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Do you mean that Zappa repeated themes just like he deliberately re-arranged the black page "the hard version" into the "teen age version"? I don't think the Stones ever used that way of repeating themes/songs, although every musician/composer has a musical signature that reveals his identity.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-07 23:58 by LuxuryStones.
Two favorites of me and my sisters....
That's pretty good, agreed.
"If you really want to be my friend", "Let it loose" and even a bit of "Shine a light" would be the ones I'd put forth, a 3some.
I think "Moonlight Mile" and "Winter" definitely do work together, both around 5 minutes long, similar pace, MM is the last song, Winter is towards the end., both have almost an oriental tempo to them. Sort of dreamy songs.
I thought Sway paired up with some song well but I can't remember which right now.
Agreed with whomever mentioned "All Down The Line" and "Silver Train", both songs I've long liked.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-09 10:06 by BroomWagon.
This is interesting. I am trying to see the Saintof Me/sweet Home Chicago connect.
Now that you mention the song though:-Sympathy- Wandering Spirit -Saint of me - Laugh I nearly Died
Thanks for taking an interest, Palace Rev! In fact I dreamed that Saint/Chicago tie-in several years ago,
and it's tattooed on my psyche now. Let me see if I can sing it for you ...
"Augustine knew temptation, he loved women, wine and song
And all the special pleasures of doing something wrong
I say yeah - baby don't you want to go
Back to the land of California, to my sweet home Chicago
Now one and one is two, two and two is four
I'm heavy loaded baby - I'm booked I gotta go
I say yeah - oh yeah, oh yeah
You'll never make a saint of me"
Something like that anyway! :E
Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away
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Sister Songs
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
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Date: February 7, 2015 21:56
I was thinking about this earlier. In any great song catalog a writer will establish patterns. Someone like Frank Zappa often repeated themes on purpose. But most artists I believe abhor this idea. I don't think, or I hope, that Jagger and Keith didn't re-write "Soul Survivor" on purpose in 83.
But there are 'good' parallel songs. I hear "Can you hear the Music" and "Feel on Baby" as sister songs.
Other similar vibes might come from sequencing. I ahve always thought that the Stones love to throw the short, more light hearted song second to last.
From "Factory Girl" to "Break the Spell" to "Dead Flowers". From "All the Way Down" to "Too Tight" to "She So Cold" to "Had it With You".
Anyone else see parallels like this?
But there are 'good' parallel songs. I hear "Can you hear the Music" and "Feel on Baby" as sister songs.
Other similar vibes might come from sequencing. I ahve always thought that the Stones love to throw the short, more light hearted song second to last.
From "Factory Girl" to "Break the Spell" to "Dead Flowers". From "All the Way Down" to "Too Tight" to "She So Cold" to "Had it With You".
Anyone else see parallels like this?
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
NICOS
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Date: February 7, 2015 23:34
I try to figure out what you mean with "as sister songs".....................I know my sister loved The Bee Gees......
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Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
LuxuryStones
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Date: February 7, 2015 23:52
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Palace Revolution 2000
I was thinking about this earlier. In any great song catalog a writer will establish patterns. Someone like Frank Zappa often repeated themes on purpose. But most artists I believe abhor this idea. I don't think, or I hope, that Jagger and Keith didn't re-write "Soul Survivor" on purpose in 83.
But there are 'good' parallel songs. I hear "Can you hear the Music" and "Feel on Baby" as sister songs.
Other similar vibes might come from sequencing. I ahve always thought that the Stones love to throw the short, more light hearted song second to last.
From "Factory Girl" to "Break the Spell" to "Dead Flowers". From "All the Way Down" to "Too Tight" to "She So Cold" to "Had it With You".
Anyone else see parallels like this?
Do you mean that Zappa repeated themes just like he deliberately re-arranged the black page "the hard version" into the "teen age version"? I don't think the Stones ever used that way of repeating themes/songs, although every musician/composer has a musical signature that reveals his identity.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-07 23:58 by LuxuryStones.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
latebloomer
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Date: February 7, 2015 23:56
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NICOS
I try to figure out what you mean with "as sister songs"....
Two favorites of me and my sisters....
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: February 8, 2015 00:14
You might consider all of Keith's open tuning intros and riffs as sisters. That hammering on to the 4th chord was prevalent in so many songs. I recall Waddy Wachtel saying even Keith got them mixed up since they were so similar.
As far as song themes being sisters I think the list is much smaller although they did get a lot of mileage off traditional blues themes. peace
As far as song themes being sisters I think the list is much smaller although they did get a lot of mileage off traditional blues themes. peace
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: February 8, 2015 00:25
Brown Sugar and Sad Sad Sad.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
zumabitch
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Date: February 8, 2015 01:36
“Send it to me” and “Neighbors” are very similar in some parts, at least in the vocal melody. Probably it was more a matter of “unconscious contamination”, being the two albums very close chronologically.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
shadooby
()
Date: February 8, 2015 02:15
As I've stated before...It Must Be Hell is the combination of Rock and a Hard Place and Honky Tonk Women.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
winter
()
Date: February 8, 2015 02:44
Almost Hear You Sigh was referred to by the band as a relative of Beast of Burden. Not sure if they were sisters.
Soul Survivor/It Must Be Hell/Rock and a Hard Place, Sleep Tonight/Slipping Away, Dear Doctor/Faraway Eyes?
