It is not all that bad... just a lesson learned.

The word is WAIT!!!!
Unless you are grabbing lucky dip tickets or you
are able to snag some crazy good seats for a great
price somehow, like face for 10th row center, or some
pit tickets (if they have a pit) then there is no reason to
buy (average medicore) tickets when they go onsale at the start.


Actually it was said a lot... and hopefully our friends living in
South America will heed this advice when their shows are announced
in August and then tickets go on sale for their September-November shows.**

There are plenty of people who don't read here who will buy the seats...
and get the thing running, make the promoters not scared... and then later
when price start to slide back, you can grab you tickets and save some beer money.


**And no I am not one of these drama loving "insiders", I am
just a dude who has watched how The Stones predictably operate
for a long long time... and I doubt they built 2 huge MASSIVE STADIUM
sized stages for only 15 shows shows in the U.S. Mister Mick will
amoritze the cost of the stages over many many more shows
than just the 15 U.S. shows announced so far.

Maybe fans have already discussed this, but its pretty disappointing that only 2 shows on this tour have Sold Out yet (face value sellout), Milwaukee and San Diego. You can still get face value seats for all the other shows. I just checked the links on the Stones ticket page. And, as you've mentioned, those face value prices are dropping.

Why is this? Is it just ticket prices, or has this band out-lived its fans interest in attending these expensive, big production shows?

Most bands, if they last this long, are doing Casino tours, or maybe arena's, like the Eagles. But almost nobody can pull off stadiums, or wants to do stadiums at this advanced age.

While they can pull this off in Europe, Asia, and South America, where its more of a once-in-a-lifetime spectacle, that gets the whole town to show up.
that's not the case in the US, where this is definitely their last stadium tour.

Also note that neither AEG or The Stones, have officially announced any sell-outs on this tour yet. As they realize 1000's of tickets are still available for each show on the secondary market.

Hey people,
I'm living temporarily here in San Diego -- Ive got regular folks tix for May 24 but my whole life I have wanted to see a Stones play a pre tour Club gig, aka Toronto etc. What are the odds the boys play a small joint around San Diego and how does one find out about these things--this feels like my one shot!

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Maybe fans have already discussed this, but its pretty disappointing that only 2 shows on this tour have Sold Out yet (face value sellout), Milwaukee and San Diego. You can still get face value seats for all the other shows. I just checked the links on the Stones ticket page. And, as you've mentioned, those face value prices are dropping.

Why is this? Is it just ticket prices, or has this band out-lived its fans interest in attending these expensive, big production shows?

IMMHO, it is entirely ticket prices. Entirely. Most people I know believe $376 for two tickets to a concert is crazy. $100, not so bad but you'd expect to not be in the nosebleeds for that price. They have way too many seats priced at $350 for these shows. The arena shows in 12/13 here in the US were way overpriced, but everyone knew Taylor would be there so many justified it as the last go round. Now we have stadiums with lower pricing, but honestly not low enough. I have heard lots of talk about priorities etc, but at over $700 for two good seats, my wife is immediately thinking 'we can't buy a new dishwasher but you can justify going to a single concert?' She's right. It is way too much money for two hours of hearing the same songs again.

Hopefully these shows will have some genuine surprises to justify the prices. If it is the same show again, which most are betting, then this will likely mark the last time I will ever pay for premium seats. Instead I'll just plan to go to any show the day of, buy seats at the box office or in the parking lot. Dead serious. I am a hardcore fan, listen to bootlegs every day, have gone to every show in my region since 97. These prices are too high.

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Hey people,
I'm living temporarily here in San Diego -- Ive got regular folks tix for May 24 but my whole life I have wanted to see a Stones play a pre tour Club gig, aka Toronto etc. What are the odds the boys play a small joint around San Diego and how does one find out about these things--this feels like my one shot!

My best guess is the tune-up gig will be in LA. They will be rehearsing in LA in early May, they know that town and its clubs really well. They are not doing a regular show there this tour, so they owe it to those fans to do something. It may be a club gig or a theater show, that they could announce within 24 hours, and sell it out quickly. Probably May 20-22 in LA.

