I was at one of the reunion those shows at the Roxy in L.A., 1982.
Aside from the virtuoso blazing guitar of Mick Taylor, one thing I clearly remember from my front of stage vantage point was watching John McVie stomping around barefoot amidst several empty beer bottles.
It was just a matter of time before he ripped open his foot by stepping on one, but alas he never did...it was like he had a built in radar to avoid empty beer bottles.

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I thought I was the only one that doesn't think Exile is the best album in the Stones catalouge. As mentioned above Rocks Off and Casino Boogie are songs that comes to mind when argueing for what a great album it is. Rocks Off opends the album like Brown Sugar does and I'd say that is a good example: BS is one of their biggest classics while Rocks off more or less is a forgotten filler. When it comes to the classics on Exile, there are songs like Happy which in my opinion are porly played. Look what happened to Midnight Rambler from the studio version till the finished Ya Yas version. To me it's almost the same. The song is great but doesn' t reach to its potential before the whole band play it live on the american tour the year after it probably was recorded. If they had released the live version from '72, Happy would have been an elimentary classic on ther greatest hits albums. For me, Exile boils down to one perfect song (TS) and two really good songs ADTL and Ventilator Blues. The rest sounds like fillers, some great, others not. Anyway it's a huge amount of fillers for a double album. In general, I think, that many albums miss the great playing that Sticky Fingers has, and I beleave that particular album was more a democratic band thing than many of the other albums from their greatest periode.
Anyway I hope that I haven't offend anyone.

What's TS?

Let It Loose and All Down The Line are amongst the best they've done.

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I thought I was the only one that doesn't think Exile is the best album in the Stones catalouge. As mentioned above Rocks Off and Casino Boogie are songs that comes to mind when argueing for what a great album it is. Rocks Off opends the album like Brown Sugar does and I'd say that is a good example: BS is one of their biggest classics while Rocks off more or less is a forgotten filler. When it comes to the classics on Exile, there are songs like Happy which in my opinion are porly played. Look what happened to Midnight Rambler from the studio version till the finished Ya Yas version. To me it's almost the same. The song is great but doesn' t reach to its potential before the whole band play it live on the american tour the year after it probably was recorded. If they had released the live version from '72, Happy would have been an elimentary classic on ther greatest hits albums. For me, Exile boils down to one perfect song (TS) and two really good songs ADTL and Ventilator Blues. The rest sounds like fillers, some great, others not. Anyway it's a huge amount of fillers for a double album. In general, I think, that many albums miss the great playing that Sticky Fingers has, and I beleave that particular album was more a democratic band thing than many of the other albums from their greatest periode.
Anyway I hope that I haven't offend anyone.

What's TS?

Let It Loose and All Down The Line are amongst the best they've done.

Probably Tumbling Dice

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I thought I was the only one that doesn't think Exile is the best album in the Stones catalouge. As mentioned above Rocks Off and Casino Boogie are songs that comes to mind when argueing for what a great album it is. Rocks Off opends the album like Brown Sugar does and I'd say that is a good example: BS is one of their biggest classics while Rocks off more or less is a forgotten filler. When it comes to the classics on Exile, there are songs like Happy which in my opinion are porly played. Look what happened to Midnight Rambler from the studio version till the finished Ya Yas version. To me it's almost the same. The song is great but doesn' t reach to its potential before the whole band play it live on the american tour the year after it probably was recorded. If they had released the live version from '72, Happy would have been an elimentary classic on ther greatest hits albums. For me, Exile boils down to one perfect song (TS) and two really good songs ADTL and Ventilator Blues. The rest sounds like fillers, some great, others not. Anyway it's a huge amount of fillers for a double album. In general, I think, that many albums miss the great playing that Sticky Fingers has, and I beleave that particular album was more a democratic band thing than many of the other albums from their greatest periode.
Anyway I hope that I haven't offend anyone.

What's TS?

Let It Loose and All Down The Line are amongst the best they've done.

