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mickboy
Hello all.
As I layed out in the liner notes for 'Dancing So Free' GHS was a very transitional period as Mick T was doing two things: thinking about his future in the band and at the very same time, because of Keefs intense drug use, Mick J grooming Mick T to ascend to the second spot in the Stones in case Keef went south of where he was at. It's evident in the video's. On GHS you see Mick T being brought to the forefront of the 'stage' so to speak. And make the transition to IORR and you have Mick T in the front singing backing vocals with Keef relegated to the background. Very Intense stuff going on within the confines of the band. Now back to GHS. I honestly think Jagger WANTED to go somewhere musically more adventurous that Keef didn't have the desire to go to. So Mick J went with Mick T to see how it would come out. Stop now and digest that.

So fast forward to the 'Supergroup' Jagger tried a few years ago. Pretty much along the same lines musically. But both projects petered out because the 'Hand Of Fate' came into play and it wasn't meant to carry forward. But.....we have this Beautiful piece of Vinyl to listen to till the day we die.
I must confess, it took me up to my maturity age of 30+ and a budding appreciation for Blues and Jazz before GHS really grabbed my balls. But to me, it's in the top 6 of Stones albums. And I have to thank Mick T and Mick J for giving it a go and giving us this glimpse of 'what could have been'.
Mickboy

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EddieByword
My 1st Stones album, so in the context of my life - it's always been a triumph and still is...............

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EddieByword
My 1st Stones album, so in the context of my life - it's always been a triumph and still is...............

Me too...I (obviously) now know it's not their greatest album but it will always be my 1st and I remember also enjoying my parents (and siblings) disapproval..which was great

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Redhotcarpet
I bet Keith finally had enough and put a stop to that new partnership.

...Oh, did he?! Please elaborate.

Of course he didn't

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24FPS
Not a triumph at all. Quite a mixed bag. Miller's production prowess was declining fast. Heroin, and the past, did seem to be catching up to them. It's the 70s Between the Buttons, with a couple great songs, and a few clunkers too. And Angie simply outclasses the whole affair.

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DandelionPowderman
I thought he always looked uncomfortable in the hats, the glitter and the make up Mick probably encouraged him to put on.

He looked much cooler without that shit, imo

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DandelionPowderman
Some songs, whether we like them or not, stand as colossuses.

I see all the weak points with Angie (the "too muchness", the cliche-ish overuse of strings etc).

Yet, it is a monumental ballad in all its heartpiercing sadness - it's real, too. There is a reason why they're still playing it.

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DandelionPowderman
Some songs, whether we like them or not, stand as colossuses.

I see all the weak points with Angie (the "too muchness", the cliche-ish overuse of strings etc).

Yet, it is a monumental ballad in all its heartpiercing sadness - it's real, too. There is a reason why they're still playing it.

Yeah, seemingly "Angie" and "Miss You" are the songs causing most controversy among Stones fans (especially here) as far as their most important and popular songs ever go. I love both of them dearly, and it would be hard for me to think how much poorer the Stones repertuare and legacy would be without them. Both convincing wins in not so typical ground for them. That's the richness of this band for me. But I do understand the sentiments by some fans why they are not winning 'rightly' with these kind of 'cheap' hit songs...

- Doxa

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Redhotcarpet
Yes all songs were written 100% by Jagger/Richards because it says so on the album sleeve.

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Redhotcarpet
Yes all songs were written 100% by Jagger/Richards because it says so on the album sleeve.

I think the point was that despite Jagger/Taylor working together we didn't actually get to the point where Taylor was actually credited, ultimately spoiling any potential writing partnership.

So you needn't get all 'eye-rolly' on me...what you need to do is actually focus those eyes on what you're reading.

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Redhotcarpet
Yes all songs were written 100% by Jagger/Richards because it says so on the album sleeve.

I think the point was that despite Jagger/Taylor working together we didn't actually get to the point where Taylor was actually credited, ultimately spoiling any potential writing partnership.

So you needn't get all 'eye-rolly' on me...what you need to do is actually focus those eyes on what you're reading.

You didn't have your coffee yet this morning, Treacle?

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TeddyB1018
It's got Nicky Hopkins on it, and the Rolling Stones, so it's going to have its sound and its moments. But Mick was definitely pushing into self-parody, or at least self-comsciousness in his lyrics and performance. As for this "great partnership" with MT, they did some nice stuff together, but some of the slower things on GHS and IORR are the weakest material they did until the 80's came.

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Redhotcarpet
Yes all songs were written 100% by Jagger/Richards because it says so on the album sleeve.

I think the point was that despite Jagger/Taylor working together we didn't actually get to the point where Taylor was actually credited, ultimately spoiling any potential writing partnership.

So you needn't get all 'eye-rolly' on me...what you need to do is actually focus those eyes on what you're reading.

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24FPS
Not a triumph at all. Quite a mixed bag. Miller's production prowess was declining fast. Heroin, and the past, did seem to be catching up to them. It's the 70s Between the Buttons, with a couple great songs, and a few clunkers too. And Angie simply outclasses the whole affair.

This reinforces my notion that I'm the only person on the planet who wasn't and isn't into Angie. If I were the sort of person who takes bathroom breaks during a show, which I'm not, it would be during that song.

I have no idea why. Nothing about it grabs me at all, though I can see objectively that it's a good song.