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Couldn't tell you if he was serious or not but it's pretty clear he's listened to record more than once. peace
Well, when the Oscars award 'best picture', lots of different styles of movies get into that category, block busters and smaller independent movies that don't make that much money.
Just because a movie is a BLOCKBUSTER doesn't mean it's even a good movie.
Gee, I wonder if we can find any parallels to the current subject of discussion?
Love BECK BTW and what a pleasant surprise he won. Like many others, I only wish he kicked yeesus in the nads.
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That stuff is garbage. He's overrated, overhyped and needs to get over hisself. That little douche Conyay will never be an artist.
Beck Hansen is an artist. MORNING PHASE is a great LP. Kanyawn is an idiot!
Lou would be rolling his eyes at that comment.
Valid artist? What do you call Axl Rose then?
Valid doesn't equal good. Kanye SUCKS. And on top of that he's a complete... dickhead.
He seems to inspire a lot of people so although I have absolutely no interest in him or his music whatsoever, doesn't mean he isn't an artist.
Unfortunately for him, whether or not he's a good artist will always be overshadowed by his narcissistic dickheadedness. An 'entitled' stupid moron.
I agree, but just don't like the blanket fossilized 'new=music=sucks' mantra that some older fans throw out there to every young artist who isn't Ryan Adams or some other 'indie' fave.
KW may not be to everyone's taste, but to suggest that Lou Reed was 'joking' about his admiration for Yeezus is absurd and the height of old fart delusion.
Besides, I really wanted to give a shout-out to Miranda Lambert!
albums with multiple writers and producers more of a commercial packaged designed to sell with maximum effect and little artistry from the maker (s). Beck's album made a big impact on people who like his music, and was universally liked by top critics. And again, he WROTE his music and plays instruments and creates vivid soundscapes that provoke emotional responses and thoughts. But I am not a fan of rap or faux r n b at all. I find the new age r n b is just an excuse for vocal histrionics and loud brach sterile music. A far cry from the days of Stax and Atlantic records. I do not think West's or Beyonce's album to be terrific at all. I find them boring cliches of commercialised American Idol music that has become an insipid infection in the music industry. Plus, it just sucks and sounds like shit.
I agree. I was subjected to about 4 hours of the latest pop music today, I really listened to try to find one song or one sound that I liked. There was one song with an acoustic guitar audible for about 15 seconds that sounded ok, that was it. The vocals, beats, production all sounded the same...just a total lack of soul. It was like the Stepford wives version of life had taken over the music..... peace
I could write something similar about the Rolling Stones and Mahler.
You and I listen to music differently. I want to hear a good album. Period.
You first check the booklet before exploring the music?
I really don't care who the artist is or what genre it is. If the aforementioned Miley Cyrus releases a great single...I'll be the first to admit it.... no matter how many producers.
What I do agree on is that the artistery mentioned by West, is not a valid argument to give the award to Beyoncé.
Beck is very involved in his music, true... Beyoncé is not. It's an album vs a project.
Beyoncé has a team looking for 14 dope beats, she puts some lyrics to them and there you go.
Kanye West is something different. Kanye West is very involved in his albums. It's always his vision. No matter how many producers work on it... it's a Kanye West album. If you like it or not, that's subjective.
Also comparing to Stax, Atlantic doesn't make sense to me. To me that's even a completely different genre.
Blackberry Smoke is far cry from the stones or the allman brothers... but I do like 'em. The past is the past.
So was the Sturgill Simpson album (my pick as greatest album of 2014). I would find it a weird choice too if that album won Album of the Year (was actually nominated in the Americana category, but didn't win).
I need to improve my English before.
That's very interesting cos it's basically how capitalism/big corps works these days.
They basically outsource everything they can so they don't create anything & they slap their brand name on the stuff they bought left and right... just like Beyoncé?
Completely agree on the bolded point.
and...MIRANDA!!!
