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memofromdylan
With today's sad news does Karl Denson get tenure as the Stones' saxophonist?
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memofromdylan
With today's sad news does Karl Denson get tenure as the Stones' saxophonist?
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memofromdylan
With today's sad news does Karl Denson get tenure as the Stones' saxophonist?
Do you really think this is a topic to be discussed today?
Bobby Keys, a great musician who played with the Stones more than 40 years and was loved by all of the fans dearly, passed away just a few hours ago.
I think he deserves our deep respect - and discussions about who is going to be his follow-up are very inappropriate at the moment...
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kahoosier
Well BV has tried to explain why some of us do what we do. Let me say a few extra things. I saw 32 songs performed this tour, so while this band is not as unpredictable as the Dead were, they are a lot less locked in then many people assume after glancing at a set list or two. Moreover, having been to a few Dead shows in the day, comparing the performances of these two bands is worse than apples to oranges, and I mean that as a criticism of neither band. You just do not have the same expectations if you appreciate both.
But over the last few tours I have come to the belief that for me it is the tribal quality of being on the road. I have written here before, every few years my friends and I hit the road. For weeks on end we meet, re meet, share rooms, share meals, share drinks, share stories and every 3rd or 4th night hire the best damn house band in the world to play our favorite songs for us. Some of these people I stay in contact with constantly, but only see during tours. Nonetheless I grew up in Indiana, spent almost 20 years On Hawaii and other Pacific Islands, live in Auckland and my best friends live in London, so I don't see that as entirely strange. I stepped through the door of a strange hotel in Adelaide the Sunday before the last week of rehearsals and ran straight into BV. I shared a room with a an uber fan from Japan and a good friend from New Zealand. Along the way I ran into familiar faces from the UK, talked more to Linda then I have in over a decade, shared cues with Germans I know, shared drinks with crazy Kareem from Amsterdam, and met Peter and Dereyn (sp?) from Australia, honestly two of the most interesting and genuinely nice people I could imagine. Hats of to Katie, Andrew, Andy, where are you Dean ...Ian??? I could go on and on. Beast , Paulywauly and I are already discussing the merits of a giant Vegas festival VS waiting for South American Stadiums. Hats off to the Apprentice Ben from Canada and your 3 Watts Drumsticks, I still have that Charlie Pic.
I saw my fist stones show in 1975 on Jagger's birthday, probably remember less than anyone but Keith. Over the last 40 years, as time and finances allowed, every tour has become a bigger commitment. It is something visceral , not rational, and if you don't have the bug, you may never understand it. But in the last 15 years alone I have wondered over 4 continents to places I would never have been (Brno? Bucharest?) and seen unexpected beauty and wonder, and I have never felt alone. At each stop I have met people I know , and while we may take a day tour out into Transylvania, we all are all held together buy another night hearing our band play on into the night.
And why have a travel agent arrange your vacation, LOL, the Stones have the best travel arrangements, just follow them to see the world)
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Justin
The Stones have done a tribute number for their heroes who have passed on (James Brown, Bo Diddley etc) in the past. Would be nice if they did a number to honor Bobby on the next tour. Doesn't necessarily have to be a Stones song it could be a tune Bobby loved that the band identifies with.
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memofromdylan
With today's sad news does Karl Denson get tenure as the Stones' saxophonist?
Do you really think this is a topic to be discussed today?
Bobby Keys, a great musician who played with the Stones more than 40 years and was loved by all of the fans dearly, passed away just a few hours ago.
I think he deserves our deep respect - and discussions about who is going to be his follow-up are very inappropriate at the moment...
I agree this is not for discussion at this time.
If your wife or husband passed away would you be thinking about who to replace them with straight away.
Nate
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MisterDDDD
I am right behind you in taking the plunge, but at this point it seems more like a fair to decent bet than a "sure" one...
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kahoosier
Well BV has tried to explain why some of us do what we do. Let me say a few extra things. I saw 32 songs performed this tour, so while this band is not as unpredictable as the Dead were, they are a lot less locked in then many people assume after glancing at a set list or two. Moreover, having been to a few Dead shows in the day, comparing the performances of these two bands is worse than apples to oranges, and I mean that as a criticism of neither band. You just do not have the same expectations if you appreciate both.
