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Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: JimmyTheSaint ()
Date: July 10, 2016 23:01

Younger artists tour to promote their most recent material. I can respect when older artists do the same. Setlists are easily available on the net. Ticket buyers should know exactly what they are going to get.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: HonkeyTonkFlash ()
Date: July 10, 2016 23:12

I love that Dylan concentrates on his more recent material rather than doing a Greatest Hits show. It shows he has confidence in his current and recent stuff and he's not willing to be pigeon-holed.

"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: July 11, 2016 10:14

Quote
HonkeyTonkFlash
I love that Dylan concentrates on his more recent material rather than doing a Greatest Hits show. It shows he has confidence in his current and recent stuff and he's not willing to be pigeon-holed.

I shouldn't have been so harsh on Bob and I stand rightfully corrected. He can play what ever he wants to play. If Dylan didn't listen and put his own muse first - we would have missed some amazing and legendary albums. Not sure what I was thinking, I have seen many Dylan shows since 1978 and have enjoyed them all. Each concert was different in content and presentation. He follows his muse without concern for commercial success. He is an amazing artist.

Some of the 100,000 fans will leave the Desert Trip concert loving him and some will leave with a different opinion. So what else is new... Seems pretty normal in the long career of Bob Dylan.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: August 10, 2016 05:38

and the Endless Tour continues 2 days after Oldchella. Pretty busy guy at 75.

Bob Dylan Announces Fall Tour Dates

10/16 – Phoenix, AZ – Comerica Theatre
10/18 – Albuquerque, NM – Kiva Auditorium
10/19 – El Paso, TX – Abraham Chavez Theatre
10/20 – Lubbock, TX – City Bank Auditorium
10/22 – Thackerville, OK – WinStar World Casino
10/23 – Tulsa, OK – Brady Theater
10/25 – Shreveport, LA – Municipal Auditorium
10/26 – Baton Rouge, LA – River Center Theater
10/27 – Jackson, MS – Thalia Mara Hall
10/29 – Huntsville, AL – Von Braun Center
10/30 – Paducah, KY – The Carson Center
11/01 – Louisville, KY – The Kentucky Center for Performing Arts
11/02 – Charleston, WV – Clay Center
11/04 – Durham, NC – Durham Performing Arts Center
11/05 – Roanoke, VA – Berglund Center for the Arts
11/06 – Charlotte, NC – Blumenthal Performing Arts Center
11/09 – Knoxville, TN – Tennessee Theatre
11/10 – Columbia, SC – Township Auditorium
11/12 – Asheville, NC – Thomas Wolfe Auditorium
11/13 – Chattanooga, TN – Tivoli Theatre
11/15 – Birmingham, AL – Concert Hall at BJCC
11/16 – Mobile, AL – Saenger Theatre
11/18 – Jacksonville, FL – Moran Theater
11/19 – Clearwater, FL – Ruth Eckerd Hall
11/20 – Fort Myers, FL – Barbara B. Mann Performing Arts Hall
11/22 – Orlando, FL – Dr. Phillips Center
11/23 – Fort Lauderdale, FL – Broward Center for the Performing Arts

________________________________________________________

A recent review submitted to Ticketmaster after the show in Portland, Maine.
by SmoothSailing69:

Bob Dylan's concert was such a disappointment. He played no recognizable songs. He was unintelligible, mumbling incoherently. No singing voice. No communication with the audience. People were leaving in droves.

Favorite moment: When we decided to leave.

Setlist: I have no idea what songs were played.

__________________________________________________________

lol. I'd go in a heartbeat. thumbs up



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-08-10 05:53 by hopkins.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: August 10, 2016 10:49

If Dylan didn't sing, play a note but just stood there (with his back to the audience of course), people would still turn up.
Its called fan worship.
Wish he would get on with a sequel to Chronicles One. He's a much better writer than singer. Perhaps he will leave a treasure trove of writings when he's finally knocked on heaven's door.
Still, his work schedule puts Mick and Co to shame.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: BamaStone ()
Date: August 10, 2016 20:45

I will be at the B'ham show, might go to Huntsville also....

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: August 10, 2016 21:21

A little story about Bob...

