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keefriffhards
to me it would of been an obvious choice for the two of them to tour while Mick and Keith fell out. why did keith go out on the road with Waddy and not Ronnie ?
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DandelionPowderman
They toured in 1987 and 1988 when Keith formed his solo band.
we are both wrong wino's tour was 89 not 88. still they did very little between 82 and 88Quote
DandelionPowderman
See my post above. Keith did Hail Hail Rock'n'Roll in 1987, which was quite a project. And Keith and Ronnie also did JJF with Aretha. Then came Ronnie's big tour with Bo Diddley on several continents.
Didn't Keith write songs and rehearse for his solo album in 1987 as well?
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keefriffhards
we are both wrong wino's tour was 89 not 88.
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keefriffhardswe are both wrong wino's tour was 89 not 88. still they did very little between 82 and 88Quote
DandelionPowderman
See my post above. Keith did Hail Hail Rock'n'Roll in 1987, which was quite a project. And Keith and Ronnie also did JJF with Aretha. Then came Ronnie's big tour with Bo Diddley on several continents.
Didn't Keith write songs and rehearse for his solo album in 1987 as well?
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keefriffhards
we are both wrong wino's tour was 89 not 88.
It was 1988 - November 24th to December 17th, to be exact. (Steel Wheels was 1989, remember?)
You really need to Ask Keith if the quite reasonable ideas you've gotten from Dande don't work for you.
You also probably want to get acquainted with Nico Zentgraf's fine site for checking dates of things: [www.nzentgraf.de]
Sheer speculation but: Maybe Keith and/or Ronnie realized it could be another blunt-force trauma to the Stones
if two of them toured together - like if Charlie had toured with either Mick or Keith,
or Ronnie with Mick without Keith. Anything like that would be considerably more of a slap to the other Glimmer
than doing stuff without any other Stones involved. And Keith very much wanted the Stones back together.
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keefriffhards
sorry, my bad, but you are really splitting hairs here.
Ronnie would of jumped at the chance to tour with Keith. a spat with Bo Diddley dont come into it.
hail hail rock and roll was a one off show.
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keefriffhards
hail hail rock and roll was a one off show.
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keefriffhards
sorry, my bad, but you are really splitting hairs here.
Ronnie would of jumped at the chance to tour with Keith. a spat with Bo Diddley dont come into it.
hail hail rock and roll was a one off show.
... Huh? What "spat with Bo Diddley"??
Keith did more than just a "one-off show" for Hail Hail Rock & Roll; and he was rehearsing, writing and recording
with Steve Jordan and other Winos off and on throughout 1987. But anyway!
Since you reject everyone's thoughts about it, there's no reason for you to ask us the question.
Ask Keith: [www.keithrichards.com]
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we are both wrong wino's tour was 89 not 88.
It was 1988 - November 24th to December 17th, to be exact. (Steel Wheels was 1989, remember?)
You really need to Ask Keith if the quite reasonable ideas you've gotten from Dande don't work for you.
You also probably want to get acquainted with Nico Zentgraf's fine site for checking dates of things: [www.nzentgraf.de]
Sheer speculation but: Maybe Keith and/or Ronnie realized it could be another blunt-force trauma to the Stones
if two of them toured together - like if Charlie had toured with either Mick or Keith,
or Ronnie with Mick without Keith. Anything like that would be considerably more of a slap to the other Glimmer
than doing stuff without any other Stones involved. And Keith very much wanted the Stones back together.
sorry, my bad, but you are really splitting hairs here.. Ronnie would of jumped at the chance to tour with Keith. a spat with Bo Diddley dont come into it..
hail hail rock and roll was a one off show.
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keefriffhards
we are both wrong wino's tour was 89 not 88.
It was 1988 - November 24th to December 17th, to be exact. (Steel Wheels was 1989, remember?)
You really need to Ask Keith if the quite reasonable ideas you've gotten from Dande don't work for you.
