't seen them live since vertigo but they are a damn good band.

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