But over the last few tours I have come to the belief that for me it is the tribal quality of being on the road. I have written here before, every few years my friends and I hit the road. For weeks on end we meet, re meet, share rooms, share meals, share drinks, share stories and every 3rd or 4th night hire the best damn house band in the world to play our favorite songs for us. Some of these people I stay in contact with constantly, but only see during tours. Nonetheless I grew up in Indiana, spent almost 20 years On Hawaii and other Pacific Islands, live in Auckland and my best friends live in London, so I don't see that as entirely strange. I stepped through the door of a strange hotel in Adelaide the Sunday before the last week of rehearsals and ran straight into BV. I shared a room with a an uber fan from Japan and a good friend from New Zealand. Along the way I ran into familiar faces from the UK, talked more to Linda then I have in over a decade, shared cues with Germans I know, shared drinks with crazy Kareem from Amsterdam, and met Peter and Dereyn (sp?) from Australia, honestly two of the most interesting and genuinely nice people I could imagine. Hats of to Katie, Andrew, Andy, where are you Dean ...Ian??? I could go on and on. Beast , Paulywauly and I are already discussing the merits of a giant Vegas festival VS waiting for South American Stadiums. Hats off to the Apprentice Ben from Canada and your 3 Watts Drumsticks, I still have that Charlie Pic.
I saw my fist stones show in 1975 on Jagger's birthday, probably remember less than anyone but Keith. Over the last 40 years, as time and finances allowed, every tour has become a bigger commitment. It is something visceral , not rational, and if you don't have the bug, you may never understand it. But in the last 15 years alone I have wondered over 4 continents to places I would never have been (Brno? Bucharest?) and seen unexpected beauty and wonder, and I have never felt alone. At each stop I have met people I know , and while we may take a day tour out into Transylvania, we all are all held together buy another night hearing our band play on into the night.
And why have a travel agent arrange your vacation, LOL, the Stones have the best travel arrangements, just follow them to see the world)
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bitusa2012
I know Springsteen has been VERY active touring over the past 3 or so years, since the passing of his long time sax player Clarence as he, in his words, can see the light on the front of a train approaching down the track... His own mortality.
The dreadful passing this week of both Bobby Keys and now Mac may bring that into sharp focus for the Stones too. Even at... ahem .... their age, I hope they keep active....
Not well expressed by me... but well intentioned. I hope everyone gets my drift...
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Kurt
Looking ahead to better days...
Does anyone have a guess as to which weekend might be the one to travel to Las Vegas? I assumed the "Rock" weekend originally, but now I'm not so sure.
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Naturalust
Yep. Let 'em play sitting on chairs with acoustics, messing up the chords and lyrics due to dementia and arthritis, telling stories of the old days, playing more ballads, country blues and blues, I'm still in. In fact that sounds like a pretty interesting show.
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bitusa2012
I know Springsteen has been VERY active touring over the past 3 or so years, since the passing of his long time sax player Clarence as he, in his words, can see the light on the front of a train approaching down the track... His own mortality.
The dreadful passing this week of both Bobby Keys and now Mac may bring that into sharp focus for the Stones too. Even at... ahem .... their age, I hope they keep active....
Not well expressed by me... but well intentioned. I hope everyone gets my drift...
Well enough expressed, bitusa2012. As horrible it might sound, but I think the passing of Jagger's loved one sounded like adding one extra push into his performance. He is always great, but he was simply phenomenal during the European leg of the tour - I have never seen him giving so much of himself ever before, which made him look more human and easier to be reached by his audiences, and not just this highly professional and wonderful but distant rock god. The musical interaction he had with audience was something I never experienced before. So genuine and direct.
- Doxa
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lem motlow
thanks mile high for the suicide note/post.we're all a little dumber for reading it.
really sorry the thrill has left you,now let me list all the people who couldnt give a shit that you think it"should finally really and truly be all over"
1. me-as a person who saw the worst friggin rolling show ever in the history of the band in cleveland ohio in 1978 when the band were in their 30's.since i saw them in their 60's and they were about 100 times better sorta blows your theory a bit eh pal?
2.the thousands of people who have never had the chance to see the rolling stones and will in the future.
3.the thousands of people who have seen the band and want to again.
4.their accounts who do the math to the tune of about $4-$5 million a night.i'm sure there will be a meeting in which someone says"hey,you guys are pulling down a few mill a show but people on the internet are talking,it may be time to shut it down.
5.the backing musicians who make a good chunk of their income working with the stones.
6.the crew and all the people employed by the stones during the tour.
7.the band themselves who have been in the game over 50 years and i'm guessing dont need a burned out fan telling them when their career should end.
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varilla
Yeah, Doxa. I stated this myself in some thread or another and noone seemed to catch up with my statement. I find a much more HUMAN Mick in these last months. Like he has had a bath of humility and he has changed his attitude towards fans and bandmates. its only MY feeling. While i always admired Jagger for what he is (the best frontman in history) nowadays i like him much more.
He seems to be mortal, not that semi- god, completely unapproachable.
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6s7s9s
So, the Stones do a much better job of catering to their wide variety of fans than many other artists do...especially Mr. Dylan.