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Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: December 28, 2014 18:21

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Two bombshells in a row! This board amazes me sometimes.

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I am working on the DVD project

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Note: All songs come from the dress-rehearsal, audience noises were mixed in.

agreed!



Maybe this has something to do with it: [www.satisfaction.dk]




26th: The Stones play before an invited audience at the Marquee Club in Soho to film two television shows, one for Britain, one for Europe. In an argument will Harold Pendleton, owner of the Marquee, Keith swings his guitar at Pendleton's head, but misses. Eventually the invited audience is thrown out by Mick Jagger because they are not showing sufficient enthusiasm for the band who, it must be said, tend to stop, start and repeat numbers with annoying regularity while the audience slopes off to the bar muttering that they'd seen better rehearsed bands in their local pubs most Saturday nights.

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: December 28, 2014 19:53

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VideoJames
I agree Marquee Show was not one of the bands best shows. I am working on the DVD project and trying to get them to use another show. What show do you know 100% they did Wild Horses? This would help in getting another 71 show used. I have offer them Wild Horses & Bitch from Top of The Pops as a bonus, hopefull they will want to use it. Marquee Show will be used regardless but another show would be good to add to the DVD. They video taped at least one other show from this tour. The final decision on what is used is up to the band in the end I can only make suggestions.
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Wow, so they exist?

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: OutOfTime ()
Date: December 28, 2014 20:31

Wooowthumbs up!!!!!!
Great and important thread. Worth a sticky!
This thread proves a STICKY FINGERS DELUXE is in the works.
Please change the Subject title, something with a "Sticky Fingers DeLuxe" reverence.hot smiley

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: December 28, 2014 20:49

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Reminds me that I miss Erik_Snow on this board. Wonder what happened to him? peace

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Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: December 28, 2014 20:54

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VideoJames
I agree Marquee Show was not one of the bands best shows. I am working on the DVD project and trying to get them to use another show. What show do you know 100% they did Wild Horses? This would help in getting another 71 show used. I have offer them Wild Horses & Bitch from Top of The Pops as a bonus, hopefull they will want to use it. Marquee Show will be used regardless but another show would be good to add to the DVD. They video taped at least one other show from this tour. The final decision on what is used is up to the band in the end I can only make suggestions.

Not sure if this helps, but there was a review of one of the shows in either the New Music Express, Sounds or Melody Maker at the time.
I remember that they mentioned some of the then unreleased songs such as Brown Sugar and Wild Horses. They also mentioned "You've got to fix it" which is obviously Bitch before the paper knew the proper titles. I cannot remember if "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" was mentioned or not.
Maybe someone has this article and you will then know when Wild Horses was indeed played.

Regarding the Top Of The Pops clips, I'd love to know where you discovered the footage. I'd heard that only "Brown Sugar" had survived as it was repeated a week after the 3 song episode which had sadly been wiped. Great to know this still exists after all.

Also, which other show was filmed?



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Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: pepganzo ()
Date: December 28, 2014 21:42

I think that the Robert Greenfield's last book about the English tour of 1971 is fantastic. He said that the concert they did in Leeds was as brilliant as some other concerts of the early days of the tour.
In the book you can also read that for RG the worst concerts were the two sets the did in Liverpool. He best one, from the other hand, was the second set in Coventry six days before the Liverpool one.

Read here (from the book)

For reasons that may have nothing whatsoever to do with Keith’s as yet still unexplained
disappearance this afternoon, the Stones do the only truly bad show of the tour. While others have
been less than perfect musically, there has always been electricity, excitement, and real contact with
the audience. Tonight there is nothing. While the set is not unrepresentative of the music the Stones
have been making on the tour and the show might actually be considered a good one by some lesser
band, the magic that makes the Rolling Stones so special when they perform onstage simply is not
there. After the show is over, the band gathers in the dressing room for a postmortem that quickly comes
to resemble the kind of group therapy session in which none of them would ever willingly participate.
Looking even sadder than usual, Bill Wyman sits on the couch staring disconsolately at the floor for
so long that Keith finally tells him, “Bill, I’m just saying, don’t be so brought down.”
“I just want everyone to say it was shit,” Bill says. “They queued for five hours and….”
“If you think it’s my fault ‘cause I missed the train,” Keith says, “just say it, Bill.”
“I do, yeah,” Bill tells him.
Still not exhibiting a shred of guilt about any of this, Keith says, “I was two minutes late at the
station. We went to the airport and the jet broke down. Then they brought in a prop and it broke
down.”
Doing her best to cheer Bill up, Astrid says, “They don’t know the difference, Bill. The audience
enjoyed themselves. It doesn’t matter to them.”
Shaking his head stubbornly from side to side, Bill says, “We were shit and you all know it.”
Trying to make everyone feel better, Bobby Keys says, “Ah was great. Ah was fantastic. Ah
carried y’all.” Although a few people smile weakly at the remark, everyone still looks just as grim as
they did before.
“It’s the house,” Keith says. “There’s no contact.”
For me, this was the night when I realized for the first time just how much the Rolling Stones
still really cared about what they were doing. As I would later see proven again and again in the
music business, great talent could only take you so far. Right from the start, both Mick and Keith
had always shared a laser-like focus on the music. Without it, the Rolling Stones could never have
stayed together long enough to be upset about having played one bad show in Liverpool.
And yes, just as I had seen them do in Coventry six nights earlier, the band then went back out
onstage for the second show and kicked ass in every way imaginable
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Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: hickorywind ()
Date: December 28, 2014 22:14

