Tell Me :  Talk
Talk about your favorite band. 

Previous page Next page First page IORR home

For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.

Goto Page: Previous123Next
Current Page: 2 of 3
Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: October 27, 2014 18:42

Quote
Naturalust
Love this tune. Not quite as good as Ventilator Blues but a good cover tune for the Stones. They made it their own. Mick's harp is outstanding on this one and it fits on Exile very well. I wonder if they played this at Nellcote? Seems like a good dirty basement tune. peace

Yeah, probably when they were waiting for Keith to come downstairs! smoking smiley

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: dandelion1967 ()
Date: October 27, 2014 19:12

Taylor slide playing reminds me a lot of "Can't be satisfied".Maybe they played that tune, and then overdub Mick's vocals?

--------------------------------------------


"I'm gonna walk... before they make me run"

--------------------------------------------

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: 5strings ()
Date: October 27, 2014 19:21

Sure one of the best cover by the Rolling Stones , i remember in 72 when i hear it for the first time OMG !!
If you want to hear also a good one , you have 3 versions of it on Miami Rehearsals 94, Keith plays it more bluesy with less gain than on exile .

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: parislocksmith ()
Date: October 27, 2014 19:22

whitem8 & 71Tele got it just right. Hats off to Jagger.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: October 27, 2014 19:46

I think it's a great cover and fits well on Exile OMS................

__________________________

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: October 27, 2014 19:48

Quote
Naturalust
Love this tune. Not quite as good as Ventilator Blues but a good cover tune for the Stones. They made it their own. Mick's harp is outstanding on this one and it fits on Exile very well. I wonder if they played this at Nellcote? Seems like a good dirty basement tune. peace

Like Rene wrote in the first post, the song was recorded already in England in 1970, so it theoretically could have been released in STICKY FINGERS already. Seemingly it was one of those last sessions for STICKY FINGERS that Keith had missed back then (like with "Sway", "Moonlight Mile" ), since he was 'out of it', according to his own words... Bill Wyman has claimed that they partly chose Keith's villa (Nellcote) to be the recording studio in order to make sure that things like that would not happen again, that he at least will be around...

But yeah, the special dirty basement feel is there, no matter where they cut it...

- Doxa



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-27 19:50 by Doxa.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: Reagan ()
Date: October 27, 2014 20:19

Quote
DandelionPowderman
It's a great, great groove, and this track is one of my absolute favourites on Exile. The sound, the playing and the muddy atmosphere... With all this, repetition becomes a blessing thumbs up


I couldn't have said it better. Completely agree.

(I am embarrassed to admit that once upon a time I too thought that it was Keith on rhythm. I was shocked when I learned otherwise.)

-R

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: Bärs ()
Date: October 27, 2014 20:21

Gotta give Stu some cred for the build up of the tension.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: October 27, 2014 20:22

Quote
Reagan
Quote
DandelionPowderman
It's a great, great groove, and this track is one of my absolute favourites on Exile. The sound, the playing and the muddy atmosphere... With all this, repetition becomes a blessing thumbs up


I couldn't have said it better. Completely agree.

(I am embarrassed to admit that once upon a time I too thought that it was Keith on rhythm. I was shocked when I learned otherwise.)

-R

I think of this song every time Keith says that Mick can only play acoustic, not electric.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: Reagan ()
Date: October 27, 2014 20:22

Quote
whitem8
Taylor elevates the song to the blues stratosphere. How his lead crescendos against Mick's vocals and harp. Oh and that harp? WHEW! One of Jagger's best harp tracks.

Excellent summary

-R

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: Reagan ()
Date: October 27, 2014 20:24

Quote
71Tele
Fantastic gritty guitar by Jagger, as well as great harp. Stinging slide work from Taylor. The rhythm section stomps and kicks like nobody's business. The tension builds beautifully...The Stones at their blues best, and yet a few here find fault with it. Incredible.

This is the last one I'll quote. I wanted to stop at the first one, but everyone keeps making such great points. Spot on.

-R

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: October 27, 2014 21:10






"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: October 27, 2014 21:20

What tuning is Taylor on this?

C

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Date: October 27, 2014 21:21

Quote
liddas
What tuning is Taylor on this?

C

Open G, most likely.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: October 27, 2014 21:28

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
liddas
What tuning is Taylor on this?

C

Open G, most likely.

I'll try it tonight.

C

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: frtg55 ()
Date: October 27, 2014 22:24

I agree, too!

Sometimes when I put out "Exile" out of the shelf, to play only one or two songs, it's very often this song where I go with.

So much energy and coolness.
Stones at their best!

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: October 27, 2014 22:50

-



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-27 23:42 by LuxuryStones.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: October 28, 2014 02:01

Quote
71Tele
Quote
drewmaster
Apologies to Exile worshippers, but IMO this track just does not measure up to the Stones’ best blues covers. It is bland, repetitive, and tiresome, Charlie is buried way too deep in the mix, and Jagger’s delivery seems forced.

Drew

Everything you said is wrong. thumbs down

That's not a very nice thing to say. (And I tip my hat to everyone else here for biting their tongue). I truly would love to appreciate the magic of this song, as it was created by the band that I so dearly love, and in their artistic heyday, but for some reason I just can't. Does that make me "wrong"? Nope, it just means there's one less song out there that I can get my rocks off to. Music chooses us, not the other way around. It's my loss, not yours, so there's no need to be hostile.

Drew

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: October 28, 2014 05:09

Quote
drewmaster
Quote
71Tele
Quote
drewmaster
Apologies to Exile worshippers, but IMO this track just does not measure up to the Stones’ best blues covers. It is bland, repetitive, and tiresome, Charlie is buried way too deep in the mix, and Jagger’s delivery seems forced.

