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Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 28, 2020 01:43

Let It Bleed …..

track 9 --- You Cant Always Get What You Want
track 6 --- Midnight Rambler



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: March 28, 2020 01:44

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schillid
Date-checking Bob's events & playlist...
Are there any events or songs from after the Mid-Seventies references?
... Like Dickey Betts, Fleetwood Mac, Freddy Mercury & Queen, etc...


On a Queen website at this moment someone is discussing "Mick Jagger & The Rolling Stones."

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: March 28, 2020 01:48

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Rockman
33 times, maybe more

**** 33 the age of Christ when crucified

33 1/3 = RPM (LP record)

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Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: RisingStone ()
Date: March 28, 2020 01:51

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MisterDDDD

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Hairball

Could be a reference to Hendrix's If 6 was 9....

I agree with the possible Hendrix if 6 was 9 reference.. but maybe with a Beatles twist.. number 9, number 9, number 9...

“You are Number 6.”
“I am not a number! I am a free man!”

...sorry I can’t help myselfsmiling bouncing smiley

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: March 28, 2020 02:00

I assumed it was a clear reference to Revolution #9 and then he was saying #6 just for humor. Seemed like typical Dylan humor. But who knows with the guy.

As for when it was recorded, it sounded like clear Tempest era to me. Sounds like a perfect cross between the Titanic song and Roll On John.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: March 28, 2020 04:20

I like the new song - so nice to get a gift from Bob this morning! Maybe it was
just the mood of the day - but it all seemed so surreal. Also thanks to the fan who posted the lyrics.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: March 28, 2020 05:38

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swimtothemoon
I like the new song - so nice to get a gift from Bob this morning! Maybe it was
just the mood of the day - but it all seemed so surreal. Also thanks to the fan who posted the lyrics.

I could kinda listen to him rattling on all day. Its like, oddly soothing lol.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: March 28, 2020 05:51

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loog droog
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schillid
Date-checking Bob's events & playlist...
Are there any events or songs from after the Mid-Seventies references?
... Like Dickey Betts, Fleetwood Mac, Freddy Mercury & Queen, etc...


On a Queen website at this moment someone is discussing "Mick Jagger & The Rolling Stones."


LOL
I only wanted to make clear that the reference wasn't the royal family

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Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: March 28, 2020 05:57

"For the last fifty years they've been searchin' for that"

Can one infer that Dylan wrote this in 2013?
( 1963 + 50 = 2013 )

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Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 28, 2020 06:11

Yep tempest ………..



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: March 28, 2020 07:41

Turn the radio on; don't touch the dials
Parkland hospital, only six more miles

I was a butcher cutting up meat
My hands were bloody, I'm dying on my feet


The day that they killed him, someone said to me, "Son
The age of the Antichrist has only begun.

I was a pitcher down in a slump
I was a fighter taken for a sucker punch

I've blood in my eye, got blood in my ear
I'm never gonna make it to the new frontier

I was a hooker losing her looks
I was a writer can't write another book


Let me know when you decide to thrown in the towel
It is what it is, and it's murder most foul


Hey, hey, you got me rocking now
Hey, hey, you got me rocking now


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-28 08:07 by schillid.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: March 28, 2020 07:51

Yes I agree. My 30 year old daughter felt the same. Maybe that was Bob’s intention?

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: ChrisL ()
Date: March 28, 2020 16:47

If anybody wants, I made a flac version off youtube with Audacity.

The song is free online, so I'm guessing it's OK to post here. If not, apologies ...

[we.tl]

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: ChrisL ()
Date: March 28, 2020 17:10

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schillid
Murder Most Foul
Bob Dylan

When you're down in Deep Ellum, put your money in your shoe
Don't ask what your country can do for you
Cash on the ballot, money to burn
Dealey Plaza, make left-hand turn
[/i]

I think it's "cash on the barrelhead"

[www.youtube.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-28 17:10 by ChrisL.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: falo01 ()
Date: March 28, 2020 17:29

17 min. long
There are no coincidences.
Dylan seems to be a Q follower.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: SimonN ()
Date: March 28, 2020 18:27

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ChrisL
If anybody wants, I made a flac version off youtube with Audacity.

The song is free online, so I'm guessing it's OK to post here. If not, apologies ...