Soul Survivor/It Must Be Hell/Rock and a Hard Place, Sleep Tonight/Slipping Away, Dear Doctor/Faraway Eyes?
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: February 8, 2015 03:13
....man that'd be one weird chick ....
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: February 8, 2015 03:13
Too Tough/Fight
Almost Hear You Sigh/Beast Of Burden
Coming Down Again/Sleep Tonight
Lady Jane/New Faces
Miss You/Emotional Rescue
Almost Hear You Sigh/Beast Of Burden
Coming Down Again/Sleep Tonight
Lady Jane/New Faces
Miss You/Emotional Rescue
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
camper88
()
Date: February 8, 2015 14:54
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-28 15:18 by camper88.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-28 15:18 by camper88.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
with sssoul
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Date: February 8, 2015 15:08
Surprise Surprise / Mean Disposition
Saint of Me / Sweet Home Chicago
Already Over Me / Always Suffering
Running Too Deep / Will But You Won't
Saint of Me / Sweet Home Chicago
Already Over Me / Always Suffering
Running Too Deep / Will But You Won't
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
camper88
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Date: February 8, 2015 23:46
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-28 15:17 by camper88.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-28 15:17 by camper88.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
stonehearted
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Date: February 9, 2015 00:27
I take the "sister songs" tag to mean in terms of riffs. Jumping Jack Flash is said to be the "Satisfaction riff in reverse". Also, the main riff of Rough Justice seems to be a reworking of the Brown Sugar main riff.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
NICOS
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Date: February 9, 2015 00:33
Now I get it............
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Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
Come On
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Date: February 9, 2015 08:57
I'll wait until brother songs comes on the wall.....
... and jumping the gun with 'Brothers in Arms'...
2 1 2 0
... and jumping the gun with 'Brothers in Arms'...
2 1 2 0
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
BroomWagon
()
Date: February 9, 2015 09:07
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Thommie
Live With Me and Bitch.
That's pretty good, agreed.
"If you really want to be my friend", "Let it loose" and even a bit of "Shine a light" would be the ones I'd put forth, a 3some.
I think "Moonlight Mile" and "Winter" definitely do work together, both around 5 minutes long, similar pace, MM is the last song, Winter is towards the end., both have almost an oriental tempo to them. Sort of dreamy songs.
I thought Sway paired up with some song well but I can't remember which right now.
Agreed with whomever mentioned "All Down The Line" and "Silver Train", both songs I've long liked.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2015-02-09 10:06 by BroomWagon.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: February 9, 2015 10:20
Quote
with sssoul
Surprise Surprise / Mean Disposition
Saint of Me / Sweet Home Chicago
Already Over Me / Always Suffering
Running Too Deep / Will But You Won't
This is interesting. I am trying to see the Saintof Me/sweet Home Chicago connect.
Now that you mention the song though:-Sympathy- Wandering Spirit -Saint of me - Laugh I nearly Died
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
FeelTheFire
()
Date: February 9, 2015 10:45
I Got The Blues & Let It Loose
Gimme Shelter & Dancing With Mr. D
Wicked As It Seems & Love Is Strong
Gimme Shelter & Dancing With Mr. D
Wicked As It Seems & Love Is Strong
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
marcovandereijk
()
Date: February 9, 2015 12:50
I thought Keith referred to those songs as "cousins" somewhere in an interview.
Related they are, anyway.
Sister Morphine and Family sound like cousins to me.
Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away
Related they are, anyway.
Sister Morphine and Family sound like cousins to me.
Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
pepganzo
()
Date: February 9, 2015 22:33
No expectations - Love in vain
Salt of the earth - you cant always get
Bitch - monkey man
Live with me - cant you hear me
Dear doctor-country ogni
Hide your love - short and curlies
Salt of the earth - you cant always get
Bitch - monkey man
Live with me - cant you hear me
Dear doctor-country ogni
Hide your love - short and curlies
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 10, 2015 11:40
<Salt of the earth - you cant always get>
That's a good observation.
That's a good observation.
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: February 10, 2015 11:58
Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
This is interesting. I am trying to see the Saint of Me/Sweet Home Chicago connect.
Thanks for taking an interest, Palace Rev! In fact I dreamed that Saint/Chicago tie-in several years ago,
and it's tattooed on my psyche now. Let me see if I can sing it for you ...
"Augustine knew temptation, he loved women, wine and song
And all the special pleasures of doing something wrong
I say yeah - baby don't you want to go
Back to the land of California, to my sweet home Chicago
Now one and one is two, two and two is four
I'm heavy loaded baby - I'm booked I gotta go
I say yeah - oh yeah, oh yeah
You'll never make a saint of me"
Something like that anyway! :E
Re: Sister Songs
Posted by:
marcovandereijk
()
Date: February 10, 2015 14:07
Quote
with sssoulQuote
Palace Revolution 2000
This is interesting. I am trying to see the Saint of Me/Sweet Home Chicago connect.
Thanks for taking an interest, Palace Rev! In fact I dreamed that Saint/Chicago tie-in several years ago,
and it's tattooed on my psyche now. Let me see if I can sing it for you ...
"Augustine knew temptation, he loved women, wine and song
And all the special pleasures of doing something wrong
I say yeah - baby don't you want to go
Back to the land of California, to my sweet home Chicago
Now one and one is two, two and two is four
I'm heavy loaded baby - I'm booked I gotta go
I say yeah - oh yeah, oh yeah
You'll never make a saint of me"
Something like that anyway! :E
Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away
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