When I listen to Elvis Presley and Clapton's soulful voices I can't help but think that Lennon and Jagger are both wimps.

I don't think you need a great voice to be good rock singer. Look at Mark Knopfler. Terrible voice but great to listen to.

Also, I never thought Elvis had a particularly great voice. He made the most of what he had but he's no Frank Sinatra (or Paul Rodgers if you want to stick to Rock).

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

Gene Simmons? Paul Stanley? OK, I don't quite get the joke but I'm laughing despite that.

If a rock voice is not melancholic or not sensual at all then it's not a great voice IMO.
And when it comes to this criteria, WHO is better than Elvis Presley?

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

I like about 20 on your list more than Lennon, and I could add a few.

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

Gene Simmons? Paul Stanley? OK, I don't quite get the joke but I'm laughing despite that.

The question was Lennon or Jagger...No need for a whole disertation regarding vocalist...But since you brought it to this level...Where is Robert Plant ???

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I am not sure why you think its only ok to say what music you like? I have never understood people like that.

Would you please tell me when did I say anything like that? Please quote the sentence where I said it. Or please don't put words in my mouth.

Your joking right. You just posted this.So like I said for you its ok if someone says they like music and says music is great but they should not say what music they hate or dislike.


Now are you going to proceed and try to deny the obvious some more?



3. And even if somebody doesn't like some music - let's say The Beatles - why do those peole always have the urge to inform everyone that Lennon (or anyone else) was crap. I think that forcing subjective personal opinions to other people as given facts can be quite dangerous. To be honest, I really hate THAT.



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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

I like about 20 on your list more than Lennon, and I could add a few.

Like who Davey Jones of the Monkees

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Gene Simmons? Paul Stanley? OK, I don't quite get the joke but I'm laughing despite that.

Haha, I only included those two because I knew someone would react this way

Paul Stanley cannot sing anymore but Gene still sounds the same at age of sixty-something as he did in his twenties.



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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

I like about 20 on your list more than Lennon, and I could add a few.

Like who Davey Jones of the Monkees

Ah, so you're a Monkees fan.

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

I like about 20 on your list more than Lennon, and I could add a few.

Like who Davey Jones of the Monkees

Ah, so you're a Monkees fan.

Oh yeah saw them live when Hendrix opened for them...Did you know Hendrix opened for them ???

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

I like about 20 on your list more than Lennon, and I could add a few.

Like who Davey Jones of the Monkees

Ah, so you're a Monkees fan.

Oh yeah saw them live when Hendrix opened for them...Did you know Hendrix opened for them ???

Yes, I do know that. Saw Hendrix at the Singer Bowl in Queens NY '68
Chambers Bros opened, with Big Brother & the Holding Company added as special guest.
Great show. Saw the Who open for the Doors same venue, same summer. Also a great show.

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

Gene Simmons? Paul Stanley? OK, I don't quite get the joke but I'm laughing despite that.

I'ts like looking at a car wreck. I keep staring at it wondering how something like this list can happen. George Thorogood? Oh the humanity!!

The Sons Of Beatles wipe the floor with both of 'em!

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

I had a kidney stone once. I never thought anything could be more painful. I was wrong. This list is.

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Gene Simmons? Paul Stanley? OK, I don't quite get the joke but I'm laughing despite that.

Haha, I only included those two because I knew someone would react this way

Paul Stanley cannot sing anymore but Gene still sounds the same at age of sixty-something as he did in his twenties.

baiting me? you are a master!

Looky looky! The troll's post has gone to seven pages! He probably has an erection.

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Looky looky! The troll's post has gone to seven pages! He probably has an erection.

troll porn sounds quite creepy

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Looky looky! The troll's post has gone to seven pages! He probably has an erection.

Easy Tiger before ya shoot it all over your lap....and at lease I know what to with my erection...Let me know when you hit the 200 Club !!!...I have posted very little on any site...I am surprised that people are all over the map with a very obvious question. I know it is irrelevant...They are both great but the fact is without Lennon none of them make it over the pond....

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

That is hysterical...you really ought to go into comedy

I like about 20 on your list more than Lennon, and I could add a few.

Like who Davey Jones of the Monkees

Ah, so you're a Monkees fan.

Oh yeah saw them live when Hendrix opened for them...Did you know Hendrix opened for them ???

Yes, I do know that. Saw Hendrix at the Singer Bowl in Queens NY '68
Chambers Bros opened, with Big Brother & the Holding Company added as special guest.
Great show. Saw the Who open for the Doors same venue, same summer. Also a great show.