I was at the first Greens Playhouse Glasgow show on 8th March 1971 seated about 8 rows from the stage. Unfortunately my recollections are a bit vague however clearly remember Midnight Rambler (Mick crashing belt on the stage), Street Fighting Man and Love In Vain. Jim Price & Bobby Keys also stand out as this was first time I Had seen brass instruments on stage with the Stones.At the side of the stage throughout the performance was Anita Pallenberg with Marlon and also pretty sure Gram Parsons was there too.
The support band should have been the Groundhogs but they never showed up on time and they were replaced by a local Glasgow band who played several Stones covers.
Seem to remember Stones themselves arrived in Glasgow very late via British Rail.

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: December 28, 2014 22:26

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Two bombshells in a row! This board amazes me sometimes.

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I am working on the DVD project

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Note: All songs come from the dress-rehearsal, audience noises were mixed in.

agreed!

This is from Bill Wyman's book Rolling With The Stones (page 373, dutch version):
"We started packing for France. Friday 26 march we went to The Marquee Club to tape a TV-special. Keith left us waiting for 4 hours. When he finaly arrived he looked "like shite", he was dirty, unshaved and very out of it. I did not know if he had too less of too much of something.... We played Live With Me, Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Let It Rock, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch and our next single Brown Sugar.
Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Rick Greech and Andrew Oldham were all present, just like clubowner Harold Pendleton. Keith took offence on his being there, run to the front of the stage and swung his guitar at him. Mick had arqued with Pendleton before about removing the clubname above the podium.
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Maybe this has something to do with it: [www.satisfaction.dk]




26th: The Stones play before an invited audience at the Marquee Club in Soho to film two television shows, one for Britain, one for Europe. In an argument will Harold Pendleton, owner of the Marquee, Keith swings his guitar at Pendleton's head, but misses. Eventually the invited audience is thrown out by Mick Jagger because they are not showing sufficient enthusiasm for the band who, it must be said, tend to stop, start and repeat numbers with annoying regularity while the audience slopes off to the bar muttering that they'd seen better rehearsed bands in their local pubs most Saturday nights.

thumbs upLuxuryStones, KR swinging his guitar at the owner of The Marquee is a classic story. KR left the club after this I seem to remember.
Anyway I found this in another book "The Rolling Stones Chronicle" by M. Bonanno:
MARCH 26 (1971): The Rolling Stones record TWO televisionshows at The Marquee Club, their first appearance there for nearly eight years. Keith Richards swings his guitar at club owner Harold Pendleton's head but misses and so escapes a charge of grievous bodily harm.
The Rolling Stones play before an invited audience. One show for BritishTV is 28 minutes long, a second for various European TV stations runs for 52 minutes


This is from Bill Wyman's book Rolling With The Stones (page 373, dutch version):
"We started packing for France. Friday 26 march we went to The Marquee Club to tape a TV-special. Keith left us waiting for 4 hours. When he finaly arrived he looked "like shite", he was dirty, unshaved and very out of it. I did not know if he had too less of too much of something.... We played Live With Me, Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Let It Rock, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch and our next single Brown Sugar.
Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Rick Greech and Andrew Oldham were all present, just like clubowner Harold Pendleton. Keith took offence on his being there, run to the front of the stage and swung his guitar at him. Mick had arqued with Pendleton before about removing the clubname above the podium. [/b]



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Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: December 28, 2014 22:41

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Reminds me that I miss Erik_Snow on this board. Wonder what happened to him? peace

I have a sneaking suspicion he got kicked out here because of some of his comments on EL!

What is EL ? El Mocambo?

peace

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: December 28, 2014 23:05

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treaclefingers
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SharksWillCry
Two bombshells in a row! This board amazes me sometimes.