Although some of your generalizations on "corporations" may stretch things a bit, I wouldn't disagree at all if someone were to say that the JayZ/Beyoncé "family business" is, in fact, a MAJOR corporation. It must be difficult for some of these celebrities to keep an "image of self" when they are also the "product" that their business sells.
Peace,
Mr DJA
In one aspect you're spot on - not all new music sucks. Or however you want to put it. It's just that when someone is clearly talentless and a complete moron, like Kanye West, that doesn't mean one is an old fart by rote because they don't like them/it/him/her. It just means he sucks. If you want to defend his stance as an artist and blah blah blah it comes off as shining a turd. Calling Kanye West an artist is a defiling of the term artist. You might as well say Mark Gormley is just as much of an artist as Kanye West.
Why?
omg that was good.
Moron, yes. COMPLETE moron, no. Because, clearly talented at a. music, b. self-publicity, c. music, d. making money, by selling lots of e. music.
Extremely flawed genius, like most of them.
On that basis, I guess his wife is also a genius.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
Stoneage
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Date: February 11, 2015 20:00
That Kanye West makes even Bobby Brown look like a gentleman in comparison. He's hugely popular among young women here in Sweden though. So is Beyonce.
They even claim she's a feminist. Which of course she isn't. But that doesn't matter, you can't argue with young women anyway. They'll win anyhow.
They even claim she's a feminist. Which of course she isn't. But that doesn't matter, you can't argue with young women anyway. They'll win anyhow.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
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Date: February 11, 2015 20:56
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I'm a much bigger troll than Lou Reed ever was when it comes to talk about music, but... I don't get the Yeezus hate, and I'm not even joking.
It was great trolling by Lou........ Very obvious for people that enjoy ironic humour, yet subtle enough to take some people in!
Classic Lou Reed.
You're teaching your grandmother to suck eggs...
But when Lou Reed wrote that Kanye West was talented, he did mean it!
Couldn't tell you if he was serious or not but it's pretty clear he's listened to record more than once. peace
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
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Date: February 11, 2015 21:37
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Morning Phase by Beck? All songs written and produced by Beck. Beyonce's self-titled album? Four featured guest artists, seventeen producers, and twenty-five (count 'em!) different songwriters. Kanye's Jeezus? Over 20 producers and more than 40 songwriters. I guess my definition of "artistry" is different than Kanye's.
Who cares? I want to hear a good album. If it's one producer: fine. 105 producers? Fine too. There's a Producer of the Year award for that.
I think Kanye's point is that the Beck album didn't make any impact. At any level. Sure, it might be a good album but no one cares/cared. That really can't be an album of the year. It'll fall in the category of Herbie Hancock, Steely Dan, Robert Plant/Alison Kraus: fine albums, but we'll only remember them because of the Grammy Awards, not because they were so great.
While the Beyonce album was an event. Even artisically, no matter how many producers... It's a pretty terrific r&b album.
Well I cared about Becks new album..... I've been playing it since it's release.
Bowiestone...... When is the new Miley album due?
I'll check that for you grandpa.
Well, when the Oscars award 'best picture', lots of different styles of movies get into that category, block busters and smaller independent movies that don't make that much money.
Just because a movie is a BLOCKBUSTER doesn't mean it's even a good movie.
Gee, I wonder if we can find any parallels to the current subject of discussion?
Love BECK BTW and what a pleasant surprise he won. Like many others, I only wish he kicked yeesus in the nads.
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Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
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Date: February 11, 2015 23:08
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I am happy that Beck won because his record "Morning Phase" is great. Maybe not for everybody's taste but he made a well crafted album with beautiful melodies, harmonies and amazing musical arrangments. It's low key but very sincere and effective on the brain. No pretentious crap like Kanye West's overrated and auto tune bullshit.
Rock and roll,
Mops
Overrated?
That stuff is garbage. He's overrated, overhyped and needs to get over hisself. That little douche Conyay will never be an artist.
Beck Hansen is an artist. MORNING PHASE is a great LP. Kanyawn is an idiot!
