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thats great,good to hear..now please go away.there has got to be a beatles fansite somewhere on the internet where you guys can talk about this lame-ass amongst yourselves.

maybe its called "get back" or "come together" or "we love the beatles"or something.just go there,now...i'm begging you.

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Might as well read:

"Paul McCartney has a top 5 single... tough it's nothing more than yet another one of those sh*ty st*nkers of songs, these insults to humanity he's been writing ever since who-knows-how-long; a man who defecates absolutely gruesome stuff like "Mull Of Kintire", "Ebony and Ivory", "the Girl is mine" ànd "ob la di (etc.)" in ONE & the same lifetime should never have been knighted but horendously tortured instead;

while Mick Jagger is happy, just like Stonesfans worldwide, having the Stones to be the killer LIVE act they've always been, first & foremost; being able to play from an almighty, almost surreally impressive backcatalogue with literally dozens of popular hits as well as all-time rock'n'roll classics that make it really REALLY hard NOT to play the same songs over & over again, especially in view of the crowds the're still catching..."

But I DO think I'm miscueing, here... (Where did I go wrong?!)

EDIT: Ooops - now I see. "...happy just like Stonesfans worldwide": should 've chosen those words more carefully.

no kidding.i'm filing this one under "beatleheads say the funniest things"

those #3 and #5 billboard chartings are absolute bombs that dropped off the charts after a few days.if one of them even made it to being a gold record i'd be shocked.
not to mention the music,if you can call it that, absolutly sucks on ice.its cringeworthy to even listen to paul try to get through one of his "new songs'

yet his lapdogs,i mean fans use all these flowery words they saw in music reviews-"its vital new grounbreaking material"-no its crap no one wants to hear from a has been who has lost his ability to write a decent song.
is he gonna do an entire live show of the songs from these records that didnt sell?-no, he's gonna make people suffer through a couple of them and then go to the hits.at least the stones knew when to give it up.

the title of this thread should be "paul mccartney crawls on his knees to kanye west to get a hit while the stones keep rolling"

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lem motlow
thats great,good to hear..now please go away.there has got to be a beatles fansite somewhere on the internet where you guys can talk about this lame-ass amongst yourselves.

maybe its called "get back" or "come together" or "we love the beatles"or something.just go there,now...i'm begging you.

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Is that his newest setlist?

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lem motlow
thats great,good to hear..now please go away.there has got to be a beatles fansite somewhere on the internet where you guys can talk about this lame-ass amongst yourselves.

maybe its called "get back" or "come together" or "we love the beatles"or something.just go there,now...i'm begging you.

Typical jealous intolerance. Anything other than slavish, North Korea-style devotion to the Stones automatically results in a Stalinist purging from the fan club.

The Stones are stale and feeble...I love them and honestly don't care for McCartney much but I have much more respect for him as an artist than I do for the Stones these days.

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lem motlow
thats great,good to hear..now please go away.there has got to be a beatles fansite somewhere on the internet where you guys can talk about this lame-ass amongst yourselves.

maybe its called "get back" or "come together" or "we love the beatles"or something.just go there,now...i'm begging you.

Typical jealous intolerance. Anything other than slavish, North Korea-style devotion to the Stones automatically results in a Stalinist purging from the fan club.

The Stones are stale and feeble...I love them and honestly don't care for McCartney much but I have much more respect for him as an artist than I do for the Stones these days.

hey the Stones might be old but they aint feeble

and they would never ever title an album 'kisses on the bottom'...

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Is that his newest setlist?

From Irving Plaza NY, Feb. 14 of this year. I still call BS on him touring behind new music. Show me a show where even 1/4 of the songs are from a "new" record. I saw him perform last summer and his old material was what got the crowd going and what I thought was best. I love him and respect his musicianship, he's held up amazingly well, but comparing him to the Stones is kind of pointless.

