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dcba
He takes himself rather seriously, doesn't he?
I saved Mayall...... I (with Wyman and Watts) contributed to the skeletons of songs brought by Jagger & Richards... etc etc...
Methinks part of the reason he joined the Stones was he thought he could easily take the leadership of the band as MT thought (rightly so?) that he was by far the most skilled musician in the band.
Well that plan didn't go down too well, Taylor hit a concrete wall as M&Keef kept a strong leadership of the band and only used Taylor sparsely... (and they robbed him blind on a few song credits).
Methinks part of the reason he quit the Stones was the realization he had failed miserably, that he would remain a sideman in the band.
"Do that, play this, stop here" could sum up his time in the band...
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dcba
He takes himself rather seriously, doesn't he?
I saved Mayall...... I (with Wyman and Watts) contributed to the skeletons of songs brought by Jagger & Richards... etc etc...
Methinks part of the reason he joined the Stones was he thought he could easily take the leadership of the band as MT thought (rightly so?) that he was by far the most skilled musician in the band.
Well that plan didn't go down too well, Taylor hit a concrete wall as M&Keef kept a strong leadership of the band and only used Taylor sparsely... (and they robbed him blind on a few song credits).
Methinks part of the reason he quit the Stones was the realization he had failed miserably, that he would remain a sideman in the band.
"Do that, play this, stop here" could sum up his time in the band...
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dcba
He takes himself rather seriously, doesn't he?
I saved Mayall...... I (with Wyman and Watts) contributed to the skeletons of songs brought by Jagger & Richards... etc etc...
Methinks part of the reason he joined the Stones was he thought he could easily take the leadership of the band as MT thought (rightly so?) that he was by far the most skilled musician in the band.
Well that plan didn't go down too well, Taylor hit a concrete wall as M&Keef kept a strong leadership of the band and only used Taylor sparsely... (and they robbed him blind on a few song credits).
Methinks part of the reason he quit the Stones was the realization he had failed miserably, that he would remain a sideman in the band.
"Do that, play this, stop here" could sum up his time in the band...
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dcba
He takes himself rather seriously, doesn't he?
I saved Mayall...... I (with Wyman and Watts) contributed to the skeletons of songs brought by Jagger & Richards... etc etc...
Methinks part of the reason he joined the Stones was he thought he could easily take the leadership of the band as MT thought (rightly so?) that he was by far the most skilled musician in the band.
Well that plan didn't go down too well, Taylor hit a concrete wall as M&Keef kept a strong leadership of the band and only used Taylor sparsely... (and they robbed him blind on a few song credits).
Methinks part of the reason he quit the Stones was the realization he had failed miserably, that he would remain a sideman in the band.
"Do that, play this, stop here" could sum up his time in the band...
What a load of utter tosh!
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dcba
Thank you Strat!
And keep on believing the foggy official version!
"In fact I don't really know why I left the band... I wanted to get away from the drugs..." [that's why you went on playing with Jack "Mr Clean" Bruce]
That's funny how poeple think b&w terms : the winner always has dark impure thouhgts and the loser (Taylor) is a pure innocent lamb.
I'm sure Taylor had a certain ambition when he joined the band (turning the band into a vehicle for his music and his musical style). He certainly didn't plan to be a "Do that, play this, stop here" kinda player, but he eventually became one...
Fyi Nick Kent has an even sinister take on MT's departure. By late 1974 Taylor thought the band was dead and he reckoned "better leave the ship now, before it completely sinks". Remember Keef was dope-sick, IORR wasn"t very good and the Stones had been around for TEN years which seemed like a century back then.
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dcba
He takes himself rather seriously, doesn't he?
I saved Mayall...... I (with Wyman and Watts) contributed to the skeletons of songs brought by Jagger & Richards... etc etc...
Methinks part of the reason he joined the Stones was he thought he could easily take the leadership of the band as MT thought (rightly so?) that he was by far the most skilled musician in the band.
Well that plan didn't go down too well, Taylor hit a concrete wall as M&Keef kept a strong leadership of the band and only used Taylor sparsely... (and they robbed him blind on a few song credits).
Methinks part of the reason he quit the Stones was the realization he had failed miserably, that he would remain a sideman in the band.
"Do that, play this, stop here" could sum up his time in the band...
Welcome to the board Keith!
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dcba
Thank you Strat!
And keep on believing the foggy official version!
"In fact I don't really know why I left the band... I wanted to get away from the drugs..." [that's why you went on playing with Jack "Mr Clean" Bruce]
That's funny how poeple think b&w terms : the winner always has dark impure thouhgts and the loser (Taylor) is a pure innocent lamb.
