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Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: PhillyFAN ()
Date: December 11, 2014 18:13

Nothing much to do since the end of 14 on fire. I was listening to Tumbling Dice, original studio, rehearsal and live versions. For me it captures the essence of the Stone. A mixture of blues, country, chuck berry, and soul. I especially find the Brussell's version to be the absolute best live version I have ever heard. The latter day versions are sort of flat but still enjoyable IMHO.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: December 11, 2014 18:20

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PhillyFAN
The latter day versions are sort of flat but still enjoyable IMHO.

high praise indeed

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: December 11, 2014 18:32

Quintessential Stones songs, for me, are:

1. Satisfaction
2. Jumpin' Jack Flash
3. Brown Sugar
4. Honky Tonk Women
5. Start Me Up (for better or for worse)
6. Gimme Shelter
7. Sympathy For The Devil
8. Tumbling Dice
9. Paint It Black
10. It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It)

To me, those are the 10 songs that define the Stones. Yeah, they happen to be their hits, but I believe those 10 kind of cover most of the bases that make up the Stones. Angry, dirty, bluesy, and rocking.

To a lesser extent, I also think Street Fighting Man, Midnight Rambler, You Can't Always Get What You Want, and Miss You (again, for better or for worse) are also quintessential.

I don't know if you can narrow it down to one song, but if I did it might have to be Brown Sugar.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-12-11 18:36 by RollingFreak.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: December 11, 2014 18:32

You're not far wrong with that choice PhillyFAN. It's got pop, rock, soul, gospel and an outro to die for. There are better songs in the Stones canon but this one pretty much captures what they are all about - or at least have been for much of their career.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: Wild Slivovitz ()
Date: December 11, 2014 18:40

It has to be Midnight Rambler, if you ask me.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: December 11, 2014 19:01

well I always nominate Brown Sugar. specially now.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: December 11, 2014 19:03

For me it has always been the original studio recording of Honky Tonk Women

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: PhillyFAN ()
Date: December 11, 2014 19:04

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Silver Dagger
You're not far wrong with that choice PhillyFAN. It's got pop, rock, soul, gospel and an outro to die for. There are better songs in the Stones canon but this one pretty much captures what they are all about - or at least have been for much of their career.[/quot


The lyric about keep on " rolling" has adds to making me think its a great song as well.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Date: December 11, 2014 19:15

There are many. ' Exile ' is a good place to look. Half of its tracks can be considered that way.

I agree that the Brussels '73 version of Tumbling Dice might be the best live version of the song but,also consider the one from Detroit in '78. I think that the '90's versions were better than the '80's versions but,I also agree that it has become flat lately. For this past decade,the version from Argentina in 2006 might have been the best Tumbling Dice of recent times.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: buttons67 ()
Date: December 11, 2014 19:35

for me there are 3 songs which together would define a large portion of the stones catalogue and should have been the only 3 songs performed every gig(the rest should have been rotated between gigs)

those 3 songs are

brown sugar
jj flash
paint it black

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: December 11, 2014 19:38

honky tonk

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: EasterMan ()
Date: December 11, 2014 19:50

Best latter day version of Tumbling Dice in my opinion:




Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: December 11, 2014 19:52

Gimme Shelter.

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Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: December 11, 2014 20:02

Quote
RollingFreak
Quintessential Stones songs, for me, are:

1. Satisfaction
2. Jumpin' Jack Flash
3. Brown Sugar
4. Honky Tonk Women
5. Start Me Up (for better or for worse)
6. Gimme Shelter
7. Sympathy For The Devil
8. Tumbling Dice
9. Paint It Black
10. It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It)

To me, those are the 10 songs that define the Stones. Yeah, they happen to be their hits, but I believe those 10 kind of cover most of the bases that make up the Stones. Angry, dirty, bluesy, and rocking.

To a lesser extent, I also think Street Fighting Man, Midnight Rambler, You Can't Always Get What You Want, and Miss You (again, for better or for worse) are also quintessential.

I don't know if you can narrow it down to one song, but if I did it might have to be Brown Sugar.


I pretty much agree. This has nothing to do with what song we like the most (give me a live version of Midnight Rambler anyday), but if we walk up to a typical rock n roll fan and ask them what song most definds the Stones, I think Satisfaction would place first followed by JJF and so on....

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: PhillyFAN ()
Date: December 11, 2014 21:19

Great choices! Almost their standard set list! It is difficult to boil down to one song tho'. Now that the touring is finished things have gotten a little blue (boring). So chatting with fellow Stones folk is wonderful!

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: December 11, 2014 21:27

If people would really like to know what
the Stones are about,maybe it would be

Jumping Jack Flash
No Expectations
Satisfaction
Midnight Rambler
Gimme Shelter
Waiting On A Friend
Tumbling Dice
Happy
Sympathy
Start Me Up


But in a hundred years their career will be
down to Satisfaction (I fear).

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: nightskyman ()
Date: December 11, 2014 21:28

Like the choices in the initial post. But you see how difficult it is, as everyone has a different view of what a 'quintessential' Stones song is.