I went to an exhibition at the Morgan Library in New York where a copy
of an essay Bob wrote when he was 15 years old for an assignment to the
class taught by BJ Rolfzen. I thought it was damned good especially
considering how lazy I was in high school. BUT Mr. Rolfzen only gave him a
"B".

A year or so later I decided to call Mr. Rolfzen in Minnesota. He was in
the hospital but I had a delightful chat with his wife. And when he
came home he gave me a call. "Why did Bob (Mr. Rolfzen always referred to him as "Robert") only get a 'B'" I asked. "Because I knew he could do better," said his teacher.

Bob never forgot Mr. Rolfzen and he and his wife for years were invited to
special events honoring Dylan as he became famous. Bob credited Mr. Rolfzen
"with being a great teacher and being very special to me..."

Mr. Rolfzen died soon after our telephone conversation. I didn't know this for
several months but I called his wife and she was pleased to hear from me.
They are surely two of the finest, kindest people I've ever spoken with.

I think of them frequently and when I'm writing I often think, "Ahhh Mr. Rolfzen. YOU would have made me a much better student!"

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: BamaStone ()
Date: August 11, 2016 00:42

Cool story SR!

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: August 11, 2016 09:11

Thanks for taking the time to share your story stones rule - interesting.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: August 11, 2016 09:58

Rolling Stone announcing the latest concert dated.....'Folk legend Bob Dylan'.
Obviously some times have not changed.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: August 30, 2016 18:30

Film schedule and ticketing information on the Bob Dylan Film Festival, including a special 10th anniversary edition of No Direction Home, The Ghost of Electricity (first public exhibition of physical elements from The Bob Dylan Archive) and Bob Dylan: From the Archive (a program of rare and never-before-seen performances from The Bob Dylan Archive ).

[bobdylanarchive.com]

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: stewedandkeefed ()
Date: September 6, 2016 16:38

Personally I think if Bob goes out in front of that Desert Trip crowd and plays the same twenty songs he was playing last tour then he is going to bomb. The Sinatra tunes are great and all that but I just can't see them going over at this event and while I like Tempest I don't think that crowd is going to want to hear five tunes from that. In recent years Bob has adjusted his setlist in Europe when playing to festival crowds (2014 & 2015) so I think he's aware of the dilemma. I know Bob is known for going against such concerns but he's getting paid millions and I wonder if he will adjust according to such expectations. Any thoughts?

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: HonkeyTonkFlash ()
Date: September 6, 2016 16:56

Quote
stewedandkeefed
Personally I think if Bob goes out in front of that Desert Trip crowd and plays the same twenty songs he was playing last tour then he is going to bomb. The Sinatra tunes are great and all that but I just can't see them going over at this event and while I like Tempest I don't think that crowd is going to want to hear five tunes from that. In recent years Bob has adjusted his setlist in Europe when playing to festival crowds (2014 & 2015) so I think he's aware of the dilemma. I know Bob is known for going against such concerns but he's getting paid millions and I wonder if he will adjust according to such expectations. Any thoughts?

Yeah - When Bob does his own regular concerts he's playing to HIS crowd. At Desert Trip, he'll be playing to a "classic rock" crowd that probably will be upset if they don't hear a lot of well known hits. Will Bob cater to this crowd? It will be very interesting to find out.

"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: September 6, 2016 18:38

Plus he must return for the second weekend which could get ugly if the first
show was a negative surprise for the audience and the national media.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: HonkeyTonkFlash ()
Date: September 6, 2016 20:27

Quote
swimtothemoon
Plus he must return for the second weekend which could get ugly if the first
show was a negative surprise for the audience and the national media.

It would be interesting to hear how Bob might treat his old classics with his current voice and band. Will the songs be recognizable to casual fans or will he radically alter the arrangements as he always did in the past? God, I wish I could be there.

"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Woz ()
Date: September 6, 2016 20:49

> Will the songs be recognizable to casual fans or will he radically alter the arrangements as he always did in the past?