[we.tl]

Hi Chris,

Thanks very much for doing this: I've been casting the YT versh to my stereo, so your work will be much appreciated!

All the best to you and everyone else in the IORR family,

Simon.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: March 28, 2020 18:43

Thanks for the FLAC file!

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: calipachangero ()
Date: March 28, 2020 20:53

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schillid
Turn the radio on; don't touch the dials
Parkland hospital, only six more miles

I was a butcher cutting up meat
My hands were bloody, I'm dying on my feet


The day that they killed him, someone said to me, "Son
The age of the Antichrist has only begun.

I was a pitcher down in a slump
I was a fighter taken for a sucker punch

I've blood in my eye, got blood in my ear
I'm never gonna make it to the new frontier

I was a hooker losing her looks
I was a writer can't write another book


Let me know when you decide to thrown in the towel
It is what it is, and it's murder most foul


Hey, hey, you got me rocking now
Hey, hey, you got me rocking now

That's brutal! >grinning smiley< very different approaches...

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: March 28, 2020 21:15

I made a lyric video for Dylan's new song, if anyone is interested.

Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul (Lyric Video)

I think it's a brilliant song. Amazing imagery, lots of great references not just to the JFK assassination, but to music and the 1960's.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: March 28, 2020 22:06

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calipachangero
Quote
schillid
Turn the radio on; don't touch the dials
Parkland hospital, only six more miles

I was a butcher cutting up meat
My hands were bloody, I'm dying on my feet


The day that they killed him, someone said to me, "Son
The age of the Antichrist has only begun.

I was a pitcher down in a slump
I was a fighter taken for a sucker punch

I've blood in my eye, got blood in my ear
I'm never gonna make it to the new frontier

I was a hooker losing her looks
I was a writer can't write another book


Let me know when you decide to thrown in the towel
It is what it is, and it's murder most foul


Hey, hey, you got me rocking now
Hey, hey, you got me rocking now

That's brutal! >grinning smiley< very different approaches...

I really like "Murder Most Foul," but to the comparison above I'll take "You Got Me Rocking" over "Wiggle Wiggle."

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 28, 2020 23:14




Key to the Highway" for the king on the harp



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: March 29, 2020 00:17

From American Songwriter:

Bob Dylan Delivers Mindbending “Murder Most Foul”
Lynne Margolis, March 27, 2020

Bob

Just when we’re almost too preoccupied to notice, leave it to Bob Dylan to casually drop his first new song in eight years — a stunningly rendered commentary that provides exactly the perspective we need to make sense of current events. In “Murder Most Foul,” a 17-minute epic posted online late Thursday night, the Shakespeare of our times not only turns the assassination of President Kennedy into a narrative device, he also rightly depicts it as the defining event that set this country on in its downward spiral, orchestrated by a series of evil schemers conceiving plots of Shakespearean scale.

With surgical finesse, Dylan dissects wide swaths of history, yet he does it through gymnastic brain leaps that conjure images of kernals exploding in a popcorn machine. Just the slyly subtle pop-cultural references alone, much less how intricately he connects them, will leave Dylanologists begging for new book deals to present their deep dive research.

From early delights such as his British-invasion invocation of Gerry & the Pacemakers’ “Ferry Cross the Mersey,” he segues into namechecks of nearly every jazz great (and rhyming of Thelonious Monk with “all that junk”), allusions to Robert Johnson and Jim Crow America, mentions of Woodstock, Altamont, Tommy, Houdini and various mobsters, and lines like “Play ‘Blue Sky,’ play Dickey Betts,” “Play ‘Merchant of Venice,’ play merchants of death/play ‘Stella By Starlight’ for Lady Macbeth.”

It sounds like stream-of-consciousness rap, but Dylan’s associations are too finely threaded to be completely extemporaneous. He researched carefully, and he puts everything in contexts both broadly sketched and pinpoint precise.

At one moment during his 17-minute recitation (mostly spoken, not sung), I couldn’t help missing Lou Reed; I could hear him — and Leonard Cohen, too — delivering this treatise, perhaps trading stanzas with Bob; it has that Songs for Drella vibe. And that gorgeous piano; I need to know who’s playing that stately, haunting piano, and the violin and soft percussion that emphasize and elevate Dylan’s keen insights, and still-sharp, sometimes biting wit.

He exhibits both in two key lines.