I like that someone mentioned 'Midnight Rambler.' I'd include 'Wild Horses' and 'Street Fighting Man,' but those are two of my personal favorites.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: stonesstein ()
Date: December 12, 2014 07:08

Wow! Great stuff, y'all!

While Jack Flash seems to me to be the one, songs like

Let it Bleed
Gimme Shelter
Brown Sugar and
Midnight Rambler cannot be overlooked.

Still, THE Stones' desert island track for me is ....

ROCKS OFF

Keith on fire
Charlie alight
And Jagger mean as a scorned trailer-trash queen.

stonesstein

Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: jrdavrainville ()
Date: December 12, 2014 17:34

1. Satisfaction
2. Sympathy For The Devil
3. Start Me Up
4. Brown Sugar
5. Paint It Black
6. Jumpin' Jack Flash
7. Honky Tonk Women
8. Gimme Shelter
9. Let s spend the night together
10. It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It)

My list is quite narrow from the original
"Let s spend the night" replacing "Tumbling Dice" ( need some piano in the list ) and some changes in the positions but nothing important

And what about "Doom and Gloom" - for me best RS song since Start me up ( 32 years it s quite a long time ) - Perhaps in the 20 list

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 12, 2014 18:15

I know there are the songs that they are known for and then the songs that should be known. In regard to sticking to what quintessential means and of which it must include more than just the straight and narrow, I've never been convinced that Satisfaction or Paint It Black and a few others have been the perfect embodiment of what the Stones are. After all, they never did anything like those songs again. So those don't necessarily "embody" what the Stones are or sound like strictly in that regard. They may have at the time but what the Stones have become to be known for, the rhythm monster, the licks, the guitar interplay, the riffs, attitude, some nice horns and musicianship (songs in no particular order) looks like this for me, in this condensed form anyway:

1. Tumbling Dice
2. Brown Sugar
3. Can't You Hear Me Knocking
4. Jumpin' Jack Flash
5. Gimme Shelter
6. Slave
7. Sweet Virginia
8. Shattered
9. Honky Tonk Women
10. Bitch
11. Rocks Off
12. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
13. Sympathy For The Devil
14. Beast Of Burden
15. Waiting On A Friend

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: nightskyman ()
Date: December 12, 2014 19:51

You have to consider both music and lyrics, and across different eras of the Stones. Would the Stones who recorded 'Satisfaction' (with Brian Jones) do well to record a song like 'Slave?'

There are quintessential Stones songs from each era imo.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 12, 2014 19:58

In fairness to Slave, Satisfaction was recorded strictly by luck...

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: StickyExile98 ()
Date: December 13, 2014 05:50

Tumbling Dice is the one, there's no denying that. Like you said, the track really captures the essence of the band, more-so than any of their other songs.

In 100 years, though, the song that will truly stand the test of time and define the Stones and their career to the greatest extent will have to be Satisfaction. It's by far their most well-known track, and it will unarguably go down in history as one of the few songs which changed music forever, along with Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" and Chuck Berry's "Johnny B Goode". It's hard to imagine what music would be like today had Satisfaction never been written. It really was a turning point in musical history, and I'm sure it will be remembered as being one one centuries to come. Just like we remember Mozart and Beethoven today, future generations will remember the Stones for their massive contribution to music with Satisfaction.

Note: Satisfaction is not my favourite Stones song, that would have to be Sweet Virginia.

Honourable mentions:

- Brown Sugar
- Start Me Up
- It's Only Rock N' Roll
- Jumping Jack Flash

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: December 13, 2014 06:06

Quote
TooTough
If people would really like to know what
the Stones are about,maybe it would be

Jumping Jack Flash
No Expectations
Satisfaction
Midnight Rambler
Gimme Shelter
Waiting On A Friend
Tumbling Dice
Happy
Sympathy
Start Me Up


But in a hundred years their career will be
down to Satisfaction (I fear).

thumbs up

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: rebelrebel ()
Date: December 13, 2014 20:02

I'd give Love Is Strong a mention, not because it's their best song but it is quintessential Stones and one of their best post 80s songs. Also, Stray Cat Blues in its own way.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: EJM ()
Date: December 13, 2014 20:06

I'd add street fightling man

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: Stoner72 ()
Date: December 13, 2014 20:19

Excellent question, and I'm having one hell of a time coming up with an answer!

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: camper88 ()
Date: December 13, 2014 20:53

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Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: December 13, 2014 20:59

Quote
camper88
You Can't Always Get What You Want (haven't seen this a lot)

If I were asked to choose a single Stones song, that would be my choice.

Re: Quintessential Stones Song
Posted by: HonkeyTonkFlash ()
Date: December 13, 2014 21:16

So many to choose from...
JJFlash
HTW
Midnight Rambler
SFTD
It's Only Rock and Roll (live versions)
Gimmme Shelter
Brown Sugar
Bitch
Tumbling Dice
All Down The Line

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