And yes, I'd love to see a new great record from the Stones, who wouldn't?, but I'm not going to be critical of them for resting on their laurels at this point. They are what they are, the last great band still playing together from the early days of rock and roll and the playing together part has obviously become the focus and draw, not the new music. They are old men and have exceeded my expectations as such, we're lucky they are still giving us anything at this point. Nostalgia in the case of the Stones isn't a bad thing, yeah, it's the only thing, but still a good thing. peace

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it never gets old-

"north korean style devotion"-"stalinist purging"-"getting personaL when arguements are running out"-"the stones are stale and feeble"

i dont do it to upset you guys,i swear i dont. but damnit you lose your minds sooo bad and its funny as hell.i shouldve bashed mick and keith instead ,no one would've gotten upset.

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I love Paul, but lets face it, age has caused him to lose something off his fastball. Great live show, still churns out the classics...but he hasn't put out anything new worth listening too since Tug of War

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Is that his newest setlist?

From Irving Plaza NY, Feb. 14 of this year. I still call BS on him touring behind new music. Show me a show where even 1/4 of the songs are from a "new" record. I saw him perform last summer and his old material was what got the crowd going and what I thought was best. I love him and respect his musicianship, he's held up amazingly well, but comparing him to the Stones is kind of pointless.

And yes, I'd love to see a new great record from the Stones, who wouldn't?, but I'm not going to be critical of them for resting on their laurels at this point. They are what they are, the last great band still playing together from the early days of rock and roll and the playing together part has obviously become the focus and draw, not the new music. They are old men and have exceeded my expectations as such, we're lucky they are still giving us anything at this point. Nostalgia in the case of the Stones isn't a bad thing, yeah, it's the only thing, but still a good thing. peace

1. When you are going to a concert, do you then expect to hear 1/4 material being new? The last time both The Stones and McCartney did that, was in the seventies.

2. When you are going to a Stones concert, what do you think gets the crowd going? Doom & Gloom or Brown Sugar? Of course old material are what people goes wild to.

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Yes, i am upset and Rolling Stones do not move me too much these last years. I did't attend any show of these last tours.
I need some fresh music and some improvement on the guitar section. They should work on a new album and tour playing some new songs.

The Stones are not able to make good music anymore. They have tried. They are my favorite band ever by far but I can't figure them out. They have played basically the same concert now for quarter of a century and now plan on doing it some more.

I can't believe that any of them want to keep doing this, it got boring decades ago. I can't believe that Mick and Keith would rather just do the same thi9ng over and over again before doing something new on their own.

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"Peace everybody - peace - cool it - everybody - stop pushing each other - cool it, everybody, pleeaaase!"

Altamount Speedway, December 1969.

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Yes, i am upset and Rolling Stones do not move me too much these last years. I did't attend any show of these last tours.
I need some fresh music and some improvement on the guitar section. They should work on a new album and tour playing some new songs.

The Stones are not able to make good music anymore. They have tried. They are my favorite band ever by far but I can't figure them out. They have played basically the same concert now for quarter of a century and now plan on doing it some more.

I can't believe that any of them want to keep doing this, it got boring decades ago. I can't believe that Mick and Keith would rather just do the same thi9ng over and over again before doing something new on their own.

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Yes, i am upset and Rolling Stones do not move me too much these last years. I did't attend any show of these last tours.
I need some fresh music and some improvement on the guitar section. They should work on a new album and tour playing some new songs.

The Stones are not able to make good music anymore. They have tried. They are my favorite band ever by far but I can't figure them out. They have played basically the same concert now for quarter of a century and now plan on doing it some more.

I can't believe that any of them want to keep doing this, it got boring decades ago. I can't believe that Mick and Keith would rather just do the same thi9ng over and over again before doing something new on their own.

It's interesting that some fans think the Stones are boring - you wonder if they've actually seen the group. I go to dozens of concerts every year by all kinds of acts. But, I look at this clip of the Stones at their most recent show in Auckland - with the epic Mick Taylor solo, and Jagger on the mini-stage, as sheets of rain fall - and "boring" is the last thing that comes to mind. In fact, I can't think of anyone that is anywhere near this good. I took this video, by the way, and as great as it is, it doesn't capture how amazing it was to see it live.

