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It's just venting my friend...stemming from disappointment. No attempt at being noble and no one is begrudging you a good time. I hope you have a blast...and good times can be had at any concert by any band...Quote
kahoosier
I totally understand where the people come from when they say they do not want to see a show without MT. I get why people still looking for socially relevent art are disappointed in the continued touring of this particular performing musical entity.
Thankfully I disagree with them , and highly doubt, despite thier apocalyptic view, that their abscence will even be noticed this summer. No one has added anything new to the Beethoven cataloque for a long long time, so I guess this makes the next performance of his 9th by a bunch of sitting well dressed nameless orchestra memebers just another money grabbing event we should all avoid.
Yes they will make a boatload of money, but if any of you think that any amount of money could get either Mick or Keith to do something they don't enjoy , you have missed the boat. They are having a good time, most of us are having a good time, too bad you guys can't. Hey but at least you can enjoy your noble rhetoric.
IT'S ONLY ROCK AND ROLL
and I like it.
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Nikkeiwell, this ersatz essentially constitutes half of that career. bit late to complain.Quote
Chacal
Good luck on their last round of fleecing the tourists with this Ersatz.
What a lamentable way to cap a 50 + year career in music.
A truly sad state of affairs.
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stonehearted
I posted somewhere months back that so long as the Stones were doing their 50 & Counting celebrations, Mick Taylor would be invited.
It is obvious that the time has come when the 50th celebrations are over and they are moving on. Because they seem to be on a perpetual burst of mini-tours, it is hard to tell when the overall theme or approach changes.
So if they have a deluxe reissue of Sticky Fingers to tour behind, then this signals the change. They're back in their U.S. market again after just 2 years--a thing previously unheard of since the mid-1960s. So, obviously, they can't trot out the same anniversary tour concept with the same special guest(s) in the same arenas, and certainly not at the same prices.
The 50 & Counting global trek was a look at their history in general, spanning 50 years plus, so they invited former members Taylor and Wyman to help celebrate that. But with this tour, which is obviously not a continuation of 50 & Counting, it is a celebration of a particular point in their history, not their history in general.
If Bill Wyman had agreed to tour the world with them from 2012 to 2014 to celebrate 50 years, he would have gotten the same message from the same lawyer saying that he would not be invited in 2015.
You can't have former members as special guests forever, can you? That was never in the cards.
No insider info here, just good common sense.
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stonehearted
I posted somewhere months back that so long as the Stones were doing their 50 & Counting celebrations, Mick Taylor would be invited.
It is obvious that the time has come when the 50th celebrations are over and they are moving on. Because they seem to be on a perpetual burst of mini-tours, it is hard to tell when the overall theme or approach changes.
So if they have a deluxe reissue of Sticky Fingers to tour behind, then this signals the change. They're back in their U.S. market again after just 2 years--a thing previously unheard of since the mid-1960s. So, obviously, they can't trot out the same anniversary tour concept with the same special guest(s) in the same arenas, and certainly not at the same prices.
The 50 & Counting global trek was a look at their history in general, spanning 50 years plus, so they invited former members Taylor and Wyman to help celebrate that. But with this tour, which is obviously not a continuation of 50 & Counting, it is a celebration of a particular point in their history, not their history in general.
If Bill Wyman had agreed to tour the world with them from 2012 to 2014 to celebrate 50 years, he would have gotten the same message from the same lawyer saying that he would not be invited in 2015.
You can't have former members as special guests forever, can you? That was never in the cards.
No insider info here, just good common sense.
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wellalright
“We are excited to be back in North America playing stadiums this summer! We are looking forward to being back on stage and playing your favorite songs.” – Mick Jagger
“We love being out on the road and it is great to come back to North America! I can’t wait to get back on the stage!” – Keith Richards
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THIS is what it has come to? Two old PR puppets. God this is depressing.
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ronkeith72
If they perform Sticky Fingers in its entirety without addressing the fact that they're not inviting Mick Taylor its a freaking joke. They're trying to get over on us because all the fans in general will presume MT will be there in an expanded role. It's ludicrous for them to perform Sticky Fingers without him and its deceptive advertising if they don't specifically address the MT issue...
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DandelionPowderman
How is it deceptive advertising if a band chooses to play an album without special guests?