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Posted by:
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Date: February 12, 2015 01:41
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I'm a much bigger troll than Lou Reed ever was when it comes to talk about music, but... I don't get the Yeezus hate, and I'm not even joking.
It was great trolling by Lou........ Very obvious for people that enjoy ironic humour, yet subtle enough to take some people in!
Classic Lou Reed.
Lou would be rolling his eyes at that comment.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
stupidguy2
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Date: February 12, 2015 01:43
Kanye is obnoxious, but that doesn't mean he isn't a valid artist.
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
shadooby
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Date: February 12, 2015 01:54
Rap took over MTV...then it SOMEHOW weasled it's way into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME...in the words of Greg Allman...RAP IS CRAP!
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Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: February 12, 2015 02:00
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Kanye is obnoxious, but that doesn't mean he isn't a valid artist.
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
Valid artist? What do you call Axl Rose then?
Valid doesn't equal good. Kanye SUCKS. And on top of that he's a complete... dickhead.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
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Date: February 12, 2015 02:02
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Kanye is obnoxious, but that doesn't mean he isn't a valid artist.
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
Valid artist? What do you call Axl Rose then?
Valid doesn't equal good. Kanye SUCKS. And on top of that he's a complete... dickhead.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
shadooby
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Date: February 12, 2015 02:08
Chris Slade (as well as Stevie) freakin rocked...they won't miss a beat if they go on the road with that line-up.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
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Date: February 12, 2015 04:05
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Kanye is obnoxious, but that doesn't mean he isn't a valid artist.
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
Valid artist? What do you call Axl Rose then?
Valid doesn't equal good. Kanye SUCKS. And on top of that he's a complete... dickhead.
He seems to inspire a lot of people so although I have absolutely no interest in him or his music whatsoever, doesn't mean he isn't an artist.
Unfortunately for him, whether or not he's a good artist will always be overshadowed by his narcissistic dickheadedness. An 'entitled' stupid moron.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
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Date: February 12, 2015 06:32
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Kanye is obnoxious, but that doesn't mean he isn't a valid artist.
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
Valid artist? What do you call Axl Rose then?
Valid doesn't equal good. Kanye SUCKS. And on top of that he's a complete... dickhead.
He seems to inspire a lot of people so although I have absolutely no interest in him or his music whatsoever, doesn't mean he isn't an artist.
Unfortunately for him, whether or not he's a good artist will always be overshadowed by his narcissistic dickheadedness. An 'entitled' stupid moron.
I agree, but just don't like the blanket fossilized 'new=music=sucks' mantra that some older fans throw out there to every young artist who isn't Ryan Adams or some other 'indie' fave.
KW may not be to everyone's taste, but to suggest that Lou Reed was 'joking' about his admiration for Yeezus is absurd and the height of old fart delusion.
Besides, I really wanted to give a shout-out to Miranda Lambert!
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
whitem8
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Date: February 12, 2015 07:29
Well that is your take on it and mine is very different. I findQuote
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Morning Phase by Beck? All songs written and produced by Beck. Beyonce's self-titled album? Four featured guest artists, seventeen producers, and twenty-five (count 'em!) different songwriters. Kanye's Jeezus? Over 20 producers and more than 40 songwriters. I guess my definition of "artistry" is different than Kanye's.
Who cares? I want to hear a good album. If it's one producer: fine. 105 producers? Fine too. There's a Producer of the Year award for that.
I think Kanye's point is that the Beck album didn't make any impact. At any level. Sure, it might be a good album but no one cares/cared. That really can't be an album of the year. It'll fall in the category of Herbie Hancock, Steely Dan, Robert Plant/Alison Kraus: fine albums, but we'll only remember them because of the Grammy Awards, not because they were so great.
