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Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: jabhead ()
Date: May 30, 2015 20:12

Man, I haven't listened to this in years, but this morning while walking the dog I listened to Crazy Mama through CS Blues. Is that Mac, Stu, or both on the left side of the mix? I like the B3 on CS Blues. Super cool,I wish they still had the keyboard sound now! Love the fast Gimme Shelter, too bad it cuts toward the end. That could have been a barn burner in the set.

Beautiful Delilah is primal guitar weave!

A lot of filler over 4 discs but this could be edited into a killer single CD.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-05-30 20:14 by jabhead.

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: piper ()
Date: May 30, 2015 21:23

Those recordings are priceless

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: peoplewitheyes ()
Date: May 30, 2015 22:20

I'd never heard these before. lots of it is on YT, but I couldn't find Crazy Mama...

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: CCKALE ()
Date: May 31, 2015 03:45

Hey All ,
are you talking about PARR MEADOWS, in Long Island NY . The WS Reunion , 10 years after ?

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: CCKALE ()
Date: May 31, 2015 03:47

Sorry think i made a mistake , was just corrected by a friend
peace

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: May 31, 2015 03:56

Next release from The Vaults: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978 SUPERDELUXE BOX thumbs up

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: onlystones ()
Date: May 31, 2015 04:30

This is cool I just listened to Some Girls Live in Texas while I grocery shopped today. I hope it has complete ABC News Interviews with Geraldo Rivera.

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: peoplewitheyes ()
Date: July 24, 2017 01:45

I'm just discovering this for the first time now. Wow! What great stuff - the speeding Gimme Shelter, and such a soulful Beast of Burden.

I haven't found Crazy Mama yet on youtube...

What's the story about these recordings? Getting ready for the tour, obviously, but where? For how long? Who recorded it? Who leaked it?

Looking forward to learning a bit...

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: peoplewitheyes ()
Date: July 24, 2017 01:49

well, I just found this article, which pretty much tells the whole story...

Still, I always like to hear you guys' thoughts and stories...

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: peoplewitheyes ()
Date: July 24, 2017 01:54

wow! and Miss You sounds pretty menacing

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: July 24, 2017 04:48

There's a local folk musician who was recruited for a recording session of the album Mick was producing (Bush Doctor by Peter Tosh). I may have first read this story on IORR a couple years back, but I figured it would be a nice fit for this thread, as it provides a rare outsider's impression of what the environment for that pre-tour stopover in Woodstock was like. The musician's name is Happy Traum.



In June of 1978, I was getting ready to go on tour in Europe with my group, the Woodstock Mountains Revue, when I got a call from Griff McKree, the studio manager of the famed Bearsville Sound Studio in Woodstock, a mile or so from my house. Griff said that some musicians would be working there and they were looking for “some kind of a harp” for one of their songs. Could I suggest something?

“Do you mean an Autoharp?”

“I don’t know... maybe,” he said uncertainly, “do you have one?”

I had heard some rumors about the Rolling Stones being to town to rehearse for their upcoming “Some Girls” tour, but it was all hush-hush and very top secret. There were unconfirmed celebrity sightings at our local fruit stand and juice bar but, typically for Woodstock residents used to rock and roll celebrities in their midst, no one was talking. Speare Road, the only direct access avenue to the studio, had been blocked off and was being patrolled by security guards, and all traffic in and out was subject to serious scrutiny. So, sensing an “in,” I feigned ignorance and said that yes, I did have one.

“Can we borrow or rent it,” he asked?

“I don’t know,” I replied, “this is a very special instrument and I wouldn’t want it to leave my sight. I couldn’t lend it out unless I came with it. ” In fact, the Autoharp in question was a $15 yard-sale purchase in a battered cardboard case that belonged to my teenage daughter and was gathering dust under her bed. I had never played it (or any other Autoharp) in public before.

Griff then confided to me that Mick Jagger was producing an album with a well-known reggae musician and they were looking for something with a “harp-like sound” to add to a track. “If you came up here with it, do you think you could teach this person to play it?”

Knowing that, with its push-button chords, the Autoharp is one of the easiest instruments in the world to master, I assured him that I could. “Great! I’ll leave your name with security. Come on up.”