<<These prices are too high>>

Indeed, you only need to look at Paris last year for proof. Top=priced regular tickets putting you at the front of the stage were 110 euros (about $115). Apart from festivals, it was the biggest venue on that European leg but the hardest ticket. I couldn't believe it sold out as quickly as it did.

A Stones show versus a dishwasher? That got me laughing



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Maybe fans have already discussed this, but its pretty disappointing that only 2 shows on this tour have Sold Out yet (face value sellout), Milwaukee and San Diego. You can still get face value seats for all the other shows. I just checked the links on the Stones ticket page. And, as you've mentioned, those face value prices are dropping.

Why is this? Is it just ticket prices, or has this band out-lived its fans interest in attending these expensive, big production shows?

IMMHO, it is entirely ticket prices. Entirely. Most people I know believe $376 for two tickets to a concert is crazy. $100, not so bad but you'd expect to not be in the nosebleeds for that price. They have way too many seats priced at $350 for these shows. The arena shows in 12/13 here in the US were way overpriced, but everyone knew Taylor would be there so many justified it as the last go round. Now we have stadiums with lower pricing, but honestly not low enough. I have heard lots of talk about priorities etc, but at over $700 for two good seats, my wife is immediately thinking 'we can't buy a new dishwasher but you can justify going to a single concert?' She's right. It is way too much money for two hours of hearing the same songs again.

Hopefully these shows will have some genuine surprises to justify the prices. If it is the same show again, which most are betting, then this will likely mark the last time I will ever pay for premium seats. Instead I'll just plan to go to any show the day of, buy seats at the box office or in the parking lot. Dead serious. I am a hardcore fan, listen to bootlegs every day, have gone to every show in my region since 97. These prices are too high.

I agree these prices are too high, and were on the last tour as well, but I also think their fan base (mostly guys from 50 - 70) just isn't up for it anymore. A small venue, they could get into, but stadiums are for kids or a family crowd.

I also think you are right in that they're not going to build this huge production, with a huge traveling crew, for just 15 shows. I bet they had more US shows lined up, if this sold out fast, but it hasn't. So they'll just take August off, and hit South America in the Fall.

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Maybe fans have already discussed this, but its pretty disappointing that only 2 shows on this tour have Sold Out yet (face value sellout), Milwaukee and San Diego. You can still get face value seats for all the other shows. I just checked the links on the Stones ticket page. And, as you've mentioned, those face value prices are dropping.

Why is this? Is it just ticket prices, or has this band out-lived its fans interest in attending these expensive, big production shows?

IMMHO, it is entirely ticket prices. Entirely. Most people I know believe $376 for two tickets to a concert is crazy. $100, not so bad but you'd expect to not be in the nosebleeds for that price. They have way too many seats priced at $350 for these shows. The arena shows in 12/13 here in the US were way overpriced, but everyone knew Taylor would be there so many justified it as the last go round. Now we have stadiums with lower pricing, but honestly not low enough. I have heard lots of talk about priorities etc, but at over $700 for two good seats, my wife is immediately thinking 'we can't buy a new dishwasher but you can justify going to a single concert?' She's right. It is way too much money for two hours of hearing the same songs again.

Hopefully these shows will have some genuine surprises to justify the prices. If it is the same show again, which most are betting, then this will likely mark the last time I will ever pay for premium seats. Instead I'll just plan to go to any show the day of, buy seats at the box office or in the parking lot. Dead serious. I am a hardcore fan, listen to bootlegs every day, have gone to every show in my region since 97. These prices are too high.

I agree these prices are too high, and were on the last tour as well, but I also think their fan base (mostly guys from 50 - 70) just isn't up for it anymore. A small venue, they could get into, but stadiums are for kids or a family crowd.

I also think you are right in that they're not going to build this huge production, with a huge traveling crew, for just 15 shows. I bet they had more US shows lined up, if this sold out fast, but it hasn't. So they'll just take August off, and hit South America in the Fall.

That's closer to the truth than you think. I'm one of them and so are most of my fellow Stones fans. I can tell you anecdotally that the tipping point is the presence or absence of MT in the show (and we all like Ronnie and We all love the Stones!). But if I knew that MT was in, I wouldn't think twice about attending shows. I know it's just dumb nostalgia, revisiting 'glory days' and all that, saying you saw MT with the Stones again....but...it's a fact. There are 50-70 years olds all over the internet saying the same thing...youtube, facebook, news comments....iorr...
I think the band should have known that...heck, the promoters should have known. Or maybe there's just not enough of us to make a difference. I suspect there is, however.