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DandelionPowderman
How is it deceptive advertising if a band chooses to play an album without special guests?
What we will get if we are lucky is a Sticky Fingers bloc of 3-4 tunes with Miss You being eliminated as a hardy perennial. Miss You will be out out out!
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wellalright
“We are excited to be back in North America playing stadiums this summer! We are looking forward to being back on stage and playing your favorite songs.” – Mick Jagger
“We love being out on the road and it is great to come back to North America! I can’t wait to get back on the stage!” – Keith Richards
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THIS is what it has come to? Two old PR puppets. God this is depressing.
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DandelionPowderman
How is it deceptive advertising if a band chooses to play an album without special guests?
What we will get if we are lucky is a Sticky Fingers bloc of 3-4 tunes with Miss You being eliminated as a hardy perennial. Miss You will be out out out!
My guess is that you'll get nothing from SF (maybe BS, B and WH) on the stadium shows. The club shows, however, may be different (if they happen...).
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Woz
I suspect all the shows will feature CYHMK, Sway, Bitch, Brown Sugar, Dead Flowers and Wild Horses. Why not?
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Woz
I suspect all the shows will feature CYHMK, Sway, Bitch, Brown Sugar, Dead Flowers and Wild Horses. Why not?
Brown Sugar is a lock at every show. Bitch, Dead Flowers, and Wild Horses are likely, but may be rotated.
I wouldn't count on CYHMK or Sway. CYHMK was very good at the 2012-2013 arena shows but the casual fans who will be the bulk of attendees at these shows don't know it. And the one time the Stones have tried to play Sway in recent years, they pretty much butchered it.
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Woz
I suspect all the shows will feature CYHMK, Sway, Bitch, Brown Sugar, Dead Flowers and Wild Horses. Why not?
Brown Sugar is a lock at every show. Bitch, Dead Flowers, and Wild Horses are likely, but may be rotated.
I wouldn't count on CYHMK or Sway. CYHMK was very good at the 2012-2013 arena shows but the casual fans who will be the bulk of attendees at these shows don't know it. And the one time the Stones have tried to play Sway in recent years, they pretty much butchered it.
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brianfly3
"Oh..pardon me.. I was looking for the fan site..
Carry on."
Depressing?
Don't go, don't buy it. It's simple.
Myself, along with thousands and thousands of others are thrilled today...and can't wait to buy Sticky Fingers....again.
The problem isn't Mick and Keith..have a look in the mirror.
PS- Mick Taylor is not in the band. It was a thrill and a pleasure to see him last few times but the show must go on.
fan = someone who agrees with you on everything.
bitcher and whiner = someone who disagrees with you on anything.
I get it. Carry on.
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Woz
I suspect all the shows will feature CYHMK, Sway, Bitch, Brown Sugar, Dead Flowers and Wild Horses. Why not?
Brown Sugar is a lock at every show. Bitch, Dead Flowers, and Wild Horses are likely, but may be rotated.
I wouldn't count on CYHMK or Sway. CYHMK was very good at the 2012-2013 arena shows but the casual fans who will be the bulk of attendees at these shows don't know it. And the one time the Stones have tried to play Sway in recent years, they pretty much butchered it.
CYHMK was only played in 2013, including a fabulous version at Glastonbury where the fact that probably few people knew it (the festival was full before the Stones were added to the lineup) didn't prevent it from being one of the highlights of the show. Obviously with Ronnie clutching to dear life to hack his way through the solo it can't work so well...
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Woz
Ridiculous....Ronnie nailed the solo consistently in 2002/2003 when he was out of his gourd on coke and booze. And it was played twice in 2013, in LA and Glastonbury with MT playing the solo.
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wellalright
“We are excited to be back in North America playing stadiums this summer! We are looking forward to being back on stage and playing your favorite songs.” – Mick Jagger
“We love being out on the road and it is great to come back to North America! I can’t wait to get back on the stage!” – Keith Richards
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THIS is what it has come to? Two old PR puppets. God this is depressing.
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ronkeith72
If they perform Sticky Fingers in its entirety without addressing the fact that they're not inviting Mick Taylor its a freaking joke. They're trying to get over on us because all the fans in general will presume MT will be there in an expanded role. It's ludicrous for them to perform Sticky Fingers without him and its deceptive advertising if they don't specifically address the MT issue...