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They simply do not give credits (or almost do not).
Everybody in the band from Bill to MT to Ronnie should have known/should know that. You gotta live with it - or leave.

At least Ronnie got some credits early 80'ies.

Nice post PalaceRev2000... I like the memories of being physically alone but still having you writing partner in your head... I gave credit on one of my songs to a vocalist who came nowhere close to the 'writing process'. When questioned by the guitarist about it, I explained that, I didn't write it for him to sing per se, but the entire time I was writing it, I heard his voice singing the melodies and lyrics as I worked through them.

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Mick Taylor on the Rolling Stones, John Mayall, and Playing Guitar


1979


Great read!

How do you read it? There's no link.

I guess this is the one it refers to:

Jas Obrecht

Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away

His gig with Ben Waters is coming up soon, isn't it?

Is it really Taylor playing the main acoustic guitar on Angie? I always thought it was Keith.

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Is it really Taylor playing the main acoustic guitar on Angie? I always thought it was Keith.

No, Taylor plays the 12 string a bit more down in the mix.

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Mick Taylor on the Rolling Stones, John Mayall, and Playing Guitar


1979


Great read!

Some how this got moved. Mot sure what happened to the link:

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His gig with Ben Waters is coming up soon, isn't it?

Today ;

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His gig with Ben Waters is coming up soon, isn't it?

Today ;

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Tonight! Any reviews!

Where was Bill ?

~~ Bill Wyman & Mick Taylor with The Ben Waters Band, Natalie Williams Soul Family ft Sharlene Hector, Jose Feliciano, Eliane Correa, and Shakatak have been announced for the new PizzaExpress Live Stage. ~~

I was interested to know if there are examples of Mick Taylor using modes in his solos or more exotic scales such as Harmonic and Melodic Minor? From the studio recordings he seems to stick to blues scales and natural minor but I wondered if there are any live shows that feature the more uncommon scales/modes mentioned above?



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I was interested to know if there are examples of Mick Taylor using modes in his solos or more exotic scales such as Harmonic and Melodic Minor? From the studio recordings he seems to stick to blues scales and natural minor but I wondered if there are any live shows that feature the more uncommon scales/modes mentioned above?

I'm Free 1969
Street Fighting Man 1973

Would not it be nice, if he released a new album, did some gigs on his own, or with Ronnie.

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I was interested to know if there are examples of Mick Taylor using modes in his solos or more exotic scales such as Harmonic and Melodic Minor? From the studio recordings he seems to stick to blues scales and natural minor but I wondered if there are any live shows that feature the more uncommon scales/modes mentioned above?

If my memory serves, he does some nice Allman Brothers-type playing on California from the John Mayall 70th birthday live album.

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I was interested to know if there are examples of Mick Taylor using modes in his solos or more exotic scales such as Harmonic and Melodic Minor? From the studio recordings he seems to stick to blues scales and natural minor but I wondered if there are any live shows that feature the more uncommon scales/modes mentioned above?

I'm Free 1969
Street Fighting Man 1973

The only "exotic" scale played by Taylor can be heard on a song like "Spanish", the phrygian mode. He tended to play some minor pentonics rooted on the 2nd, 3th 5th and (ma)j7th of a major chord, with the Stones and more often with Jack Bruce and his 1979 solo record. Taylor never ever used a Melodic minor or Harmonic minor, certainly not in the classical/traditional context. I wish he would have done it

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I was interested to know if there are examples of Mick Taylor using modes in his solos or more exotic scales such as Harmonic and Melodic Minor? From the studio recordings he seems to stick to blues scales and natural minor but I wondered if there are any live shows that feature the more uncommon scales/modes mentioned above?

