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We know the answer to that when listening to Heartbreaker live.
"Adjust his style in the future, late 7-tees". Always quote in the right context please.
We don't know the answer because the 1973 versions were the only ones with Taylor, and also the initial question by 'FP' was hypothetical.
Besides, I don't hear any funk in Heartbreaker at all apart from Billy Preston. Nile Rodgers never played with the Stones. I consider him as funky. But please explain
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We know the answer to that when listening to Heartbreaker live.
"Adjust his style in the future, late 7-tees". Always quote in the right context please.
We don't know the answer because the 1973 versions were the only ones with Taylor, and also the initial question by 'FP' was hypothetical.
Besides, I don't hear any funk in Heartbreaker at all apart from Billy Preston. Nile Rodgers never played with the Stones. I consider him as funky. But please explain
Then you should listen again, to the live versions - especially to the part that's not on the album version
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DandelionPowderman
We know the answer to that when listening to Heartbreaker live.
"Adjust his style in the future, late 7-tees". Always quote in the right context please.
We don't know the answer because the 1973 versions were the only ones with Taylor, and also the initial question by 'FP' was hypothetical.
Besides, I don't hear any funk in Heartbreaker at all apart from Billy Preston. Nile Rodgers never played with the Stones. I consider him as funky. But please explain
Then you should listen again, to the live versions - especially to the part that's not on the album version
Wrong emphasis imo. I have no doubt that Taylor as the marvelous guitar player he was could have adjusted to a funkier style, but material like Hot Stuff, Miss You, Emotional Rescue, Dance, Undercover (Of The Night) is just one part of the Stones development after he left - the other direction is the return to or better new focus on a seemingly back-to the-basics rougher, raw energy approach that was regarded as an adjustment to the emerging Punk/New Wave scene back then, embodied in material like When The Whip Comes Down, Respectable, Lies, Shattered, Let Me Go, She's So Cold, Summer Romance, Neighbours and what else (not to speak of the stripped-down sound of their 1978 US tour), that was largely absent in their last two albums with Taylor and all in all was musically simpler while Taylor expressed his boredom with the Stones music and seemed to develop into a musically more complex, jazz-rock, fusion style that could not have been further apart from the Stones new direction back then.
I a nutshell - when Taylor said he was musically bored during his last time with the band, I really wonder how much more bored he could possibly have been recording Some Girls and playing live during the 1978 tour?
Not saying he couldn't play the material, far from it, but would his heart really have been into it? I have my doubts and think that just like Taylor was the right guitar player for this band in 1969 and onwards, Ronnie was the right guy for the direction the band took after Taylor left.
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Two questions.
Did Mick Taylor ever enjoy being a Rolling Stone? He said in Stones in Exile doc that he found it "fun" but without much conviction and every other interview I read he doesn't seem to give much away, although he does seem to regret leaving.
Second question, if he had not left, would he have been kicked out by Mick or Keith at some point, to be replaced by Ron Wood? Keith rarely seems to have a nice word to say about him in 70s interviews but always raves about him now. However it seems Ron and Keith hit it off so well it seems only a matter of time before Ron got the gig?
I guess there are two ways to fit in being a Rolling Stone. Socially and musically. Ron fit both. MT was stronger musically. All in all their OK with Ronnie...
Taylor seemed to be spiraling a bit, but he was still contributing to their sound, especially live. He hadn't really done anything to get kicked out of the group for. We don't know if Taylor could have adjusted his playing to a funkier/disco style that they moved into with Wood. Who knows? Taylor might have been even better at it. He might have adapted quite well to the jazz infused mid to late 70s.
I do think Taylor could have been better at all styles if you listen precise "between the lines". Just more talent. But also incredibly lazy, and mainly interested in blues, unfortunately. A waste of talent.
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Sometimes thinking about how much talent he had and how he really didn't seem to maximise it makes me quite sad. I mean that he played with Dylan, Jack Bruce, John Mayall and The Stones and yet STILL feels like an underachiever is crazy but there it is.
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Can you name me more than 1 or 2 funk tracks on the Stones albums during the Wood era. Does not seem there were too many anyway
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TravelinMan
His bass on Mr D is funky. Criss Cross as well.
I don’t particularly think the guitars on Miss You are funky at all.
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Can you name me more than 1 or 2 funk tracks on the Stones albums during the Wood era. Does not seem there were too many anyway
My grammar was poor.What I meant to say there wasn’t more than one or two per album.So maybe15 percent of the songs they released during the Wood era?And Rock on a Hard Place,Anybody Seen My Baby and Terrifying are not funk.Isn’t Slave funk?Quote
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Can you name me more than 1 or 2 funk tracks on the Stones albums during the Wood era. Does not seem there were too many anyway
Hey Negrita
Hot Stuff
Miss You
Dance
Emotional Rescue
Undercover Of The Night
Too Much Blood
Pretty Beat Up
Winning Ugly
Back To Zero
Terrifying
Sex Drive
Rock And A Hard Place
Suck On The Jugular
Anybody Seen My Baby
Rain Fall Down
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Bard, you forgot "Everything is Turning to Gold" and "Tie You Up"
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PhillyFAN
Just came across this and wanted to share. There are more YT of this jazz album.I wanted to share.with yall.He really os an exceptional guitar player that has gone unsung for years. Enjoy.
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Meryl03
Carla Olson has been on a few podcasts recently and she said about Mick "He basically seems to be not really wanting to be on the road or do anything, y'know real real depressing, but this record is one of the things that changed my life." She also said Mick is close to her heart and like a brother to her.
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Carla Olson has been on a few podcasts recently and she said about Mick "He basically seems to be not really wanting to be on the road or do anything, y'know real real depressing, but this record is one of the things that changed my life." She also said Mick is close to her heart and like a brother to her.
has she said anything else about how he's doing?
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Carla Olson has been on a few podcasts recently and she said about Mick "He basically seems to be not really wanting to be on the road or do anything, y'know real real depressing, but this record is one of the things that changed my life." She also said Mick is close to her heart and like a brother to her.
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Carla Olson has been on a few podcasts recently and she said about Mick "He basically seems to be not really wanting to be on the road or do anything, y'know real real depressing, but this record is one of the things that changed my life." She also said Mick is close to her heart and like a brother to her.
This quote, combined with the lack of public appearances in recent years, makes it seem very much like he has actually retired. If so, then happy retirement. And thank you for the music.