Probably Tumbling Dice

Sweet Virginia and Loving Cup!!

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I thought I was the only one that doesn't think Exile is the best album in the Stones catalouge. As mentioned above Rocks Off and Casino Boogie are songs that comes to mind when argueing for what a great album it is. Rocks Off opends the album like Brown Sugar does and I'd say that is a good example: BS is one of their biggest classics while Rocks off more or less is a forgotten filler. When it comes to the classics on Exile, there are songs like Happy which in my opinion are porly played. Look what happened to Midnight Rambler from the studio version till the finished Ya Yas version. To me it's almost the same. The song is great but doesn' t reach to its potential before the whole band play it live on the american tour the year after it probably was recorded. If they had released the live version from '72, Happy would have been an elimentary classic on ther greatest hits albums. For me, Exile boils down to one perfect song (TS) and two really good songs ADTL and Ventilator Blues. The rest sounds like fillers, some great, others not. Anyway it's a huge amount of fillers for a double album. In general, I think, that many albums miss the great playing that Sticky Fingers has, and I beleave that particular album was more a democratic band thing than many of the other albums from their greatest periode.
Anyway I hope that I haven't offend anyone.

What's TS?

Let It Loose and All Down The Line are amongst the best they've done.

Probably Tumbling Dice

Sweet Virginia and Loving Cup!!

Studio version of Happy is on my all time TOP 5 Stones tunes (or at least top 10) from their entire catalogue...what the heck is S.T.P talking about?!!!

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Of course, somehow it's just glazed over for some people that part of EOMS is from the SF sessions. But whatever. Rocks Off is killer Stones. A majority of EOMS is killer stones. Sure there are some tunes that are not up enough but whatever. Turd is a monster. Filler? It may be - but it's killer filler. The weakest track is Sweet Black Angel... in terms of overallness. But in regard to the LP, it works, it fits, it's just fine.

I've been one to say EOMS works great as a single LP running time - which it does. How one can deny that is idiotic: it's still great. But the journey that the album is, there's no topping that.

I'm not one to say it's their greatest LP ever - that's always a battle between LET IT BLEED and STICKY FINGERS, but it's easily in the Top 5, and considering their catalogue, that says a lot.

Happy could not've been done better. It's a brilliant tune. So it Tumbling Dice. And quite a few others. There's no way around that.

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Of course, somehow it's just glazed over for some people that part of EOMS is from the SF sessions. But whatever. Rocks Off is killer Stones. A majority of EOMS is killer stones. Sure there are some tunes that are not up enough but whatever. Turd is a monster. Filler? It may be - but it's killer filler. The weakest track is Sweet Black Angel... in terms of overallness. But in regard to the LP, it works, it fits, it's just fine.

I've been one to say EOMS works great as a single LP running time - which it does. How one can deny that is idiotic: it's still great. But the journey that the album is, there's no topping that.

I'm not one to say it's their greatest LP ever - that's always a battle between LET IT BLEED and STICKY FINGERS, but it's easily in the Top 5, and considering their catalogue, that says a lot.

Happy could not've been done better. It's a brilliant tune. So it Tumbling Dice. And quite a few others. There's no way around that.

That's a daring statement in this thread

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Happy could not've been done better. It's a brilliant tune. So it Tumbling Dice. And quite a few others. There's no way around that.

One might argue that :
"Happy" sounds unfinished - it was recorded in a single afternoon.
TD is a masterpiece - it was rehearsed over entire days.

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Happy could not've been done better. It's a brilliant tune. So it Tumbling Dice. And quite a few others. There's no way around that.

One might argue that :
"Happy" sounds unfinished - it was recorded in a single afternoon.
TD is a masterpiece - it was rehearsed over entire days.

Yet it sounds excellent.

I don't know... it sounds amateurish to me, like a demo that mysteriously ended on EOMS, instead of beign reworked redone improved...