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Maybe fans have already discussed this, but its pretty disappointing that only 2 shows on this tour have Sold Out yet (face value sellout), Milwaukee and San Diego. You can still get face value seats for all the other shows. I just checked the links on the Stones ticket page. And, as you've mentioned, those face value prices are dropping.

Why is this? Is it just ticket prices, or has this band out-lived its fans interest in attending these expensive, big production shows?

IMMHO, it is entirely ticket prices. Entirely. Most people I know believe $376 for two tickets to a concert is crazy. $100, not so bad but you'd expect to not be in the nosebleeds for that price. They have way too many seats priced at $350 for these shows. The arena shows in 12/13 here in the US were way overpriced, but everyone knew Taylor would be there so many justified it as the last go round. Now we have stadiums with lower pricing, but honestly not low enough. I have heard lots of talk about priorities etc, but at over $700 for two good seats, my wife is immediately thinking 'we can't buy a new dishwasher but you can justify going to a single concert?' She's right. It is way too much money for two hours of hearing the same songs again.

Hopefully these shows will have some genuine surprises to justify the prices. If it is the same show again, which most are betting, then this will likely mark the last time I will ever pay for premium seats. Instead I'll just plan to go to any show the day of, buy seats at the box office or in the parking lot. Dead serious. I am a hardcore fan, listen to bootlegs every day, have gone to every show in my region since 97. These prices are too high.

I agree these prices are too high, and were on the last tour as well, but I also think their fan base (mostly guys from 50 - 70) just isn't up for it anymore. A small venue, they could get into, but stadiums are for kids or a family crowd.

I also think you are right in that they're not going to build this huge production, with a huge traveling crew, for just 15 shows. I bet they had more US shows lined up, if this sold out fast, but it hasn't. So they'll just take August off, and hit South America in the Fall.

Only in the US in 2013 were the crowds so old. I attended shows in Europe in 2014 and in Tokyo and Auckland (all stadium shows) and crowds were much, much younger. In Paris and Stockholm I noticed many young (30's - 40's) couples, some with young children, groups of guys in their 20's. Paris was sold out (compared to 2007 when you could see large blocks of open seats. Tokyo Dome was 3 shows, 150,000 people, and the Dome was full compared to 2006, when they played 2 shows and could not sell out. Crowds Tokyo and New Zealand weren't as young as in Europe, but much, much younger than in the US.

I think it is primarily related to price.

I'm not sure they have any extra shows scheduled - When sold out three Dome shows here, people were "certain" that additional shows would be announced since there was like a five or six day gap between the first and second shows. They never announced another show, and the Stones and their families (and the entire stage crew) just hung around, touring Tokyo, going out to eat, etc. Most bands can't afford to hang out in a Japan hotel for days, but I guess the Stones can.

Maybe that means some good opening acts being lined up to spur on ticket sales??

A Great Opening Band would be helpful. I don't need MT. No one likes stadiums for music. Only 2 venues are covered for rain.

Better promotion to describe theme of show, if any. Their current commercials advertise them playing your favorite hits. And yes, older fans are getting tired of this. 14 on Fire as a name sucked (and they used it for 3 legs). Zipcode is worst!

The prices are crazy for cow towns. First 5 rows $1800. Then $1250, 950, 750, 400. Parking up to $75!! In Pittsburgh, 24th row, middle section is $950. The 25th row is $400!

No Live press conference. No 'new' music. No DENVER!!! IS THAT INSANE???

A COMPLETE FAILURE TURNING EVERYONE OFF. WHAT A WAY TO GO OUT OF THE USA...

WHAT REALLY GETS ME UPSET IS THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT MORE DRIVEABLE FOR BETTER SUMMER CARAVANS



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Maybe fans have already discussed this, but its pretty disappointing that only 2 shows on this tour have Sold Out yet (face value sellout), Milwaukee and San Diego. You can still get face value seats for all the other shows. I just checked the links on the Stones ticket page. And, as you've mentioned, those face value prices are dropping.

