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My interpretation.....The guilt and shame of heavy drug abuse both there's and my own. Which is why it is actually painful for me to listen to it. The wasted time, the wasted money. The sad empty lives that are brought together to try and escape their reality and numb their pain.

I always thought that "Some who broke me up with the corner of her smile" was a young child who woke at her regular time and wandered into her parents drug den naively not knowing what they are doing and smiling at them and the parents deep shame and regret of their lifestyle choice.

I remember when Jerry Garcia died. The American writer William Buckly wrote 'Don't feel bad for him, he took plenty of people with him". That quote stuck a nerve on me because it reminded me of Sticky Fingers and in particular Sway.

Bottom line.....I loved it years ago. I grew out of it and moved on. Its why I like Emotional more than Sticky. Think I'll go listen to 'Send it me" now....

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MisterO
My interpretation.....The guilt and shame of heavy drug abuse both there's and my own. Which is why it is actually painful for me to listen to it. The wasted time, the wasted money. The sad empty lives that are brought together to try and escape their reality and numb their pain.

I always thought that "Some who broke me up with the coyrner of her smile" was a young child who woke at her regular time and wandered into her parents drug den naively not knowing what they are doing and smiling at them and the parents deep shame and regret of their lifestyle choice.

I remember when Jerry Garcia died. The American writer William Buckly wrote 'Don't feel bad for him, he took plenty of people with him". That quote stuck a nerve on me because it reminded me of Sticky Fingers and in particular Sway.

Bottom line.....I loved it years ago. I grew out of it and moved on. Its why I like Emotional more than Sticky. Think I'll go listen to 'Send it me" now....

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MisterO
My interpretation.....The guilt and shame of heavy drug abuse both there's and my own. Which is why it is actually painful for me to listen to it. The wasted time, the wasted money. The sad empty lives that are brought together to try and escape their reality and numb their pain.

I always thought that "Some who broke me up with the corner of her smile" was a young child who woke at her regular time and wandered into her parents drug den naively not knowing what they are doing and smiling at them and the parents deep shame and regret of their lifestyle choice.

I remember when Jerry Garcia died. The American writer William Buckly wrote 'Don't feel bad for him, he took plenty of people with him". That quote stuck a nerve on me because it reminded me of Sticky Fingers and in particular Sway.

Bottom line.....I loved it years ago. I grew out of it and moved on. Its why I like Emotional more than Sticky. Think I'll go listen to 'Send it me" now....

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Maindefender
Great song from their best album. Has Keith ever talked about his limited involvement? Did he take a musical direction role even though he didn't play? His background vocals are outstanding.....

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Maindefender
Great song from their best album. Has Keith ever talked about his limited involvement? Did he take a musical direction role even though he didn't play? His background vocals are outstanding.....

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One word: EPIC
In every way.

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Most substantial non-hit, non-warhorse in their entire catalogue and better than anything this side of Exile (and most of Exile).

I hope I'm not under selling it.

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Another, more recent Taylor quote from 2011 (timeisonourside.com again):

I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song. I don't think Keith's on it. It had a great, loose feel. Mick played rhythm guitar on that. He's a great rhythm player. My theory is he has a natural feel and that's also why he's such a great dancer.

- Doxa

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During the "Ya-Ya's" deluxe performance of "I'm Free" Taylor plays a sweet little 20 second solo that is astonishing in the history of the band in that it breaks new ground: The band is now capable of musical moments of great beauty. Early in the tour Taylor seemed to step on Jagger's lyrics during LIV, but by the time the band got to Baltimore Jagger's voice and Taylor's notes were in synch. Jagger picked up on all of that and Sway is a product of the band's new found power, finesse, touch, sophistication...however you want to describe it.

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Great song from their best album. Has Keith ever talked about his limited involvement? Did he take a musical direction role even though he didn't play? His background vocals are outstanding.....

I heard that Pete Townshend and Ronnie Lane contributed to the background vocals as well, although not listed in the credits above.

peace

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Another, more recent Taylor quote from 2011 (timeisonourside.com again):

I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song. I don't think Keith's on it. It had a great, loose feel. Mick played rhythm guitar on that. He's a great rhythm player. My theory is he has a natural feel and that's also why he's such a great dancer.

- Doxa

I totally agree with MT above, but here's Keith in GUITAR WORLD:

GUITAR WORLD: "How do you rate Mick Jagger as a guitar player?"

KEITH: "On acoustic, he's a damned good rhythm player. I'd never let him play electric if I could help it... ... No sense of electric at all..."