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I thought I was the only one that doesn't think Exile is the best album in the Stones catalouge. As mentioned above Rocks Off and Casino Boogie are songs that comes to mind when argueing for what a great album it is. Rocks Off opends the album like Brown Sugar does and I'd say that is a good example: BS is one of their biggest classics while Rocks off more or less is a forgotten filler. When it comes to the classics on Exile, there are songs like Happy which in my opinion are porly played. Look what happened to Midnight Rambler from the studio version till the finished Ya Yas version. To me it's almost the same. The song is great but doesn' t reach to its potential before the whole band play it live on the american tour the year after it probably was recorded. If they had released the live version from '72, Happy would have been an elimentary classic on ther greatest hits albums. For me, Exile boils down to one perfect song (TS) and two really good songs ADTL and Ventilator Blues. The rest sounds like fillers, some great, others not. Anyway it's a huge amount of fillers for a double album. In general, I think, that many albums miss the great playing that Sticky Fingers has, and I beleave that particular album was more a democratic band thing than many of the other albums from their greatest periode.
Anyway I hope that I haven't offend anyone.

What's TS?

Let It Loose and All Down The Line are amongst the best they've done.

Hi!
What I was trying to Write was TD

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Happy could not've been done better. It's a brilliant tune. So it Tumbling Dice. And quite a few others. There's no way around that.

One might argue that :
"Happy" sounds unfinished - it was recorded in a single afternoon.
TD is a masterpiece - it was rehearsed over entire days.

Yet it sounds excellent.

Yes it's perfect the way it is. Keith knew exactly what he wanted, and when to call it a day with it.
Why keep polishing something that already shines like a diamond?

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Happy could not've been done better. It's a brilliant tune. So it Tumbling Dice. And quite a few others. There's no way around that.

One might argue that :
"Happy" sounds unfinished - it was recorded in a single afternoon.
TD is a masterpiece - it was rehearsed over entire days.

Yet it sounds excellent.

Yes it's perfect the way it is. Keith knew exactly what he wanted, and when to call it a day with it.
Why keep polishing something that already shines like a diamond?

It's a stripped-down rock track with a lethal hook, perfectly written, performed and produced, imo. The sound is crisper than on most of the other Exile tracks as well.

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Happy could not've been done better. It's a brilliant tune. So it Tumbling Dice. And quite a few others. There's no way around that.

One might argue that :
"Happy" sounds unfinished - it was recorded in a single afternoon.
TD is a masterpiece - it was rehearsed over entire days.

Yet it sounds excellent.

Yes it's perfect the way it is. Keith knew exactly what he wanted, and when to call it a day with it.
Why keep polishing something that already shines like a diamond?

Without Charlie and Bill

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I thought I was the only one that doesn't think Exile is the best album in the Stones catalouge. As mentioned above Rocks Off and Casino Boogie are songs that comes to mind when argueing for what a great album it is. Rocks Off opends the album like Brown Sugar does and I'd say that is a good example: BS is one of their biggest classics while Rocks off more or less is a forgotten filler. When it comes to the classics on Exile, there are songs like Happy which in my opinion are porly played. Look what happened to Midnight Rambler from the studio version till the finished Ya Yas version. To me it's almost the same. The song is great but doesn' t reach to its potential before the whole band play it live on the american tour the year after it probably was recorded. If they had released the live version from '72, Happy would have been an elimentary classic on ther greatest hits albums. For me, Exile boils down to one perfect song (TS) and two really good songs ADTL and Ventilator Blues. The rest sounds like fillers, some great, others not. Anyway it's a huge amount of fillers for a double album. In general, I think, that many albums miss the great playing that Sticky Fingers has, and I beleave that particular album was more a democratic band thing than many of the other albums from their greatest periode.
Anyway I hope that I haven't offend anyone.

What's TS?

Let It Loose and All Down The Line are amongst the best they've done.

Probably Tumbling Dice

Sweet Virginia and Loving Cup!!

Oh I was commenting on what I thought TS stood for.

In regards to Exile, it's hands down my favorite Stones album. some of the mixes are pretty stacked, but I don't mind.