Drew

Everything you said is wrong. thumbs down

That's not a very nice thing to say. (And I tip my hat to everyone else here for biting their tongue). I truly would love to appreciate the magic of this song, as it was created by the band that I so dearly love, and in their artistic heyday, but for some reason I just can't. Does that make me "wrong"? Nope, it just means there's one less song out there that I can get my rocks off to. Music chooses us, not the other way around. It's my loss, not yours, so there's no need to be hostile.

Drew

OK, in my opinion everything you said was wrong. Is that better? I'm not trying to not be nice, I just think you're dead wrong. You use adjectives like "bland, repetitive, and tiresome" and then cry foul when someone disagrees. I'm not being hostile at all, I am disagreeing with your assessment.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-10-28 05:14 by 71Tele.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Date: October 28, 2014 09:45

Has anyone mentioned jagger's harp howls? Those blasts of "WHOO" he throws in every once in a while?. I remember when I first used to listen to this track as a kid, I never knew what made that sound, but I kept coming back for it. And also thw way Jagger comes back in with the verse "I love mhy baby 99 degree"

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Date: October 28, 2014 09:50

Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
Has anyone mentioned jagger's harp howls? Those blasts of "WHOO" he throws in every once in a while?. I remember when I first used to listen to this track as a kid, I never knew what made that sound, but I kept coming back for it. And also thw way Jagger comes back in with the verse "I love mhy baby 99 degree"

That is absolutely brilliant. What he does with the harp right after the "WHOO" is sensational thumbs up

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Date: October 28, 2014 11:57

Quote
Doxa
One of the tracks in EXILE that immedeately made a huge impression for me. Being such an angry, straightforward blues number, with one of the dirtiest guitars they ever have done, it didn't need time to grew on me, unlike with many other EXILE tracks. It hit just right home, like "Rocks Off" did. I naturally assumed that it was Richards on the rhythm guitar, and I kind of thought that that's so pure and raw Richards, played with such an attitude, no other cat can do (I even started to think Keith's playing in terms of that number). So it was a huge surprise when I finally realized that it was Jagger... A similar thing that happened with "The Last Time", another 'signature Keith riff' for me at the time. You live and learn..

The careful, sublime reading and study of 30's country blues numbers, that they mastered in BEGGARS ("Prodigal Son"), LET IT BLEED ("LOve In Vain"), and to an extent still in STICKY FINGERS ("You Gotta Move") was now transformed into straight-forward 70's loud electric guitar-heavy orgy. There is not one drop of Delta left, but pure blues rock; if the Chicago cats tranformed acoustic solo numbers into electric band stuff, that so much impressed the British r&b groups of the 60's, the Stones updated the latter into 70's sound, played by the greatest rock and roll band in the world. Could be even some Johnny Winter influence there. But I guess Robert Johnson must be smiling somewhere out there, 'those devils got it, man...'

Basically, a 'modern' blues can get not much easier, text-book like, and recording it must have taken just a few minutes, and not much thinking, but shit, kids, don't try that at home... You NEVER gonna sound as bad and mean and dangerous and distinct as these guys do. The sound, man... They just were so red hot, each contributor having so much idiosyncratic color in their touch. (Unfortunately, not much, if anything, of that was left when the Stones played the song as a guest number during 1994/95. Especially Jagger's bored and boring vocals are lamer than ever.)

The passion. That's what it is.

- Doxa





Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: Christian ()
Date: October 28, 2014 14:52

Someone knows what means 'I love my baby, ninety-nine degrees'?

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Date: October 28, 2014 15:16

Quote
Christian
Someone knows what means 'I love my baby, ninety-nine degrees'?

A metaphor for "very much", I guess.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: October 28, 2014 15:18

Quote
Christian
Someone knows what means 'I love my baby, ninety-nine degrees'?

The 99 degree heat created by the friction of their furious love making. >grinning smiley<

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: October 28, 2014 23:04

Quote
Silver Dagger
Quote
Christian
Someone knows what means 'I love my baby, ninety-nine degrees'?

The 99 degree heat created by the friction of their furious love making. >grinning smiley<

And if you get tired you take the 180 degree grinning smiley

__________________________

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: October 28, 2014 23:22

Quote
NICOS
Quote
Silver Dagger
Quote
Christian
Someone knows what means 'I love my baby, ninety-nine degrees'?

The 99 degree heat created by the friction of their furious love making. >grinning smiley<

And if you get tired you take the 180 degree grinning smiley

Oops did I write this.........

__________________________

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 29, 2014 02:44

Killer track. Great guitar from Taylor, great vocals from Mick, it sweeps, it stomps, it rolls. Awesome.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: October 29, 2014 06:10

Quote
Silver Dagger
The sound of those two guitars rocking from side to side, speaker to speaker and sliding from top to bottom is nothing short of magnificent. It's a great kinetic energy and almost hypnotic in its simplicity.

Totally agree. Such a beautiful track, I believe they covered it perfectly. Add Mick's amazing vocals to those beautiful guitars and ... damn, I get chills thinking about it.

Re: Track Talk: Stop Breaking Down
Posted by: pmk251 ()
Date: October 29, 2014 06:55

I was surprised way back when to learn that it was Jagger and not Keith who is playing what is by far the sexiest riff on the album. When Jagger says play, Taylor plays. They can be proud of how this one turned out. Solid, solid song.

Goto Page: Previous123Next
Current Page: 2 of 3


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Online Users

Guests: 449
Record Number of Users: 206 on June 1, 2022 23:50
Record Number of Guests: 9627 on January 2, 2024 23:10

Previous page Next page First page IORR home