After spending an hour or so wrestling with the tuning key to get the many-stringed Autoharp into playable condition, I drove up the long driveway to the studio and gave my name to two bruisers in aviator shades who were manning a barricade blocking the access road. One of them consulted a list, smiled and waved me through.

Bearsville Sound Studio was housed in a large cinderblock structure clad in rough-sawn, dark-stained hemlock and surrounded by thick woods. It contained two state-of-the-art recording rooms plus a rec room (complete with a pool table), sleeping accommodations, eating area and a large vault for tape storage. It was built by Albert Grossman, who had mentored and managed artists such as Bob Dylan, Peter, Paul and Mary, Janis Joplin, the Band, Todd Rundgren, Paul Butterfield, and many other top folk, blues and rock acts of the day. The studio was already legendary, and hit albums had been made there by most of Albert’s clients as well as an “A-list” of other recording artists who were drawn to Woodstock by the scene that developed following the ’69 festival.

I parked in the driveway, walked into the entrance foyer and was immediately hit by the thick smell of pot smoke and the sight of some Rasta guys hanging out and passing around a huge, cigar-shaped spliff. Griff warmly introduced me to the three Jamaicans: Peter Tosh, Robbie Shakespeare and Sly Dunbar. My mouth fell open. I was face-to-face with three of the world’s greatest reggae musicians! Before I could recover, the joint was immediately passed to me - how could I turn it down and not be un-cool?


Already in a slightly dream-like state, I was ushered into a corner of the lobby with Peter Tosh and proceeded to try to teach him the rudiments of Autoharp strumming. He quickly lost interest and said, “No mon, I don’t want to play this. You record it!” But first, another gigantic spliff appeared, and I was reeling.

I was ushered into Studio B, the smaller of the two recording rooms at Bearsville, given a chair and headphones, and Tommy Edmonds, one of the engineers, adjusted two mics over the instrument. In the shadows behind the desk in the control room I could barely make out some people standing around, including the slim figure of Mick Jagger slouching in a corner. Now I was both stoned and nervous!

“Okay, run it so I can get a sense of the song,” I requested, and the basic track for “Creation” played in my headphones as I tried desperately to keep the room from spinning out of control. I began by randomly strumming, trying to find a part to play, trying out different chords on this instrument that I had barely ever played before. By the song’s end I was just beginning to feel like I had some ideas for how I would handle it when a voice came over the intercom: “Thanks man, that’s great.” I sat there stunned. “But,” I stammered, “I haven’t done it yet!” “No, it’s fine. We have what we need.”

Deflated and a little embarrassed, I walked through the control room, past Peter, Sly, Robbie, Mick and others, some smiling, nodding and saying it was great.

I was just recovering my composure when a slightly nervous young woman introduced herself to me as a representative of Rolling Stones Records. She had some forms for me to sign and asked, a little sheepishly, if I would give them permission to use my track. “They’re asking me?” I thought, but immediately gave her my stipulations: I wanted to be paid union scale and I wanted a credit on the back of the album. (Who wouldn’t want his name attached to “Produced by Mick Jagger” on an album cover?) She assured me that this would be no problem and I signed. As it turned out, however, there was a problem. It had to do with work authorization for the Jamaicans. They didn’t have the proper papers so they couldn’t indicate on the album that the songs were recorded in the U.S. So, when it finally came out, my name was seen, in fine print, among a very long list headed “Special Thanks.”

In the final mix, my part was processed with lots of reverb and added to background voices, guitars, percussion and sound effects that evoked “creation”: massive thunder claps, screeching bird calls, rolling surf and, at the end, strident rooster crows. It’s a huge production and, strangely enough, the Autoharp actually sounds pretty good! And, I can tell my friends that I played on a Peter Tosh album produced by Mick Jagger. It’s just a little hard to prove.

The security guys now knew my name and face, and they assumed that I belonged there, so I had full access. I hung out for the rest of the day and was waved through the roadblocks the next day as well to watch the Stones rehearsing in Studio A. There was a lot of down time, with some of the band, road crew, studio staff and a few inevitable hangers-on milling about the halls of Bearsville, drinking coffee and eating sandwiches. Keith was lounging about in full view but I was too shy to engage him in conversation. Since reading his terrific book, “Life,” I realize that we had a lot more in common than I had known at the time, and I actually could have discussed some of the blues artists and other musicians whom we knew in common. Back then, it was just too intimidating.