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A night which i will never forget to see in person with my own eyes and listen to with my own ears to Mick Taylor back with the Rolling Stones .

I was there too. Had a great week in NYC, starting with the Brooklyn show.

A sublime moment for me too, seeing Mick T. with them for the first time. My experience was at the second O2 concert 2012. I'm man enough to admit my eyes swelled up. The fact that music is still that powerful to me at this stage in life is a blessing in my opinion. I hope you all feel something similar or the same. Cheers!

I know what you mean, THE GREEK! I saw 2 shows in Boston in 2013 and I got to see Mick T play on SWAY! A real thrill, and of course the final bow was a real treat. MT was NOT at the Brooklyn show that I went to and that was a huge disappointment! ( Dec 0f 2012). Will we EVER know the real reasons why he did not continue touring with the Stones?

Hope this thread doesn't become over run with any negativity. I realise he was invited (seemingly for a short while) and the fact he quit back in 1974. Anyhow, for me and I suspect many others this was a great opportunity to experience Mick T. with The Rolling Stones. Hope he's doing well where ever he is. Thanks I seen this moment for 6 concerts.

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I know what you mean, THE GREEK! I saw 2 shows in Boston in 2013 and I got to see Mick T play on SWAY! A real thrill, and of course the final bow was a real treat. MT was NOT at the Brooklyn show that I went to and that was a huge disappointment! ( Dec 0f 2012). Will we EVER know the real reasons why he did not continue touring with the Stones?

X2 was their with you as well and really enjoyed both shows and especially MT.

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News just in: The world-renowned, legendary guitarist Mick Taylor will be joining the line-up, helping us lift off the Lifting The Blues. As Keith Richard said “I learned a lot from Mick Taylor, because he is such a beautiful musician.”




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I'm so so happy I got to see him in Philadelphia on that tour. I said I would never see the Stones again after 2006, and I meant it. Had only seen them once, but for their prices and usually their setlist, once IS enough (at this stage in the game. They aren't getting "better"). And I had amazing side stage seats when I saw them. I'll save the money I'd spend on them a second time and use it towards someone else I've never seen (Petty, David Gilmour, Bob Dylan, list is long).

But when it was confirmed Mick Taylor was back, even for a song or two, I had to go. Its the ONLY thing that would get me to go to a Stones show again, short of it being free or really cheap, which it usually never is. I was lucky enough to get one of the cheap "sit anywhere" tickets (which was basically me just paying $90 to sit in the rafters), but whatever it was totally worth it. The sheer joy I felt when the lights went out and they burst into Can't You Hear Me Knockin' is something indescribable. Midnight Rambler just killed. It was worth spending the money to finally see Taylor back on that stage with them, not to mention that the Stones sounded better and had a better set this time around. NOW, I'll most likely never be back at a Stones show, but that Philly show was everything I ever needed.

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I'm so so happy I got to see him in Philadelphia on that tour. I said I would never see the Stones again after 2006, and I meant it. Had only seen them once, but for their prices and usually their setlist, once IS enough (at this stage in the game. They aren't getting "better"). And I had amazing side stage seats when I saw them. I'll save the money I'd spend on them a second time and use it towards someone else I've never seen (Petty, David Gilmour, Bob Dylan, list is long).

But when it was confirmed Mick Taylor was back, even for a song or two, I had to go. Its the ONLY thing that would get me to go to a Stones show again, short of it being free or really cheap, which it usually never is. I was lucky enough to get one of the cheap "sit anywhere" tickets (which was basically me just paying $90 to sit in the rafters), but whatever it was totally worth it. The sheer joy I felt when the lights went out and they burst into Can't You Hear Me Knockin' is something indescribable. Midnight Rambler just killed. It was worth spending the money to finally see Taylor back on that stage with them, not to mention that the Stones sounded better and had a better set this time around. NOW, I'll most likely never be back at a Stones show, but that Philly show was everything I ever needed.