Why is this? Is it just ticket prices, or has this band out-lived its fans interest in attending these expensive, big production shows?

IMMHO, it is entirely ticket prices. Entirely. Most people I know believe $376 for two tickets to a concert is crazy. $100, not so bad but you'd expect to not be in the nosebleeds for that price. They have way too many seats priced at $350 for these shows. The arena shows in 12/13 here in the US were way overpriced, but everyone knew Taylor would be there so many justified it as the last go round. Now we have stadiums with lower pricing, but honestly not low enough. I have heard lots of talk about priorities etc, but at over $700 for two good seats, my wife is immediately thinking 'we can't buy a new dishwasher but you can justify going to a single concert?' She's right. It is way too much money for two hours of hearing the same songs again.

Hopefully these shows will have some genuine surprises to justify the prices. If it is the same show again, which most are betting, then this will likely mark the last time I will ever pay for premium seats. Instead I'll just plan to go to any show the day of, buy seats at the box office or in the parking lot. Dead serious. I am a hardcore fan, listen to bootlegs every day, have gone to every show in my region since 97. These prices are too high.

This tour is less intriguing without MT and no new material. It will be nice to hear Moonlight Mile but it will essentially be the same format as the previous tour in more cavernous venues.

I don't know if it's the Stones - it's probably the promoters, but I agree that the ticket prices and the massive venues on this tour are nothing less than baffling.

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A Great Opening Band would be helpful. I don't need MT. No one likes stadiums for music. Only 2 venues are covered for rain.

Better promotion to describe theme of show, if any. Their current commercials advertise them playing your favorite hits. And yes, older fans are getting tired of this. 14 on Fire as a name sucked (and they used it for 3 legs). Zipcode is worst!

The prices are crazy for cow towns. First 5 rows $1800. Then $1250, 950, 750, 400. Parking up to $75!! In Pittsburgh, 24th row, middle section is $950. The 25th row is $400!

No Live press conference. No 'new' music. No DENVER!!! IS THAT INSANE???

A COMPLETE FAILURE TURNING EVERYONE OFF. WHAT A WAY TO GO OUT OF THE USA...

WHAT REALLY GETS ME UPSET IS THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT MORE DRIVEABLE FOR BETTER SUMMER CARAVANS

SPOT ON.

I plan on attending, and will have a good time, but this tour is simply the "we want to keep playing" tour. There is no theme, no reason, nothing, so far. If they decide to turn it into 'fans vote the whole setlist to each show' tour, or 'Chuck Berry can't play his songs currently, so I guess we'll play the Great 28' tour, then yes, I would find that interesting.

For the record- the complainers speak only for themselves and should not say EVERYONE!!! IN ALL CAPS BOLD RED!!! COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME!!!! IN ALL CAPS BOLD ALL THE TIME!!!!


I am not turned off at all. I am delighted The Rolling Stones are coming back and playing places they missed on the last tour and they are making entrance affordable with some lower priced tickets. If some people can not afford to pay the market rates for better tickets that is not the Stones problem.

I also dont blame them for not bothering to put out a new album. Last time they did a new album, which I happened to liked it a lot, but the cool trendy thing among the constant complainers, seemimgly unhappy with their life general, and directing that unhappiness towards the Stones, was to complain that it sucked and wasnt a carbon copy or as as good as the "top 4", the Jimmy produced albums etc etc etc blah balh blah... so why should they bother with a new album? Especially considering album sales are basically dead and a lot of people will only bitch and complain about it no matter how good it is.


THANKS FOR COMING BACK ROLLING STONES,
I AM DELIGHTED!!! AND READY TO SEE SOME LIVE STONES SHOWS!!!



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My best guess is the tune-up gig will be in LA. They will be rehearsing in LA in early May, they know that town and its clubs really well. They are not doing a regular show there this tour, so they owe it to those fans to do something.

They what?

Good point.

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My best guess is the tune-up gig will be in LA. They will be rehearsing in LA in early May, they know that town and its clubs really well. They are not doing a regular show there this tour, so they owe it to those fans to do something.

They what?

They what? indeed.


I scratch my head reading around here sometimes.

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For the record- the complainers speak only for themselves and should not say EVERYONE!!! IN ALL CAPS BOLD RED!!! COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME!!!! IN ALL CAPS BOLD ALL THE TIME!!!!