I don’t know its exact dimensions, but Bearsville’s Studio A was a massive rectangular room with soaring ceilings and stark concrete walls hung with colored fabric baffles. The Stones had a bank of amplifiers lined up near one of the long sides, with mics and instruments on stands towards the center of the room. Behind one of the amps was a tray with a huge mound of coke - supplied, not doubt, by one of the local dealers who crawl out of the woodwork whenever an opportunity arises. I would imagine this was a big payday for somebody, although in Keith’s book he says he was totally clean during this period. I have no idea about the other guys.
The rehearsals started out in a relaxed, low key way, with the band members strolling in, tuning up, wandering about and eventually settling down and starting to casually play some blues. Eventually, Mick or Keith would saunter over to the mic and suddenly they would launch into a song. There, before my eyes (and ears), was a full-fledged version of one of the songs the Stones were working up for their upcoming tour. Only a handful of people were watching, including crew members, and I tried to make myself as small and inconspicuous as possible, thinking I could get thrown out at any point.

The rehearsals went on for a couple of days more, but unfortunately I had to pack for my flight to Europe the next day. I reluctantly left my privileged spot against the wall in Studio A and drove home. I haven’t seen the Stones in person again since then.

Above taken from Happy Traum's website: [www.happytraum.com]

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: peoplewitheyes ()
Date: July 24, 2017 05:17

Fantastic, Stonehearted!

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: July 24, 2017 05:38

Happy Traum, what a great name!

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: Roscoe ()
Date: July 24, 2017 07:52

I have an old bootleg 2-CD set of the '78 Woodstock rehearsals called "Pearls at Swine". It has 22 tracks on the first CD and 18 on the second. Haven't listened to it in ages. Time to give it a spin. Thanks for the push!

There's a note on the booklet that reads: "Please Note: The distortion on certain tracks is caused by one of Bill Wyman's exploding speaker cabinets. It is not through any defect of the mastering process."

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: saltoftheearth ()
Date: July 28, 2017 10:05

Quote
jabhead
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A lot of filler over 4 discs but this could be edited into a killer single CD.

What songs would you put on such a CD?

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: July 28, 2017 18:09

The complete 4CD set is sometimes seen on ebay, partly very cheap. It's from OMS, an exact copy of the VGP + cardboard case.

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: July 29, 2017 16:15

Felix Aeppli once wrote in a US zine that he saw about 90 minutes of filmed footage (at Videojames' place) from the Woodstock rehearsals so I wonder how much footage from this era exists...

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: JMARKO ()
Date: July 29, 2017 23:03

The film of the rehearsals comes from the raw footage shot for the Geraldo Rivera 1978 20/20 interview on ABC TV. You can see a bit of it in the interview footage that has circulated.

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: django ()
Date: July 29, 2017 23:49

Woodstock footage starts at 1:09

[www.youtube.com]

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: July 30, 2017 16:50

"Play With Fire" from 78 Rehearsals:

[www.youtube.com]

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: October 30, 2021 02:33

So it seems an upgraded version has appeared out of the blue ?

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Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: exil ()
Date: October 30, 2021 08:28

Thats great footage.

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: October 30, 2021 11:20

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gotdablouse
So it seems an upgraded version has appeared out of the blue ?

Yeah G., at Trader's Den earlier this year. It's a much lower-gen tape than the VGP set so it sounds notably better. To my ears it runs a tiny bit slow though.

But - as you know - the material is stellar (the long angry "Miss You", the electric "Cs Blues" etc etc) even though the band was still warming up for the tour.
1978 was definitely their best year since... 71? 72?
You can excuse the band for being more or less dry in 79 if you consider how productive they were the year before.

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: October 30, 2021 14:13

They rehearsed "@#$%& Blues" during that time if I remember correctly. That is a one of a kind occurrence I believe.
Rockandroll,
Mops

Re: Woodstock Rehearsals 1978
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: October 30, 2021 15:00

After sifting through my stuff I found that this "new" leak is in fact not "new" as in a few weeks ago, it can be heard on "1978_AcidProject 063" ;-)

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