I'm sure Taylor had a certain ambition when he joined the band (turning the band into a vehicle for his music and his musical style). He certainly didn't plan to be a "Do that, play this, stop here" kinda player, but he eventually became one...
Fyi Nick Kent has an even sinister take on MT's departure. By late 1974 Taylor thought the band was dead and he reckoned "better leave the ship now, before it completely sinks". Remember Keef was dope-sick, IORR wasn"t very good and the Stones had been around for TEN years which seemed like a century back then.
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That's funny. Taylor was like what, 20-21 when he joined? What 21 year old thinks: "I'm going to take over the greatest rock and roll band!" He didn't even know he was going to be asked, he played as a session guy and was surprised he was invited. If anybody is thinking in B&W it's you. The truth lies somewhere in between your rubbish and the people that think Taylor was "abused" or something. He got fed up, that's all. The Stones were stagnant and not touring and Taylor was the youngest and had more fire than the others to go out and play shows. He also wanted to play a different style of music, and I think he did that on his solo album. People act like it is wrong for a musician to want to do their own thing. Oh, and as I recall his drug comment was many years later in retrospect, saying if he had stayed he would have died.
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dcba
He takes himself rather seriously, doesn't he?
I saved Mayall...... I (with Wyman and Watts) contributed to the skeletons of songs brought by Jagger & Richards... etc etc...
Methinks part of the reason he joined the Stones was he thought he could easily take the leadership of the band as MT thought (rightly so?) that he was by far the most skilled musician in the band.
Well that plan didn't go down too well, Taylor hit a concrete wall as M&Keef kept a strong leadership of the band and only used Taylor sparsely... (and they robbed him blind on a few song credits).
Methinks part of the reason he quit the Stones was the realization he had failed miserably, that he would remain a sideman in the band.
"Do that, play this, stop here" could sum up his time in the band...
No way Mick thought he was going to lead the Stones, musically or otherwise. That is preposterous!
As far as the band collectively contributing to the skeletons of songs brought in by Mick and Keith.....I think that's pretty well documented, Mick and Keith surely didn't do it by themselves. I don't think generally that Keith told MT specifically what to play, he obviously had his own style and pulled off plenty of stuff that was out of Keith's realm of playing.
I think the interview was just done when Taylor was feeling good, probably high on his drug(s) of choice and that's why he comes off as a bit more confident than usual.
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Redhotcarpet
Yes and he came to that conclusion the minute he was shown the LP cover of iorr without the co-credits he was promised. By a journalist. After MT told him he'd finally get a couple of co-credits on that album. I thiunk he was young, v e r y gifted but also naive.
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Redhotcarpet
Yes and he came to that conclusion the minute he was shown the LP cover of iorr without the co-credits he was promised. By a journalist. After MT told him he'd finally get a couple of co-credits on that album. I thiunk he was young, v e r y gifted but also naive.
That "minute" lasted for two months...
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Redhotcarpet
Yes and he came to that conclusion the minute he was shown the LP cover of iorr without the co-credits he was promised. By a journalist. After MT told him he'd finally get a couple of co-credits on that album. I thiunk he was young, v e r y gifted but also naive.
That "minute" lasted for two months...
Yes and I dont believe that was the only reason either. I think he would have stayed if he'd accepted how things were run by the boss and the bosses partner. This probably explains why Ronnie stayed in the band. He accepted the rules and he accepted being Keith's...something.
I'm a huge Keith-fan (his music and that 1970s lifestyle and image) but getting older means you look at things differently after all.
I think the reason Taylor quit has more to do with Keith's personality than anything else.
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dcba
Fyi Nick Kent has an even sinister take on MT's departure. By late 1974 Taylor thought the band was dead and he reckoned "better leave the ship now, before it completely sinks". Remember Keef was dope-sick, IORR wasn"t very good and the Stones had been around for TEN years which seemed like a century back then.
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Redhotcarpet
Yes and he came to that conclusion the minute he was shown the LP cover of iorr without the co-credits he was promised. By a journalist. After MT told him he'd finally get a couple of co-credits on that album. I thiunk he was young, v e r y gifted but also naive.
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Redhotcarpet
Yes and he came to that conclusion the minute he was shown the LP cover of iorr without the co-credits he was promised. By a journalist. After MT told him he'd finally get a couple of co-credits on that album. I thiunk he was young, v e r y gifted but also naive.
It had been building and this was the final straw. He would have stayed otherwise, for a least a few more years.