I am not turned off at all. I am delighted The Rolling Stones are coming back and playing places they missed on the last tour and they are making entrance affordable with some lower priced tickets. If some people can not afford to pay the market rates for better tickets that is not the Stones problem.

I also dont blame them for not bothering to put out a new album. Last time they did a new album, which I happened to liked it a lot, but the cool trendy thing among the constant complainers, seemimgly unhappy with their life general, and directing that unhappiness towards the Stones, was to complain that it sucked and wasnt a carbon copy or as as good as the "top 4", the Jimmy produced albums etc etc etc blah balh blah... so why should they bother with a new album? Especially considering album sales are basically dead and a lot of people will only bitch and complain about it no matter how good it is.


THANKS FOR COMING BACK ROLLING STONES,
I AM DELIGHTED!!! AND READY TO SEE SOME LIVE STONES SHOWS!!!

I have been to over 200 stones shows on 5 continents SO I DO GET TO 'COMPLAIN', if that's what you call it.

you sound like you don't leave the usa much...

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A Great Opening Band would be helpful. I don't need MT. No one likes stadiums for music. Only 2 venues are covered for rain.

Better promotion to describe theme of show, if any. Their current commercials advertise them playing your favorite hits. And yes, older fans are getting tired of this. 14 on Fire as a name sucked (and they used it for 3 legs). Zipcode is worst!

The prices are crazy for cow towns. First 5 rows $1800. Then $1250, 950, 750, 400. Parking up to $75!! In Pittsburgh, 24th row, middle section is $950. The 25th row is $400!

No Live press conference. No 'new' music. No DENVER!!! IS THAT INSANE???

A COMPLETE FAILURE TURNING EVERYONE OFF. WHAT A WAY TO GO OUT OF THE USA...

WHAT REALLY GETS ME UPSET IS THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT MORE DRIVEABLE FOR BETTER SUMMER CARAVANS

Don't try to speak for everyone. Just because the band didn't cater to all your personal desires does not make the tour a failure. 99.9% of Stones fans (including myself) couldn't care less about the name of the tour or the lack of a live press conference. Just enjoy the fact that the greatest rock 'n roll band in the world is about to tour the USA. This could be the last time we're ever going to be able to say that.

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A Great Opening Band would be helpful. I don't need MT. No one likes stadiums for music. Only 2 venues are covered for rain.

Better promotion to describe theme of show, if any. Their current commercials advertise them playing your favorite hits. And yes, older fans are getting tired of this. 14 on Fire as a name sucked (and they used it for 3 legs). Zipcode is worst!

The prices are crazy for cow towns. First 5 rows $1800. Then $1250, 950, 750, 400. Parking up to $75!! In Pittsburgh, 24th row, middle section is $950. The 25th row is $400!

No Live press conference. No 'new' music. No DENVER!!! IS THAT INSANE???

A COMPLETE FAILURE TURNING EVERYONE OFF. WHAT A WAY TO GO OUT OF THE USA...

WHAT REALLY GETS ME UPSET IS THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT MORE DRIVEABLE FOR BETTER SUMMER CARAVANS

Don't try to speak for everyone. Just because the band didn't cater to all your personal desires does not make the tour a failure. 99.9% of Stones fans (including myself) couldn't care less about the name of the tour or the lack of a live press conference. Just enjoy the fact that the greatest rock 'n roll band in the world is about to tour the USA. This could be the last time we're ever going to be able to say that.

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I have been to over 200 stones shows on 5 continents SO I DO GET TO 'COMPLAIN', if that's what you call it.

you sound like you don't leave the usa much...

complain all you want, buit dont DREAM!!! you speak for everyone,
and making assumptions about people you never met makes you look stupid.

The above is why the internet brings out the wrong people and makes others go away. If a person talks/chats about the interest/subject or band/country or whatever, that is NOT PERSONAL.

When you attack someone personally because you don't agree with that person is not how you have a discussion.

The tour is a failure as tours go. That's business. I will be attending many of these shows with VIP invitations and I will have FUN, but when I speak about the logistics, I think about everyone. I'm not part of that 'me' generation stuff.

There are a lot of people who don't care about many things but I do.