“What is the truth? Where did it go?” Dylan wonders at one point. “Ask Oswald and Ruby; they oughta know.” And just after the halfway mark, he recalls, “The day that they killed him, someone said to me, ‘Son, the age of the antichrist has just only begun.’”

Talk about 20-20 hindsight. If this is just a history lesson, it’s a most powerful one. If it’s an elegy for the America we once knew — an America of hope and promise, before the anger and despair — well, maybe we need to mourn that loss, and analyze it, before — if — we can find a way to join together and resurrect it.

This much, we do know: In times of adversity especially, we rely on our poets and painters, our singers and songwriters, to reflect our mood and often, guide us where we need to go. And 60-some years after Dylan released “Blowin’ in the Wind” and “A Hard Rain’s a-Gonna Fall” on The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan (six months before Kennedy’s assassination), he’s still that folk singer, telling us what we oughta know — and need to hear.

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Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: March 29, 2020 04:32

Bob Dylan: Murder Most Foul review – a dark, dense ballad for the end times
4 / 5 stars 4 out of 5 stars.
Dylan’s first new song in eight years is a fascinating portrait of his obsession with JFK’s assassination, rich with pop cultural detail and apocalyptic dread


People have mooted that it’s a standalone release, appearing now because Dylan understandably thinks it’s timely, March 2020 being a pretty apropos moment to release an epic song filled with death and horror and apocalyptic dread (“The age of the antichrist has just begun … it’s 36 hours past judgment day”), or perhaps to give his diehard fans further incentive to stay indoors. You rather get the feeling some of them will still be self-isolating months after the coronavirus all-clear has sounded, delicately unpicking its manifold knotty allusions – the line about playing it for Carl Wilson down Gower Avenue requires the listener to know that the late Beach Boy sang backing vocals on Desperados Under the Eaves, the concluding track from Warren Zevon’s eponymous 1976 album, which ended with the line “look away down Gower Avenue” – and arguing on message boards as to whether the Susie mentioned midway through is just a reference to the Everly Brothers, or to Suze Rotolo, the girlfriend with whom Dylan watched the aftermath of Kennedy assassination unfolding, holed up in their New York apartment.

For a song that lasts 17 minutes, there isn’t a great deal to Murder Most Foul musically. The arrangement hovers atmospherically in the distance, a haze of tumbling piano, lightly struck drums and violin, its softness at odds with the tone of the lyrics. One comparison currently being bandied about is to Don McLean’s American Pie, itself a kind of bubblegum populist take on Dylan’s oblique referential songs of the 60s, but American Pie had a catchy tune and a singalong chorus. Here, there’s nothing that even vaguely resembles a standard structure and Dylan swiftly abandons any pretence of there being a vocal melody: it’s essentially a recitation set to music.

The point is clearly the lyrics, which are dense and intriguing enough to hold your interest, and give the listener plenty to digest. Quite aside from all the cultural references, there’s a narrator that keeps switching from Kennedy himself to Dylan, who in turn seems to keep switching from firebrand mode to the grimly resigned old grouch of Things Have Changed and It’s All Good (“I hate to tell you Mister but only dead men are free”) and a plethora of details about the assassination itself: “Don’t say Dallas don’t love you, Mr President” is a mangling of the last words spoken to Kennedy by Nellie Connally, the first lady of Texas.

The JFK assassination looms large in Dylan’s history, despite his assurance that “I didn’t feel it more than anybody else … the whole thing about my reaction to the assassination is overplayed”. Certainly, it bothered him enough to give a rambling speech at an awards ceremony shortly afterwards saying he “saw something of himself” in Lee Harvey Oswald. (He was roundly booed.) He also subsequently visited the assassination site and indeed wrote about it, albeit in a sheaf of unpublished typescripts that were auctioned in the 90s. And it’s clearly been bothering him more recently: a 2012 exhibition of his paintings featured one of Oswald and one of Oswald’s killer, Jack Ruby.

Is the litany of music, film and literature that consumes the song’s second half intended to suggest its author thinks art is a meaningless distraction at moments of tragedy, or vitally important? The condescending tone of “Hush little children, you’ll understand / the Beatles are coming, they want to hold your hand” implies the former, although the very timing of Murder Most Foul’s release suggests it’s the latter. It also suggests an artist nearing 80, but continually moving forward – musically, it’s unlike anything Dylan has done before – and as wilfully contrary as ever.