My sentiments exactly.

The '50 and Counting Tour' in 2013 will always be remembered as the 'Mick Taylor Tour'.
No doubt some of the greatest Stones shows I've ever seen were because of his presence, with the 2nd Staples show (May 20th) being the best of the shows I witnessed that tour.
Have to say the Zip Code tour was a bit of a let down after that, and only went to one show - the 'Mick Taylor Tour' is definitely a hard act to follow.
I don't see things getting any better, but will still enjoy whatever Stones shows I see here on out.

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From "Het Dagblad van het Noorden" today:

Mick Taylor lives in Diever a little village in Drenthe, the Netherlands.

Can not post the whole article because I am not registrated to the newspaper.

Hij wordt gezien als de beste gitarist die de Rolling Stones ooit hadden: Mick Taylor. Na zijn vertrek uit de band werd het stil rond hem. Nog altijd leeft de Brit teruggetrokken. In... Diever!

Vijfenhalf jaar stond hij op de planken met Mick Jagger en Keith Richards. Hij was de leadgitarist van de bekendste rock-’n-rollband ter wereld in hun beste periode, de eerste helft van de jaren zeventig.

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Google doesn't translate well, but this is the full dutch article. Quite funny read. Another famous guitarist that seems to like a retreat in the ever charming Dutch countryside....


‘Lost Rolling Stone’ Mick Taylor is nu een Drent

Hij wordt gezien als de beste gitarist die de Rolling Stones ooit hadden: Mick Taylor. Na zijn vertrek uit de band werd het stil rond hem. Nog altijd leeft de Brit teruggetrokken. In... Diever!

Vijfenhalf jaar stond hij op de planken met Mick Jagger en Keith Richards. Hij was de leadgitarist van de bekendste rock-’n-rollband ter wereld in hun beste periode, de eerste helft van de jaren zeventig.

Hij was erbij tijdens het catastrofale, door 300.000 mensen bezochte optreden van de Rolling Stones in Altamont, waar de Hells Angels pal voor het podium een toeschouwer ombrachten.

Pleased to meet you: Mick Taylor. Blonde krullen, babyface en iemand die te schuchter leek voor de brutale Stones. Maar tegelijk iemand met een uitzonderlijk talent, een gitarist die Richards in de schaduw stelde. Qua spel dan, niet qua charisma. Na zijn vertrek uit de band, in 1974, werd het wat stil rond Taylor.

Verslaafd

Hij trok zich terug, trad nog wel op maar raakte langdurig verslaafd aan heroïne. De Brit verbleef afwisselend in de VS en Engeland. Ruim veertig jaar later blijkt deze lost Stone, 67 inmiddels, in... Diever te wonen, bij zijn Drentse vriendin.

Het dorp ziet de ex-Stone met enige regelmaat over straat gaan. Bij de kapper en in de supermarkt gaat het over de Engelsman, maar Diever hangt het niet aan de grote klok. Taylor wil teruggetrokken leven, de inwoners accepteren dat. In het rustige, amper 2000 zielende tellende dorp kan zelfs een oud-Rolling Stone anoniem naar de bakker wandelen.

Taylors vriendin is Marlies Damming. Aan de telefoon is ze vriendelijk, maar resoluut. Ze snapt het verzoek om een gesprek. Zeker nu uitgerekend deze maand de Rolling Stones voor het eerst in tien jaar een nieuw album hebben uitgebracht. ,,Maar nee. Mick is erg gesteld op zijn privacy.” Op vragen over het leven van haar en de ex-Stone in Drenthe gaat ze niet in.

,,We voerden heel diepgaande gesprekken”

Damming (43) en Taylor kennen elkaar al zestien jaar. Het Nieuwsblad van het Noorden, een van de voorgangers van deze krant, besteedde in 2000 al kort aandacht aan het koppel. Damming studeerde in die tijd in Groningen en de ex-Stone had haar zojuist opgezocht in het studentenhuis. Het was een kleine twee maanden na hun eerste ontmoeting, na afloop van een optreden van de Mick Taylor Band in het Belgische Verviers.