While the Beyonce album was an event. Even artisically, no matter how many producers... It's a pretty terrific r&b album.
albums with multiple writers and producers more of a commercial packaged designed to sell with maximum effect and little artistry from the maker (s). Beck's album made a big impact on people who like his music, and was universally liked by top critics. And again, he WROTE his music and plays instruments and creates vivid soundscapes that provoke emotional responses and thoughts. But I am not a fan of rap or faux r n b at all. I find the new age r n b is just an excuse for vocal histrionics and loud brach sterile music. A far cry from the days of Stax and Atlantic records. I do not think West's or Beyonce's album to be terrific at all. I find them boring cliches of commercialised American Idol music that has become an insipid infection in the music industry. Plus, it just sucks and sounds like shit.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: February 12, 2015 08:02
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Morning Phase by Beck? All songs written and produced by Beck. Beyonce's self-titled album? Four featured guest artists, seventeen producers, and twenty-five (count 'em!) different songwriters. Kanye's Jeezus? Over 20 producers and more than 40 songwriters. I guess my definition of "artistry" is different than Kanye's.
Who cares? I want to hear a good album. If it's one producer: fine. 105 producers? Fine too. There's a Producer of the Year award for that.
I think Kanye's point is that the Beck album didn't make any impact. At any level. Sure, it might be a good album but no one cares/cared. That really can't be an album of the year. It'll fall in the category of Herbie Hancock, Steely Dan, Robert Plant/Alison Kraus: fine albums, but we'll only remember them because of the Grammy Awards, not because they were so great.
While the Beyonce album was an event. Even artisically, no matter how many producers... It's a pretty terrific r&b album.
albums with multiple writers and producers more of a commercial packaged designed to sell with maximum effect and little artistry from the maker (s). Beck's album made a big impact on people who like his music, and was universally liked by top critics. And again, he WROTE his music and plays instruments and creates vivid soundscapes that provoke emotional responses and thoughts. But I am not a fan of rap or faux r n b at all. I find the new age r n b is just an excuse for vocal histrionics and loud brach sterile music. A far cry from the days of Stax and Atlantic records. I do not think West's or Beyonce's album to be terrific at all. I find them boring cliches of commercialised American Idol music that has become an insipid infection in the music industry. Plus, it just sucks and sounds like shit.
I agree. I was subjected to about 4 hours of the latest pop music today, I really listened to try to find one song or one sound that I liked. There was one song with an acoustic guitar audible for about 15 seconds that sounded ok, that was it. The vocals, beats, production all sounded the same...just a total lack of soul. It was like the Stepford wives version of life had taken over the music..... peace
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
RomanCandle
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Date: February 12, 2015 08:34
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Morning Phase by Beck? All songs written and produced by Beck. Beyonce's self-titled album? Four featured guest artists, seventeen producers, and twenty-five (count 'em!) different songwriters. Kanye's Jeezus? Over 20 producers and more than 40 songwriters. I guess my definition of "artistry" is different than Kanye's.
Who cares? I want to hear a good album. If it's one producer: fine. 105 producers? Fine too. There's a Producer of the Year award for that.
I think Kanye's point is that the Beck album didn't make any impact. At any level. Sure, it might be a good album but no one cares/cared. That really can't be an album of the year. It'll fall in the category of Herbie Hancock, Steely Dan, Robert Plant/Alison Kraus: fine albums, but we'll only remember them because of the Grammy Awards, not because they were so great.
While the Beyonce album was an event. Even artisically, no matter how many producers... It's a pretty terrific r&b album.
Well that is your take on it and mine is very different. I find albums with multiple writers and producers more of a commercial packaged designed to sell with maximum effect and little artistry from the maker (s). Beck's album made a big impact on people who like his music, and was universally liked by top critics. And again, he WROTE his music and plays instruments and creates vivid soundscapes that provoke emotional responses and thoughts. But I am not a fan of rap or faux r n b at all. I find the new age r n b is just an excuse for vocal histrionics and loud brach sterile music. A far cry from the days of Stax and Atlantic records. I do not think West's or Beyonce's album to be terrific at all. I find them boring cliches of commercialised American Idol music that has become an insipid infection in the music industry. Plus, it just sucks and sounds like shit.