I'm Free 1969
Street Fighting Man 1973

The only "exotic" scale played by Taylor can be heard on a song like "Spanish", the phrygian mode. He tended to play some minor pentonics rooted on the 2nd, 3th 5th and (ma)j7th of a major chord, with the Stones and more often with Jack Bruce and his 1979 solo record. Taylor never ever used a Melodic minor or Harmonic minor, certainly not in the classical/traditional context. I wish he would have done it

A pentatonic scale includes: R 2 3 5 and 6 in major and those same notes rooted in the 6th are R b3 4 5 and b7 in the minor (Aeolian) mode. You probably know that, I'm just wondering what he was doing playing a pentatonic based off a major 7th, wouldn't that be Locrian mode? Which song does he do that on?

Excuse me if this has been already linked on this huge thread, I couldn't go through almost 200 pages, but it's pretty comprehensive interview/overview about much of his career.


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I'm just wondering what he was doing playing a pentatonic based off a major 7th, wouldn't that be Locrian mode? Which song does he do that on?

A Cmaj7 (example) contains the tone B. So sometimes Taylor would play a Bmin pent over a Cmaj7. This creates a jazzy and nice melodic Cmaj7/9/#11. There are quite a few (live) outtakes performed by Taylor over the years were he does this, and it sounds very catchy. Jeff Beck and Steely Dan etc are even more interesting examples regarding this subject.



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I was interested to know if there are examples of Mick Taylor using modes in his solos or more exotic scales such as Harmonic and Melodic Minor? From the studio recordings he seems to stick to blues scales and natural minor but I wondered if there are any live shows that feature the more uncommon scales/modes mentioned above?

I'm Free 1969
Street Fighting Man 1973

The only "exotic" scale played by Taylor can be heard on a song like "Spanish", the phrygian mode. He tended to play some minor pentonics rooted on the 2nd, 3th 5th and (ma)j7th of a major chord, with the Stones and more often with Jack Bruce and his 1979 solo record. Taylor never ever used a Melodic minor or Harmonic minor, certainly not in the classical/traditional context. I wish he would have done it

For Taylor, the scales he picks a few notes from (that's what he does, really), are indeed "exotic" on the songs I mentioned (even though they're not Melodic minors or Harmonic minor).

He played by ear, not with music theoretical knowledge, I guess..

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He played by ear, not with music theoretical knowledge, I guess..

I think he confirmed just that in an interview somewhere, sometime...

Actually, that's what I do, too. Whenever I thought too much in scales and fret positions, my playing began to sound a bit static for my own taste. That's when I started to rely more on my ears and my intuition.

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He played by ear, not with music theoretical knowledge, I guess..

I think he confirmed just that in an interview somewhere, sometime...

Actually, that's what I do, too. Whenever I thought too much in scales and fret positions, my playing began to sound a bit static for my own taste. That's when I started to rely more on my ears and my intuition.

Same here

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He played by ear, not with music theoretical knowledge, I guess..

I think he confirmed just that in an interview somewhere, sometime...

Actually, that's what I do, too. Whenever I thought too much in scales and fret positions, my playing began to sound a bit static for my own taste. That's when I started to rely more on my ears and my intuition.

Same here

Taylor is a decent piano player for many years already so he will know the basic theoretical rules that are required for the music he's (was) playing.. But he plays by ear (certainly as a guitarist), and doesn't think



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Just got back from the "Exhibitionism" exhibition and enjoyed it a great deal. Even brought a tear to my eye as the stones have done for me over a many year c***s!

However, once again the contribution of the vibrato is undersold to the point of extraordinary ambivalence and makes me think keith might actually have a problem, (lord knows he has a few), with acknowledging the contribution MT made overall. I may be wrong but no sign of any of his guitars, although Jones guitars are there in abundance. Mick Taylor was a massive input to the best years of thier output. Why dont they acknowledge that?

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Just listen to Black And Blue. Wayne Perkins & Harvey Mandel let you forget completely the absence of MT. He was just a guitar player who was lucky to be with the Stones at their artistic peak. His influence or significance is minimal, imo. Brian Jones was very important and unique for their sound and image, MT wasnt. If Harvey Mandel would have been with the Stones in 1969-74 instead of MT the albums they made back then would still be masterpieces and would sound only slightly different. Maybe GHS and IORR would have been better albums in the end.