GW: "SWAY is Mick on electric."

KEITH: "Yeah... Well, like I say, acoustically he's got a nice touch. It doesn't translate electrically. It's not his thing. It's not everybody's cup of tea."

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Great song from their best album. Has Keith ever talked about his limited involvement? Did he take a musical direction role even though he didn't play? His background vocals are outstanding.....

I heard that Pete Townshend and Ronnie Lane contributed to the background vocals as well, although not listed in the credits above.

peace

PT sings on Slave. Ronnie Lane on In Another Land (with Marriot).

Haven't heard about those two contributing to anything else on Stones records.

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Maindefender
Great song from their best album. Has Keith ever talked about his limited involvement? Did he take a musical direction role even though he didn't play? His background vocals are outstanding.....

I heard that Pete Townshend and Ronnie Lane contributed to the background vocals as well, although not listed in the credits above.

peace

PT sings on Slave. Ronnie Lane on In Another Land (with Marriot).

Haven't heard about those two contributing to anything else on Stones records.

Well, not me either, but timeisonourside.com claims - I just noticed - that background vocals are done by Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Pete Townshend, Ronnie Lane & Billy Nicholls. Total news to me, since my ears only tend to hear Jagger and Richards, and it has never occurred to me that there could be anyone else. Probably time to give it another listen.

- Doxa

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Doxa

Another, more recent Taylor quote from 2011 (timeisonourside.com again):

I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song. I don't think Keith's on it. It had a great, loose feel. Mick played rhythm guitar on that. He's a great rhythm player. My theory is he has a natural feel and that's also why he's such a great dancer.

- Doxa

I totally agree with MT above, but here's Keith in GUITAR WORLD:

GUITAR WORLD: "How do you rate Mick Jagger as a guitar player?"

KEITH: "On acoustic, he's a damned good rhythm player. I'd never let him play electric if I could help it... ... No sense of electric at all..."

GW: "SWAY is Mick on electric."

KEITH: "Yeah... Well, like I say, acoustically he's got a nice touch. It doesn't translate electrically. It's not his thing. It's not everybody's cup of tea."

I think Keith is referring to Mick's choice of sound, which generally is a bit iffy, imo. Sway, Some Girls and Stop Breakin' Down are exceptions, though.

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Doxa

Another, more recent Taylor quote from 2011 (timeisonourside.com again):

I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song. I don't think Keith's on it. It had a great, loose feel. Mick played rhythm guitar on that. He's a great rhythm player. My theory is he has a natural feel and that's also why he's such a great dancer.

- Doxa

I totally agree with MT above, but here's Keith in GUITAR WORLD:

GUITAR WORLD: "How do you rate Mick Jagger as a guitar player?"

KEITH: "On acoustic, he's a damned good rhythm player. I'd never let him play electric if I could help it... ... No sense of electric at all..."

GW: "SWAY is Mick on electric."

KEITH: "Yeah... Well, like I say, acoustically he's got a nice touch. It doesn't translate electrically. It's not his thing. It's not everybody's cup of tea."

I think Keith is referring to Mick's choice of sound, which generally is a bit iffy, imo. Sway, Some Girls and Stop Breakin' Down are exceptions, though.

Always liked this interview: good journalist. And this part is brilliant: the fearless pirate is caught loaded with fear & jealousy and talking bs.

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That's interesting, as the album liner notes say nothing about that. Can't hear any more vocals on it either...

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DandelionPowderman
That's interesting, as the album liner notes say nothing about that. Can't hear any more vocals on it either...

Dande dear, would you consider writing to Ian McPherson to ask about his sources for that?
Sway and Slave are mighty similar words that might be easy to confuse if someone's working from memory
and discussing a number that might not even have had a title at the time. (I don't mean McPherson!
but rather someone who's not a full-time Stones fan, during an interview or whatever)

Sort of like how a phone interviewer heard Keith say he listens to a lot of Motley Crew
when what he said was Mozart

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During the "Ya-Ya's" deluxe performance of "I'm Free" Taylor plays a sweet little 20 second solo that is astonishing in the history of the band in that it breaks new ground: The band is now capable of musical moments of great beauty. Early in the tour Taylor seemed to step on Jagger's lyrics during LIV, but by the time the band got to Baltimore Jagger's voice and Taylor's notes were in synch. Jagger picked up on all of that and Sway is a product of the band's new found power, finesse, touch, sophistication...however you want to describe it.

They were capable of musical moments of great beauty already by 1966.