I could write something similar about the Rolling Stones and Mahler.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: February 12, 2015 09:18
Okay start writin' ... we'll all wait here
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
BowieStone
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Date: February 12, 2015 12:35
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Well that is your take on it and mine is very different. I find
albums with multiple writers and producers more of a commercial packaged designed to sell with maximum effect and little artistry from the maker (s). Beck's album made a big impact on people who like his music, and was universally liked by top critics. And again, he WROTE his music and plays instruments and creates vivid soundscapes that provoke emotional responses and thoughts. But I am not a fan of rap or faux r n b at all. I find the new age r n b is just an excuse for vocal histrionics and loud brach sterile music. A far cry from the days of Stax and Atlantic records. I do not think West's or Beyonce's album to be terrific at all. I find them boring cliches of commercialised American Idol music that has become an insipid infection in the music industry. Plus, it just sucks and sounds like shit.
You and I listen to music differently. I want to hear a good album. Period.
You first check the booklet before exploring the music?
I really don't care who the artist is or what genre it is. If the aforementioned Miley Cyrus releases a great single...I'll be the first to admit it.... no matter how many producers.
What I do agree on is that the artistery mentioned by West, is not a valid argument to give the award to Beyoncé.
Beck is very involved in his music, true... Beyoncé is not. It's an album vs a project.
Beyoncé has a team looking for 14 dope beats, she puts some lyrics to them and there you go.
Kanye West is something different. Kanye West is very involved in his albums. It's always his vision. No matter how many producers work on it... it's a Kanye West album. If you like it or not, that's subjective.
Also comparing to Stax, Atlantic doesn't make sense to me. To me that's even a completely different genre.
Blackberry Smoke is far cry from the stones or the allman brothers... but I do like 'em. The past is the past.
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Beck's album made a big impact on people who like his music, and was universally liked by top critics.
So was the Sturgill Simpson album (my pick as greatest album of 2014). I would find it a weird choice too if that album won Album of the Year (was actually nominated in the Americana category, but didn't win).
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
RomanCandle
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Date: February 12, 2015 13:32
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Okay start writin' ... we'll all wait here
I need to improve my English before.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
dcba
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Date: February 12, 2015 16:31
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Beyoncé has a team looking for 14 dope beats, she puts some lyrics to them and there you go.
That's very interesting cos it's basically how capitalism/big corps works these days.
They basically outsource everything they can so they don't create anything & they slap their brand name on the stuff they bought left and right... just like Beyoncé?
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
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Date: February 12, 2015 16:39
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Kanye is obnoxious, but that doesn't mean he isn't a valid artist.
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
Valid artist? What do you call Axl Rose then?
Valid doesn't equal good. Kanye SUCKS. And on top of that he's a complete... dickhead.
He seems to inspire a lot of people so although I have absolutely no interest in him or his music whatsoever, doesn't mean he isn't an artist.
Unfortunately for him, whether or not he's a good artist will always be overshadowed by his narcissistic dickheadedness. An 'entitled' stupid moron.
I agree, but just don't like the blanket fossilized 'new=music=sucks' mantra that some older fans throw out there to every young artist who isn't Ryan Adams or some other 'indie' fave.
KW may not be to everyone's taste, but to suggest that Lou Reed was 'joking' about his admiration for Yeezus is absurd and the height of old fart delusion.
Besides, I really wanted to give a shout-out to Miranda Lambert!
Completely agree on the bolded point.
and...MIRANDA!!!
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
mr_dja
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Date: February 12, 2015 17:08
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Beyoncé has a team looking for 14 dope beats, she puts some lyrics to them and there you go.
That's very interesting cos it's basically how capitalism/big corps works these days.
They basically outsource everything they can so they don't create anything & they slap their brand name on the stuff they bought left and right... just like Beyoncé?
Although some of your generalizations on "corporations" may stretch things a bit, I wouldn't disagree at all if someone were to say that the JayZ/Beyoncé "family business" is, in fact, a MAJOR corporation. It must be difficult for some of these celebrities to keep an "image of self" when they are also the "product" that their business sells.