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The above is why the internet brings out the wrong people and makes others go away. If a person talks/chats about the interest/subject or band/country or whatever, that is NOT PERSONAL.

When you attack someone personally because you don't agree with that person is not how you have a discussion.

The tour is a failure as tours go. That's business. I will be attending many of these shows with VIP invitations and I will have FUN, but when I speak about the logistics, I think about everyone. I'm not part of that 'me' generation stuff.

There are a lot of people who don't care about many things but I do.

Uhm, are you talking about yourself?
Getting personal with me? And then calling yourself out for that?

And then you are complaining up a storm saying this is a failure tour, but then you say will be at many shows, VIP no less?

Anyway, I am happy about how it all going, pleased with the tour and where they will be playing and I thought I should say that to help offset the complaining.

A press 'conference' explains the tour and creates the hype needed to fill large stadiums in secondary markets at unheard of prices.

And what do you know? Thousands of available tickets, many already dropping from original prices (and if don't think this gets FANS angry, then you are really not in touch with 'Joe')

A tour name does the same thing. And fans can't wait to get merchandise with the new branded tour. And merchandise is a big percentage. 14 on Fire looked like varsity letters which goes along with the sport motif they sold out to years ago so they could appeal to 'Joe'.

None of my fellow world Stones fans said to me "I can't wait to get 'ZipCode' on new merchandise! Hey I got a dime, let's go get some! (for those who remember)

The so called idea of the tour were visiting places where they started out slow. But a Route 66 'type' thing with a driveable route and not expensive zig zags would have brought thousands more to the tour.

Yes, I will enjoy Mick dancing and flying all over the stage and Keith pretending to be playing with his arthritis hands, Ronnie just having fun, Charlie grinning once in awhile. I will get high and drift into my favorite music and pray that there will be enough girls in attendance to look like a rock concert, instead of a bunch of guys taking a day off from watching sports...

And the fact that they favor the legalization of at least marijuana, and the fact that they finally wrote a more politically obvious song in neo-con, they should have supported Denver, Seattle, Portland or even a first in Alaska! They always like firsts! We could have had a "Stadium Bowl" without the need for a fog machine.

The reason so many things are wrong in the world are all the people who settle for anything...

Sorry to say but this ist the first tour I don`t really care about. I´ve seen them last year at the Waldbühne in Berlin, wich was nice and expensive...
I´ve seen them so many times since 82 but for me the thrill is gone, maybe they missed the right time to stop.

They could have made it a cheap ticket. Filled the stadiums and left a legacy for the "Salt Of The Earth"

I really hate hearing the ads that play a little of each song as if their fans needed to be reminded?

There should always be a general admission area. Knowing they wanted high end real estate upfront, the rear half should have been ga. you can't see the band on a level field from that far back. it would be for those who prefer dancing, being center and they add a pulse for all above. it's perfect.

They could have included the new download in the price. They could have added some merchandise. They still can and they should....

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<<These prices are too high>>

Indeed, you only need to look at Paris last year for proof. Top=priced regular tickets putting you at the front of the stage were 110 euros (about $115). Apart from festivals, it was the biggest venue on that European leg but the hardest ticket. I couldn't believe it sold out as quickly as it did.

A Stones show versus a dishwasher? That got me laughing

This last time in Paris they made the front VIP bigger ($160 USD) and they didn't have the bar/refreshment stand right in the center rear of VIP. The only place in the world I have seen that (not festivals or RIO). I was deeply disappointed it was not there this time (and I don't 'drink') besides being bigger (further back, more people) and Both Mick and the audience were disappointed that would could not see the FULL MOON rise over the show (those dam stadium overhangs) especially on a Friday The 13th!!

I learned at a very early age that you don't speak about things you don't know. Today, for marketing anything, people use polls.

That's where I get the pulse. The last ten years I have been asking women if I should color my hair? It has been 50/50 all that time so I went with less work

Same on the stones tour. Everyone I met, spoke to, danced with, smoked with, went to the bathroom with, etc etc and with people from dozens of countries and multiple continents on the most recent touring.

1. 90% said they didn't think much of the tour name, to be polite.

It's not that any single thing matters alone, but when grouped together it is uninspiring as if they finally lost their way, for the creative types who don't depend on beer to make everything better...