Paint It Black was groundbreaking. Not so sure whether the fusion solo in I'm Free was of the same importance for the band.

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Doxa

Another, more recent Taylor quote from 2011 (timeisonourside.com again):

I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song. I don't think Keith's on it. It had a great, loose feel. Mick played rhythm guitar on that. He's a great rhythm player. My theory is he has a natural feel and that's also why he's such a great dancer.

- Doxa

I totally agree with MT above, but here's Keith in GUITAR WORLD:

GUITAR WORLD: "How do you rate Mick Jagger as a guitar player?"

KEITH: "On acoustic, he's a damned good rhythm player. I'd never let him play electric if I could help it... ... No sense of electric at all..."

GW: "SWAY is Mick on electric."

KEITH: "Yeah... Well, like I say, acoustically he's got a nice touch. It doesn't translate electrically. It's not his thing. It's not everybody's cup of tea."

I think Keith is referring to Mick's choice of sound, which generally is a bit iffy, imo. Sway, Some Girls and Stop Breakin' Down are exceptions, though.

Always liked this interview: good journalist. And this part is brilliant: the fearless pirate is caught loaded with fear & jealousy and talking bs.

How? Sounds like a quick rebound to me.

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To me, it seems that you get annoyed by Keith's behaviour, and that this is shining a bit too much through in your arguments.

I love MJ's playing on many tracks, and I'm above average when it comes to judging guitar playing.

That said, MJ has made some strange choices over the years regarding sound - especially from 1989 and on. Sad Sad Sad, Rock And A Hard Place, Miss You live come to mind.

There's nothing wrong whatsoever with his playing on Sway or Stop Breakin' Down, as I mentioned. Add Back Of My Hand to that list, btw. But he is a basic rhythm player with a very limited right hand.

It's not hard to find loads of Mick-compliments from Keith. This time, I'm leaning to belive that he really found Mick a limited player round 1970. Later on (80s) he said that Mick had become great.

For you that may be "Jekyll And Hyde"-behaviour, but for others it might mean that Keith thought Mick evolved to be a better guitarist.

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To me, it seems that you get annoyed by Keith's behaviour, and that this is shining a bit too much through in your arguments.

I love MJ's playing on many tracks, and I'm above average when it comes to judging guitar playing.

That said, MJ has made some strange choices over the years regarding sound - especially from 1989 and on. Sad Sad Sad, Rock And A Hard Place, Miss You live come to mind.

There's nothing wrong whatsoever with his playing on Sway or Stop Breakin' Down, as I mentioned. Add Back Of My Hand to that list, btw. But he is a basic rhythm player with a very limited right hand.

It's not hard to find loads of Mick-compliments from Keith. This time, I'm leaning to belive that he really found Mick a limited player round 1970. Later on (80s) he said that Mick had become great.

For you that may be "Jekyll And Hyde"-behaviour, but for others it might mean that Keith thought Mick evolved to be a better guitarist.

The quotes are from 2002...so KR had MJ evolve from great in the 80s to "yeah...well...it's not his thing."
I'm mentioning KR's behaviour which I find increasingly strange lately (when seeing and reading interviews chronologically) just as how people are defending all his 'not accurate' views which are in most cases deliberately insulting bs. When mentioning or analyzing negative behaviour that other people cheer (because they're a fan of the person with that behaviour and refuse to see how negative it is) you often see that people get annoyed and project that to the person who just tries to analyze and mentioning...
Now let me say again I always like his jokes...so cheer up!
And it's not about you...another cheer up!

(OT) Hej, do you guys up north quit smoking or drinking on January 1 by the way?

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Santana did some of that stuff the year before, Mike. I'm sure there were others as well - mixing in some latin and jazz in their rock solos, like Taylor did here.

Good stuff, but nothing groundbreaking or earth-shattering about it, imo. But indeed a taste of what to come on SF and IORR.

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Great song from their best album. Has Keith ever talked about his limited involvement? Did he take a musical direction role even though he didn't play? His background vocals are outstanding.....

I heard that Pete Townshend and Ronnie Lane contributed to the background vocals as well, although not listed in the credits above.

peace

PT sings on Slave. Ronnie Lane on In Another Land (with Marriot).

Haven't heard about those two contributing to anything else on Stones records.

Well, not me either, but timeisonourside.com claims - I just noticed - that background vocals are done by Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Pete Townshend, Ronnie Lane & Billy Nicholls. Total news to me, since my ears only tend to hear Jagger and Richards, and it has never occurred to me that there could be anyone else. Probably time to give it another listen.

- Doxa