You also probably want to get acquainted with Nico Zentgraf's fine site for checking dates of things: [www.nzentgraf.de]
Sheer speculation but: Maybe Keith and/or Ronnie realized it could be another blunt-force trauma to the Stones
if two of them toured together - like if Charlie had toured with either Mick or Keith,
or Ronnie with Mick without Keith. Anything like that would be considerably more of a slap to the other Glimmer
than doing stuff without any other Stones involved. And Keith very much wanted the Stones back together.
sorry, my bad, but you are really splitting hairs here.. Ronnie would of jumped at the chance to tour with Keith. a spat with Bo Diddley dont come into it..
hail hail rock and roll was a one off show.
Look, there were two shows, rehearsals, one album produced by Keith, the film and he was the musical director of the show as well. Then comes the Talk Is Cheap rehearsals, writing, band forming, recording, album release, tour...
And before this he recorded, played and produced Aretha + Ronnie and Bo Diddley toured the US, Europe and Japan.
That was their 1987. Probably some more work as well. This is NOT «very little», ok?
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keefriffhards
got the feeling people on here are over reacting. i feel like everything i say is being taken the wrong way. jesus i wish i never asked the question.
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got the feeling people on here are over reacting. i feel like everything i say is being taken the wrong way. jesus i wish i never asked the question.
LoFL: Sweetie, maybe that's because you're expressing yourself very badly.
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Roll73
There was a concerted effort apparently to keep Woody away from Keith in terms of playing/ touring in the run up to Talk is Cheap (and before that with the Chuck Berry project)- instigated in no small part by Jane Rose. Bill German covers it in his book - and recalls that he asked Keith at the time and he said that if he was going to do a solo project it should really be Stone-free so to speak.
thanks lidas, i kind of did get my facts wrong, no one is perfect. im doing two jobs at once lol this iorr is addictive lol.Quote
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got the feeling people on here are over reacting. i feel like everything i say is being taken the wrong way. jesus i wish i never asked the question.
LoFL: Sweetie, maybe that's because you're expressing yourself very badly.
He's expressing himself perfectly well, and he is absolutely right, you can leave your nasty attitude out the door. What if every time you asked for details on Keith's guitars people addressed you to Ask Keith?
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we are both wrong wino's tour was 89 not 88.
It was 1988 - November 24th to December 17th, to be exact. (Steel Wheels was 1989, remember?)
You really need to Ask Keith if the quite reasonable ideas you've gotten from Dande don't work for you.
You also probably want to get acquainted with Nico Zentgraf's fine site for checking dates of things: [www.nzentgraf.de]
Sheer speculation but: Maybe Keith and/or Ronnie realized it could be another blunt-force trauma to the Stones
if two of them toured together - like if Charlie had toured with either Mick or Keith,
or Ronnie with Mick without Keith. Anything like that would be considerably more of a slap to the other Glimmer
than doing stuff without any other Stones involved. And Keith very much wanted the Stones back together.
sorry, my bad, but you are really splitting hairs here.. Ronnie would of jumped at the chance to tour with Keith. a spat with Bo Diddley dont come into it..
hail hail rock and roll was a one off show.
Look, there were two shows, rehearsals, one album produced by Keith, the film and he was the musical director of the show as well. Then comes the Talk Is Cheap rehearsals, writing, band forming, recording, album release, tour...
And before this he recorded, played and produced Aretha + Ronnie and Bo Diddley toured the US, Europe and Japan.
That was their 1987. Probably some more work as well. This is NOT «very little», ok?
Back to your corner DP...you've more than proven your point...nice work
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Roll73
There was a concerted effort apparently to keep Woody away from Keith in terms of playing/ touring in the run up to Talk is Cheap (and before that with the Chuck Berry project)- instigated in no small part by Jane Rose. Bill German covers it in his book - and recalls that he asked Keith at the time and he said that if he was going to do a solo project it should really be Stone-free so to speak.
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keefriffhards
to me it would of been an obvious choice for the two of them to tour while Mick and Keith fell out. why did keith go out on the road with Waddy and not Ronnie ?
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liddas
He's expressing himself perfectly well, and he is absolutely right ...
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keefriffhards
i was just thinking about this. i asked a question. dandi gave her answer. i did not think that was the reason keith and ronnie did not tour together. so am i not able to think that that was the wrong answer. so ssoul jumps down my throat at the first chance he gets because i am new on here or what..
to my mind two people in this post have given it some thought and actually i do agree with them..
can some one tell me if this bullying is normal..