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peoplewitheyes
Really, the Beach Boys are a much more active and still-creative band than the Stones have been for a decade or two...
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dcba
"Perhaps it's just time to end this..."
Reminds me of a "thing" that happened on a Germanwings flight...
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MrThompsonWooft
Maybe it's time to say farewell.
I think the idea here is that "The Beach Boys" of 2012 were basically a one off, fantastically successful, reunion with Brian, (this of course leads back to "Why won't our boys do the same thing" )and "The Beach Boys" today are a Mike Love driven nostalgia vehicle, and at least in my mind, rather sad and pathetic.Quote
peoplewitheyes
I don't know why the Beach Boys are used as the (negative) critical yardstick. They put out a generally fabulous album in 2012, with some breathtaking magic on it. (several of which were regularly played live)
Not to mention Brian Wilson's continuing solo work (new album next week) and the bunch of rich archive sets that have been released over the last 2 decades.
Really, the Beach Boys are a much more active and still-creative band than the Stones have been for a decade or two...
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treaclefingers
Having cleared the air, what you say is true, and it would be incredible to be the fly on the wall to see what the motivation is hear, besides money.
Adulation, relevance, love for the music?
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Gfmsoccer
They've earned the right to play on, well past their prime, for the love of the music, the fans, the money.
Mick pushed the band for new music with Bigger Bang. It took them years to pull that together. It was their best work in 25 years. Critics liked it, but fans did not buy it, and when they performed the new stuff, fans went for a beer, which Mick said in a few interviews. So he said @#$%& It! You want the big hits, you'll get them. We'll even let you vote on the songs we do.
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drbryant
To me, a musician is does not stop being an artist because he stops writing new material. The performance itself, every night, is the creative act. Others disagree, I know.
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peoplewitheyes
I don't know why the Beach Boys are used as the (negative) critical yardstick. They put out a generally fabulous album in 2012, with some breathtaking magic on it. (several of which were regularly played live)
Not to mention Brian Wilson's continuing solo work (new album next week) and the bunch of rich archive sets that have been released over the last 2 decades.
Really, the Beach Boys are a much more active and still-creative band than the Stones have been for a decade or two...
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drbryant
To me, a musician is does not stop being an artist because he stops writing new material. The performance itself, every night, is the creative act. Others disagree, I know.
Indeed! Neil Young keeps on releasing new albums full of mediocre songs... People buy tix to see him rip into "Hurricane" or "Free World". They don't care about the new songs.
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GasLightStreet
The problem with their creative act is it's so hit and miss. They've been able to blast Street Fighting Man, Monkey Man and a few others extremely well yet they completely ruin She's So Cold and Sway and a few others?
Why can they play Monkey Man so well but take a shit on She Was Hot? Why will they give Angie all they've got but they vomit on Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo? It's always amazed me, how they simply rush through and just get by with some songs while others are fantastic.
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drbryant
To me, a musician is does not stop being an artist because he stops writing new material. The performance itself, every night, is the creative act. Others disagree, I know.
I think a musical performance CAN be a creative act. A performance in which the artists challenge themselves, take risks, improvise, develop themes that vary from night to night. But this tends to NOT be characteristic of a modern-day Stones performance. They are a well-oiled human jukebox designed to spit out reasonable facsimiles of their glory days.
If you and I can be more than that when we're in our mid-70s, we'll be extremely happy. But no one can expect that of us, right?
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LongBeachArena72
I just thought when I first fell in love with them that they were something more.
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Bliss
They can do what they like, but it's a shame about the greed. My firend in LA wanted good seats for the LA concert, and they are $1700. Even the nosebleeds aren't cheap apparently.
WHAAAAAAT??
EDIT: It must be because there isn't any LA concert
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Bliss
They can do what they like, but it's a shame about the greed. My firend in LA wanted good seats for the LA concert, and they are $1700. Even the nosebleeds aren't cheap apparently.
WHAAAAAAT??
EDIT: It must be because there isn't any LA concert
Sorry, she was referring to Petco Park; she is in LA. Apparently the best seats were $1700.
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fuzzbox
The stones can end anytime you want them to, simply stop listening or paying attention to them from which ever point you wish them to cease to exist.
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bigbitch
There has not been a day in 40 years that I have not listed to, thought about, engaged in conversation about the Rolling Stones.....and that pattern will continue unabated I suspect based on the genius of it all.....but I never wanted to see the Stones turn into the Beach Boys and while it is a bit of cheap shot...Keith's remarks kind of sent me into massive amount of eye rolling....
Anyway Vive La Stones....
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MidnightPeanut
But then, why does Mick cave to beer drinkers buying beer during the new songs? As a long time hardcore fan I wish he'd stand firm on his new product and not let the casual fan dictate what the band plays. They are The Stones, he's Mick - folks will follow his lead. New, semi-new, and old fans would be all be stoked.
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drbryant
LongBeachArena72 said:
"My beef with them is that the road they have chosen is aesthetically less interesting and ultimately impoverishing to their legacy."
Very good point. For a few decades now they became strictly "performers" (mostly for the big money) and stopped being "artists". And you're spot-on when you say they're degrading their artistic legacy in the future for financial security today. They don't make artists like Lou Reed or Warren Zevon or Steve Earle anymore.
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fuzzbox
The stones can end anytime you want them to, simply stop listening or paying attention to them from which ever point you wish them to cease to exist.
Woaaa Fuzzbox are you a prophet ???
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gotdablouse
76,495 people in the palm of his hands in Paris, June 13th, 2014 :
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DoomandGloom
fuzzbox is not a girl?
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DoomandGloom
fuzzbox is not a girl?