It's not that they are boring as a live act, but what is boring is that they continue to do the same exact thing tour after tour and they don't even bother to produce new material.

If you go to a Springsteen, McCartney or Dylan show they always play new material. How many times do you want to hear Miss You live? As artists (and I use that term lightly these day) you would think that they would get tired of playing the same songs night after night. As artists wouldn't they want to attempt to create something great rather that be an oldies act?

Hat's off to Paul McCartney and the success of "Four Five Seconds" while the Stones tour behind a 44 year old record.

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In the time since the Rolling Stones released their last studio record "A Bigger Bang" Paul McCartney has released the following records all critical and commercial hits to one degree or another (and yes I understand that these records debut high + fall off fairly quickly, BUT nobody sells records these days as people steal everything on line)

2005 - Chaos and Creation (#6 Billboard)
2007 - Memory Almost Full (#3 Billboard)
2012 - Kisses on the Bottom (#5 Billboard
2013 - New (#3 Billboard)

In addition to these "normal" studio albums McCartney has made two classical records + a couple of experimental albums with the Firemen. He has also toured extensively, been involved in high profile events (ex Olympics, SNL 40th Anniversary, Nirvana reunion etc...) and put out several singles (won a Grammy for Cut Me Some Slack with Dave Grohl)

2005 - Twin Freaks
2006 - Ecce Cor Meum
2008 - Electric Arguments
2011 - Ocean's Kingdom

As I type he has the #4 single in America with Four, Five Seconds. A song that has hit #1 several different countries as well as #1 on the R+B chart in America and hit #2 in Europe.

Point being McCartney may very well be the only living person who is of the same statue of the Rolling Stones and he isn't resting on his laurels. Unlike the Stones he is at least attempting to stretch creatively and "grow this music up" as Keith would say.

At the same time the Rolling Stones have delivered exactly two new songs and some outakes from 40 year old records while touring constantly, but playing the same old warhorses decade after decade. Who would have thought Mick Jagger would allow the Rolling Stones to become a stale oldies act?

Forgive me if I can't get excited about a tour this summer reportedly to be based on Sticky Fingers a record that was released in 1971...44 years ago. In my eyes that's kind of pathetic. I understand that there isn't as much money in making music these days as opposed to playing live, BUT McCartney has more money than the Stones and it doesn't stop him.

Is anyone else upset that the Stones seem ok with just being an oldies act when we know they still have some good new music left it them? Imagine how if they put out one last late in the game classic (or even a very good record) how it would shore up their legacy. McCartney may not get there, but unlike the Stones at least he is trying.

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I mean, I am a Paul McCartney fan and will be taking my family to see him at Tokyo Dome in April. But seriously, is there even a song in the Stones catalogue as awful as this?

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Don't have anything against McCartney, but only the most deluded fanboy would think he's the one responsible for that song's popularity. Despite repeated attempts, he hasn't had a decent hit here in the US since Spies Like Us, 30 years ago. Even the Stones, with their meager output since then, have had better chart success.

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Don't have anything against McCartney, but only the most deluded fanboy would think he's the one responsible for that song's popularity. Despite repeated attempts, he hasn't had a decent hit here in the US since Spies Like Us, 30 years ago. Even the Stones, with their meager output since then, have had better chart success.

Weren't songs like My Brave Face, This One or Hope of Deliverance radio-hits in ths US? In Europe they were quite popular.

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Paul is experiencing success? Good on him!

Why are we even discussing him on this site, let alone comparing this solo artist with the Stones?

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Don't have anything against McCartney, but only the most deluded fanboy would think he's the one responsible for that song's popularity. Despite repeated attempts, he hasn't had a decent hit here in the US since Spies Like Us, 30 years ago. Even the Stones, with their meager output since then, have had better chart success.