“If I was more sensitive about it than anyone else, I would have written a song about it, wouldn’t I?” he protested in 1971 when asked about the Kennedy assassination. Now he has.

[www.theguardian.com]

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 29, 2020 06:03

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slewan
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floodonthepage
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slewan
all these rumors have been discussion at expectingrain.com and there now is some kind of consensus that they are nothing more than rumors and/or just fake

Might want to check on those rumors again...

no need to since this in an old recording (as stated on bobdylan.com – the song sounds like a outtake from Tempest)

He didnt say it was an old recording. He said it was 'an unreleased song we recorded a while back'. Thats a pretty vague comment, could be 5 years or 5 months ago for all we know. Typical of Bob to be vague. 'Nothing is revealed', as it were.

Going by his voice which was a lot more ragged in 2012 than it was on the Sinatra albums, it sounds considerably more recent than 'Tempest'.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-29 06:21 by Gazza.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: March 29, 2020 09:40

Quote
ChrisL
If anybody wants, I made a flac version off youtube with Audacity.

The song is free online, so I'm guessing it's OK to post here. If not, apologies ...

[we.tl]

Thank you Chris! thumbs up

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: March 29, 2020 14:25

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Gazza
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slewan
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floodonthepage
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slewan
all these rumors have been discussion at expectingrain.com and there now is some kind of consensus that they are nothing more than rumors and/or just fake

Might want to check on those rumors again...

no need to since this in an old recording (as stated on bobdylan.com – the song sounds like a outtake from Tempest)

He didnt say it was an old recording. He said it was 'an unreleased song we recorded a while back'. Thats a pretty vague comment, could be 5 years or 5 months ago for all we know. Typical of Bob to be vague. 'Nothing is revealed', as it were.

Going by his voice which was a lot more ragged in 2012 than it was on the Sinatra albums, it sounds considerably more recent than 'Tempest'.

right, his voice sounds more recent than 'Tempest', but the song itself and especially the lyrics sound were much like they are from the 'Tempest' era. Maybe he rerecorded the song (just like he did with Mississippi)

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: March 29, 2020 18:52

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slewan
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Gazza
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slewan
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floodonthepage
Quote
slewan
all these rumors have been discussion at expectingrain.com and there now is some kind of consensus that they are nothing more than rumors and/or just fake

Might want to check on those rumors again...

no need to since this in an old recording (as stated on bobdylan.com – the song sounds like a outtake from Tempest)

He didnt say it was an old recording. He said it was 'an unreleased song we recorded a while back'. Thats a pretty vague comment, could be 5 years or 5 months ago for all we know. Typical of Bob to be vague. 'Nothing is revealed', as it were.

Going by his voice which was a lot more ragged in 2012 than it was on the Sinatra albums, it sounds considerably more recent than 'Tempest'.

right, his voice sounds more recent than 'Tempest', but the song itself and especially the lyrics sound were much like they are from the 'Tempest' era. Maybe he rerecorded the song (just like he did with Mississippi)

As MrEcho previously posted - "Most certainly a new recording from early 2020, confirming the rumors of sessions in LA in January/February", and when it was actually written is beside the point.
The fact is that no matter the who, what, where, when, and how this was written and/or recorded, it's great to have an original NEW Dylan tune - especially in times like these.

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Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 29, 2020 19:01

Its also a bit bizarre that timewise, Bob's new song is double the length of new material produced by the Stones in the last 15 years. :-)

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Captain Teague ()
Date: March 29, 2020 19:04

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Gazza
Its also a bit bizarre that timewise, Bob's new song is double the length of new material produced by the Stones in the last 15 years. :-)

Always great to hear the musings of Gazza on matters Stones, Dylan, Neil Young and the music world in general!

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: March 29, 2020 19:41

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Captain Teague
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Gazza
Its also a bit bizarre that timewise, Bob's new song is double the length of new material produced by the Stones in the last 15 years. :-)

Always great to hear the musings of Gazza on matters Stones, Dylan, Neil Young and the music world in general!

Speaking of Neil Young, there's the mesmerizing Driftin' Back from 2012 that clocks in at staggering 27+ minutes.
And from the same album, Walk Like a Giant and Ramada Inn that are both over 16 minutes....


Meanwhile, the Stones.......................confused smiley

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