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VideoJames
I am working on the DVD project

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RipThisBone
Note: All songs come from the dress-rehearsal, audience noises were mixed in.

agreed!

This is from Bill Wyman's book Rolling With The Stones (page 373, dutch version):
"We started packing for France. Friday 26 march we went to The Marquee Club to tape a TV-special. Keith left us waiting for 4 hours. When he finaly arrived he looked "like shite", he was dirty, unshaved and very out of it. I did not know if he had too less of too much of something.... We played Live With Me, Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Let It Rock, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch and our next single Brown Sugar.
Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Rick Greech and Andrew Oldham were all present, just like clubowner Harold Pendleton. Keith took offence on his being there, run to the front of the stage and swung his guitar at him. Mick had arqued with Pendleton before about removing the clubname above the podium.
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Maybe this has something to do with it: [www.satisfaction.dk]




26th: The Stones play before an invited audience at the Marquee Club in Soho to film two television shows, one for Britain, one for Europe. In an argument will Harold Pendleton, owner of the Marquee, Keith swings his guitar at Pendleton's head, but misses. Eventually the invited audience is thrown out by Mick Jagger because they are not showing sufficient enthusiasm for the band who, it must be said, tend to stop, start and repeat numbers with annoying regularity while the audience slopes off to the bar muttering that they'd seen better rehearsed bands in their local pubs most Saturday nights.

thumbs upLuxuryStones, KR swinging his guitar at the owner of The Marquee is a classic story. KR left the club after this I seem to remember.
Anyway I found this in another book "The Rolling Stones Chronicle" by M. Bonanno:
MARCH 26 (1971): The Rolling Stones record TWO televisionshows at The Marquee Club, their first appearance there for nearly eight years. Keith Richards swings his guitar at club owner Harold Pendleton's head but misses and so escapes a charge of grievous bodily harm.
The Rolling Stones play before an invited audience. One show for BritishTV is 28 minutes long, a second for various European TV stations runs for 52 minutes


This is from Bill Wyman's book Rolling With The Stones (page 373, dutch version):
"We started packing for France. Friday 26 march we went to The Marquee Club to tape a TV-special. Keith left us waiting for 4 hours. When he finaly arrived he looked "like shite", he was dirty, unshaved and very out of it. I did not know if he had too less of too much of something.... We played Live With Me, Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Let It Rock, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch and our next single Brown Sugar.
Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Rick Greech and Andrew Oldham were all present, just like clubowner Harold Pendleton. Keith took offence on his being there, run to the front of the stage and swung his guitar at him. Mick had arqued with Pendleton before about removing the clubname above the podium. [/b]

Sorry for the bad copy-paste job.....

The KR swinging guitar incident is not on the bootleg DVD I justed checked. Also there is a picture in BW's book with Mick and Keith wearing different clothes.
Mick deticates Bitch to mister Pendleton non the less. Maybe it's just showbizzdrinking smiley

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: dadrob ()
Date: December 28, 2014 23:20

Glyn Johns has great stories about that night in his book Sound Man

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: December 28, 2014 23:28

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Glyn Johns has great stories about that night in his book Sound Man

Can you please tell something? I don't own this book. What happened?

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: December 28, 2014 23:29

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RipThisBone

This is from Bill Wyman's book Rolling With The Stones (page 373, dutch version)

Tony Sanchez mentioned it as well if memory serves.

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Date: December 28, 2014 23:51

Keith had a beef with Pendleton since the early 60s, when he criticised Keith's guitar skills smiling smiley

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: December 29, 2014 00:07

Marquee club sound-check, March 1971



Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: Father Ted ()
Date: December 29, 2014 12:34

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OutOfTime
Wooowthumbs up!!!!!!
Great and important thread. Worth a sticky!
This thread proves a STICKY FINGERS DELUXE is in the works.
Please change the Subject title, something with a "Sticky Fingers DeLuxe" reverence.hot smiley

Do we have confirmation that this DVD will form part of a Sticky Deluxe package or will be it be a standalone DVD a la LA Forum/Hampton? If they go for the latter, we could have the Marquee DVD + the infamous Leeds show from the same tour as the CD element.

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: falo01 ()
Date: December 29, 2014 13:48

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They video taped at least one other show from this tour.

Mr K. can you tell us which one it was?

my first guess would be that they also video taped leeds.

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Date: December 29, 2014 14:26

It's sad if those two shows are the only ones they have in decent quality from this tour/era. Both performances show an obvious decline, both in terms of playing and sound compared to Ya Yas, imo.

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: December 29, 2014 15:14

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I don't believe they ever did Wild Horses on this tour (71) at all, Keys & Wyman never mentioned it to me in coversations I had with them over the years.