Yeah they sound alright but nothing like Willie Dixon & Muddy Waters or the Monkees !!!

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My thoughts are I never liked the Beatles.

It looks like you are having a tough time answering the question ?????

Didn't my response answer the question. Obviously if I don't like the Beatles, I would think Jagger is a better singer.

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I am not sure why you think its only ok to say what music you like? I have never understood people like that.

Would you please tell me when did I say anything like that? Please quote the sentence where I said it. Or please don't put words in my mouth.

Your joking right. You just posted this.So like I said for you its ok if someone says they like music and says music is great but they should not say what music they hate or dislike.


Now are you going to proceed and try to deny the obvious some more?



3. And even if somebody doesn't like some music - let's say The Beatles - why do those peole always have the urge to inform everyone that Lennon (or anyone else) was crap. I think that forcing subjective personal opinions to other people as given facts can be quite dangerous. To be honest, I really hate THAT.

If according to you a statement "I don't like Beatles" is equal to "Lennon is crap," then you are right. I personally think those two sentences mean two different things.

What I was trying to say (I think quite clearly) with the sentence you quoted was, that a personal opinion is one thing, but to present it as a given fact is not right. It is all right not to like something and it is all right to say it. What is not right is to force to others that if I don't like something, it means it is bad and anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid. Which is exactly what a lot of people do here. To put it even more simply - I humbly think that "I don't like this" doesn't mean "This is bad." But I am probably wrong, those two things mean probably the same thing. To a lot of people anyway. Just like "not to like" doesn't mean "hate" to me. But why do I even try?

I'm a huge Monkees fan, and let me tell you, Micky Dolenz had/has a great voice...and he didn't even set out to be a singer. If you don't think he has a great singing voice then I'm pretty sure you've got rocks in your head.

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

Here is actually some very good rock-singers namely Elvis, Jagger, Fogerty, McCartney, Rod, Daltrey and Gary Brooker, but the rest...

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

OK I'll bite, who are they!

1. Mick Jagger
2. Chuck Berry
3. Paul Rodgers
4. Brian Howe
5. Paul Stanley
6. Gene Simmons
7. Charlie Starr
8. Ronnie Van Zant
9. Ian Gillan
10. Steven Tyler
11. Gary Brooker
12. Graham Bonnet
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Rod Stewart
16. John Brim
17. Eric Clapton
18. Zac Brown
19. George Thorogood
20. Paul McCartney
21. Robert Hart
22. David Lee Roth
23. Jerry Lee Lewis
24. James Labrie
25. Elvis Presley
26. David Coverdale
27. John Fogerty
28. David Mustaine
29. Ronnie James Dio
30. Doug Gray

That list took me about 5 minutes to do, all I had to was to open one of my youtube playlists...

I don't want to comment on how I feel about the arraignment of your list, I can tell you put a lot of time and effort into it and I commend you.

I just wanted to say I love your nod to Jerry at number thirteen.

If I composed a top 30 I would add; Frank Ocean, Randy California, Taylor Goldsmith and a few others in there. Cheers on your list though!

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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

Well all right, that makes perfect sense. After all this is a web site
where we're supposed to idolize our boys totally out of proportion.
I'll play and let's call Keith the second best voice in the business.

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I don't want to comment on how I feel about the arraignment of your list, I can tell you put a lot of time and effort into it and I commend you.

I just wanted to say I love your nod to Jerry at number thirteen.

If I composed a top 30 I would add; Frank Ocean, Randy California, Taylor Goldsmith and a few others in there. Cheers on your list though!

Ok thank you. But this list not is in any kind of way my top 30 rock n roll singers, and the singers are not in order of greatness either. This is just the first 30 singers I could think of which I like better than John Lennon. 15 names on my list could probably been replaced with better singers.



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I could with ease think of 30 better rock 'n roll singers than John Lennon, but I could think of none better than Jagger.

Well all right, that makes perfect sense. After all this is a web site
where we're supposed to idolize our boys totally out of proportion.
I'll play and let's call Keith the second best voice in the business.

Yes second to John Lennon...I do Agree !!!

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My thoughts are I never liked the Beatles.

It looks like you are having a tough time answering the question ?????

Didn't my response answer the question. Obviously if I don't like the Beatles, I would think Jagger is a better singer.

Actually, no the answer is not clear or direct, it is the same as @#$%& someone that you really don't like....Has this ever happened to you ???

Ultimately it doesn't matter.

Mick sells it, better than anyone else, and that's why we buy.

If he'd just stood still on stage like Bill Wyman, expressionless and sang the same songs for the last 50 years, well, I don't think we'd even have IORR.