,,We voerden heel diepgaande gesprekken”, vertelt Damming in de krant. ,,Het was voor ons allebei heel inspirerend.” Het was het begin van de relatie tussen de Drentse en de 24 jaar oudere bluesgitarist. Ook The Mammoth Book of the Rolling Stones, het in 2013 uitgebrachte standaardwerk over de band, noemt Taylor en Damming even. Afgezien van deze twee publicaties heeft het koppel altijd uit de schijnwerpers weten te blijven.

De oude schittering

Het boek gaat nog wel in op de rol en betekenis van Damming als het gaat om de carrière van de gitarist. Auteur Sean Egan denkt wel te weten waarom Taylor de laatste jaren iets van de oude schittering terug lijkt te hebben. De Brit staat ook weer vaker op het podium, met enige regelmaat zelfs als gastgitarist tijdens optredens van de Stones.

‘Much of Mick’s new lease on life and enthusiasm comes from his girlfriend Marlies Damming’, schrijft Egan. Damming heeft een uitgebreid profiel op netwerksite LinkedIn. Ze deed gymnasium aan het Menso Alting college in Hoogeveen. Na haar studie medicijnen werkte ze onder meer bij de ING en Icare. Op dit moment is ze Taylors manager.

Haat- liefdeverhouding

Zelf heeft de forgotten Stone, zoals hij ook wordt genoemd, de laatste jaren een opmerkelijke haat-liefdeverhouding gekregen met ’s werelds bekendste rock-’n-rollgroep. Jagger en co vragen de beste gitarist die de Stones ooit hadden zo nu en dan een paar nummers mee te spelen. Anderzijds ‘vergaten’ ze bijvoorbeeld hem dit voorjaar uit te nodigen voor de opening, in Londen, van Exhibitionism: de expositie over de geschiedenis van de Rolling Stones.

Taylor heeft een Facebookpagina, waarop hij hierover zijn beklag heeft gedaan. De tentoonstelling bevat immers ook herinneringen aan zíjn jaren bij de Stones. ‘It appears they are using my name and likeness for another multi-million dollar making exercise’, gromt de gitarist uit Diever op 3 april. Een week later meldt hij in een bericht met foto hoe hij heeft genoten op de slotdag van de Bowie-expositie in het Groninger Museum. Hij bedankt directeur Andreas Blühm voor de uitnodiging.

In Diever laten ze de ex-Stone en zijn blonde vriendin met rust. ,,Mick wil gewoon over straat kunnen lopen. In Diever respecteren de mensen dat”, vertelt Damming. In het dorp groet iedereen elkaar. Dievernaren merken op dat Taylor dat kennelijk niet is gewend.

Niet heel vriendelijk

,,Hij zegt niet altijd wat terug”, klinkt het. ,,Niet héél vriendelijk, deze man”, zegt een ander. De gitarist die in 1969 debuteerde bij de Stones, in Hyde Park in Londen en voor een kwart miljoen bezoekers, slentert nu stilletjes door het Drentse esdorp, op weg naar de Coop of de bakker. ,,Heb ‘em veurige week nog ‘zien loop’n met zien boodschappentassie”, vertelt een oudere Dievernaar.

Marlies Damming vertelt dat haar beroemde levenspartner nog altijd interviewverzoeken ontvangt van de muziekpers. ,,Maar Mick gaat nergens op in. Sorry, ook niet op een verzoek om te praten over hoe het is om als oud-Rolling Stone in Drenthe te leven.” Zelf ziet Damming er ook niet zo veel bijzonders in: Mick Taylor is gewoon een bluesmuzikant die besloten heeft naar Drenthe te verhuizen. ,,Ik ben vrij nuchter. Harry Muskee woonde ook in Drenthe. Misschien zit er hier iets speciaals in het water, haha.”



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I read the article this morning.... no real news.
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