The March 13 edition of Record Mirror has an article about the Newcastle concert, that I've posted on this thread. Here it is again, with a better resolution:

"Mick stood beside him, singing in the dim light, and the sound was fantastic. Following that (Prodigal Son), they bashed Midnight Rambler, Wild Horses and the incredible Honky Tonk Women."


Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: December 29, 2014 15:56

This is a great thread...should be considered for stickiness!

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: dandelion1967 ()
Date: December 29, 2014 16:43

Thank you Cristiano, your review is great! A new song called "Take me down Little Suzie". And also Prodigal son. They started the show with "Live with me", and so they did this every show on the tour? I still think Leeds doesn't start with Dead Flowers. BTW, Leeds was a very good show! Soundboard, the band played very good, Jagger sings particularly well and Nicky is clearly audible.
Hope they'll release it with improvements like Brussels.
Too bad they're trying with Marquee, not a good show at all.

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Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: muenke ()
Date: December 29, 2014 16:47

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This is a great thread...should be considered for stickiness!

I´m with you!thumbs up

And thanks to VideoJames for giving us a little "preview" of what might be the video-part of SF-Deluxe! Hopefully we will get both shows (Marquee and Leeds or what ever is the second taped Show), at least on CD!

BTW: I don´t think Marquee is that bad ... DF and I Got The Blues are great!

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Date: December 29, 2014 16:51

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Thank you Cristiano, your review is great! A new song called "Take me down Little Suzie". And also Prodigal son. They started the show with "Live with me", and so they did this every show on the tour? I still think Leeds doesn't start with Dead Flowers. BTW, Leeds was a very good show! Soundboard, the band played very good, Jagger sings particularly well and Nicky is clearly audible.
Hope they'll release it with improvements like Brussels.
Too bad they're trying with Marquee, not a good show at all.

They started the all the live shows with Jumping Jack Flash.

The Marquee wasn't a real concert, but supposedly they started that one with Live With Me.

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: December 29, 2014 17:08

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Thank you Cristiano, your review is great! A new song called "Take me down Little Suzie". And also Prodigal son.

One thing that amazes me is how the journalists from that time didn't knew the "old" Stones songs. On this review of the Roundhouse concert (March 14), the NME article (from the March 20 edition) mentions Prodigal Son as being "Poor Boy":



And here's another review, this time from NME (on the March 13 edition) about the Coventry concert (March 6), where they also played Wild Horses:





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Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Date: December 29, 2014 17:15

That "uninhibited rocker" might be CYHMK! Thanks, Cristiano thumbs up

What I don't understand is that we've had posters here who attended both these shows. But no one remembers those songs being debuted or played...

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: muenke ()
Date: December 29, 2014 17:19

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That "uninhibited rocker" might be CYHMK! Thanks, Cristiano thumbs up

What I don't understand is that we've had posters here who attended both these shows. But no one remembers those songs being debuted or played...

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Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: December 29, 2014 17:19

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DandelionPowderman
That "uninhibited rocker" might be CYHMK! Thanks, Cristiano thumbs up

What I don't understand is that we've had posters here who attended both these shows. But no one remembers those songs being debuted or played...

I think you may be right, DP. I can't think of another "uninhibited rocker" with a great sax solo by Bobby Keys. And I wonder what "obscure track from the Flowers collection" was played next to Live With Me.

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: December 29, 2014 17:22

Quote:"One thing that amazes me is how the journalists from that time didn't knew the "old" Stones songs. On this review of the Roundhouse concert (March 14), the NME article (from the March 20 edition) mentions Prodigal Son as being "Poor Boy" "

Well spoken!

What is the obscure track from the "Flowers" collection???

The "uninhibited rocker" might also be "Brown Sugar"?!?

And THANKS for the newspaper clips!

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: December 29, 2014 17:24

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That "uninhibited rocker" might be CYHMK! Thanks, Cristiano thumbs up

What I don't understand is that we've had posters here who attended both these shows. But no one remembers those songs being debuted or played...

drinking smiley
drinking smiley drinking smiley

Re: Anyone attend any of The Rolling Stones 71 UK Tour shows
Date: December 29, 2014 17:28

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DandelionPowderman
That "uninhibited rocker" might be CYHMK! Thanks, Cristiano thumbs up

What I don't understand is that we've had posters here who attended both these shows. But no one remembers those songs being debuted or played...

I think you may be right, DP. I can't think of another "uninhibited rocker" with a great sax solo by Bobby Keys. And I wonder what "obscure track from the Flowers collection" was played next to Live With Me.

Most certainly Dead Flowers eye popping smiley

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