Peace,
Mr DJA
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: February 12, 2015 17:46
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Kanye is obnoxious, but that doesn't mean he isn't a valid artist.
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
Valid artist? What do you call Axl Rose then?
Valid doesn't equal good. Kanye SUCKS. And on top of that he's a complete... dickhead.
He seems to inspire a lot of people so although I have absolutely no interest in him or his music whatsoever, doesn't mean he isn't an artist.
Unfortunately for him, whether or not he's a good artist will always be overshadowed by his narcissistic dickheadedness. An 'entitled' stupid moron.
I agree, but just don't like the blanket fossilized 'new=music=sucks' mantra that some older fans throw out there to every young artist who isn't Ryan Adams or some other 'indie' fave.
KW may not be to everyone's taste, but to suggest that Lou Reed was 'joking' about his admiration for Yeezus is absurd and the height of old fart delusion.
Besides, I really wanted to give a shout-out to Miranda Lambert!
In one aspect you're spot on - not all new music sucks. Or however you want to put it. It's just that when someone is clearly talentless and a complete moron, like Kanye West, that doesn't mean one is an old fart by rote because they don't like them/it/him/her. It just means he sucks. If you want to defend his stance as an artist and blah blah blah it comes off as shining a turd. Calling Kanye West an artist is a defiling of the term artist. You might as well say Mark Gormley is just as much of an artist as Kanye West.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
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Date: February 12, 2015 18:18
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Kanye is obnoxious, but that doesn't mean he isn't a valid artist.
I laugh when fans of groups like the Stones sneer at younger artists for being arrogant or entititled..
That's funny to me.
Anyway, my favorite Grammy performance was Miranda Lambert kicking ass...
Valid artist? What do you call Axl Rose then?
Valid doesn't equal good. Kanye SUCKS. And on top of that he's a complete... dickhead.
He seems to inspire a lot of people so although I have absolutely no interest in him or his music whatsoever, doesn't mean he isn't an artist.
Unfortunately for him, whether or not he's a good artist will always be overshadowed by his narcissistic dickheadedness. An 'entitled' stupid moron.
I agree, but just don't like the blanket fossilized 'new=music=sucks' mantra that some older fans throw out there to every young artist who isn't Ryan Adams or some other 'indie' fave.
KW may not be to everyone's taste, but to suggest that Lou Reed was 'joking' about his admiration for Yeezus is absurd and the height of old fart delusion.
Besides, I really wanted to give a shout-out to Miranda Lambert!
In one aspect you're spot on - not all new music sucks. Or however you want to put it. It's just that when someone is clearly talentless and a complete moron, like Kanye West, that doesn't mean one is an old fart by rote because they don't like them/it/him/her. It just means he sucks. If you want to defend his stance as an artist and blah blah blah it comes off as shining a turd. Calling Kanye West an artist is a defiling of the term artist. You might as well say Mark Gormley is just as much of an artist as Kanye West.
Why?
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: February 12, 2015 18:28
READ. You'll see why.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
treaclefingers
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Date: February 13, 2015 00:44
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omg that was good.
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Posted by:
Aquamarine
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Date: February 13, 2015 01:05
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It's just that when someone is clearly talentless and a complete moron,
Moron, yes. COMPLETE moron, no. Because, clearly talented at a. music, b. self-publicity, c. music, d. making money, by selling lots of e. music.
Extremely flawed genius, like most of them.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
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RomanCandle
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Date: February 13, 2015 01:34
College Dropout is dope!
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
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treaclefingers
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Date: February 13, 2015 03:54
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It's just that when someone is clearly talentless and a complete moron,
Moron, yes. COMPLETE moron, no. Because, clearly talented at a. music, b. self-publicity, c. music, d. making money, by selling lots of e. music.
Extremely flawed genius, like most of them.
On that basis, I guess his wife is also a genius.
Re: OT: American Grammy Awards
Posted by:
Wry Cooter
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Date: February 13, 2015 06:19
What would Keith had done if Kanye stormed on his stage?
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