Unrecognizable arrangements.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-09-07 01:17 by Woz.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: MrEcho ()
Date: September 6, 2016 22:22

Quote
stewedandkeefed
Personally I think if Bob goes out in front of that Desert Trip crowd and plays the same twenty songs he was playing last tour then he is going to bomb. The Sinatra tunes are great and all that but I just can't see them going over at this event and while I like Tempest I don't think that crowd is going to want to hear five tunes from that. In recent years Bob has adjusted his setlist in Europe when playing to festival crowds (2014 & 2015) so I think he's aware of the dilemma. I know Bob is known for going against such concerns but he's getting paid millions and I wonder if he will adjust according to such expectations. Any thoughts?

Having followed Bob for a long time, my guess is that he will replace several songs in "The Set" of 2015/2016 (which consists of mostly recent material) with some of his classics. He did the same thing in 2015 whenever he played festival-type situations. See the setlists from Mainz, Tuebingen, Albi, Saint-Malô-du-Bois, Locarno and Loerrach in 2015. Those were festival or festival-type shows and he amended the setlist accordingly, including several of his classic songs. I think he will do the same thing for Desert Trip.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: September 7, 2016 01:42

Quote
Woz
> Will the songs be recognizable to casual fans or will he radically alter the arrangements as he always did in the past?


Unrecognizable arrangements.

I will go with mostly recognizable arrangements but I actually don't have a clue!
Bob is certainly unpredictable.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Woz ()
Date: September 7, 2016 05:25

> Bob is certainly unpredictable <

That's the truth!

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: September 7, 2016 18:56

Quote
Woz
> Bob is certainly unpredictable <

That's the truth!

Gotta love him for it though!

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: MrEcho ()
Date: September 27, 2016 14:55

Just announced: Official 36 CD box "The 1966 Live Recordings" due for release November 11. Includes all available recordings (mono soundboards, multi tracks and audience tapes).

[www.amazon.co.uk]

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 27, 2016 15:05

Would be funny if the early 2000's Scorpio box had a better more natural sound than this one... grinning smiley

CD 1 -Sydney, April 13, 1966 (Soundboard recorded by TCN 9 TV Australia)
CD 2 -Sydney, April 13, 1966 (Soundboard recorded by TCN 9 TV Australia)
CD 3 -Melbourne, April 20, 1966 (Soundboard / unknown broadcast)
CD 4 -Copenhagen, May 1, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 5 -Dublin, May 5, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 6 -Dublin, May 5, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 7 -Belfast, May 6, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 8 -Belfast, May 6, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 9 -Bristol, May 10, 1966 (Soundboard / audience)
CD 10 -Bristol, May 10, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 11 -Cardiff, May 11, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 12 -Birmingham, May 12, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 13 -Birmingham, May 12, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 14 -Liverpool, May 14, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 15 -Leicester, May 15, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 16 -Leicester, May 15, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 17 -Sheffield, May 16, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
CD 18 -Sheffield, May 16, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 19 -Manchester, May 17, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
CD 20 -Manchester, May 17, 1966 (CBS Records recording except Soundcheck/ Soundboard)
CD 21 -Glasgow, May 19, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 22 -Edinburgh, May 20, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 23 -Edinburgh, May 20, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 24 -Newcastle, May 21, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 25 -Newcastle, May 21, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 26 -Paris, May 24, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 27 -Paris, May 24, 1966 (Soundboard)
CD 28 -London, May 26, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
CD 29 -London, May 26, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
CD 30 -London, May 27, 1966 (CBS Records recording)
CD 31 -London, May 27, 1966 (CBS Records recordings)
CD 32 -White Plains, NY, February 5, 1966 (Audience tape)
CD 33 -Pittsburgh, PA, February 6, 1966 (Audience tape)
CD 34 -Hempstead, NY, February 26, 1966 (Audience tape)
CD 35 -Melbourne, April 19, 1966 (Audience tape)
CD 36 -Stockholm, April 29, 1966 (Audience tape)

[www.badlands.co.uk]

By "Soundboard" I guess they mean Nagra recordings made by Pennebaker's crew.
"CBS Records recording" means a 3-tracks pro recording made by a CBS engineer (but not necessarily better than the "Nagra" tapes).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-09-27 15:12 by dcba.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: MrEcho ()
Date: September 28, 2016 02:02

Yes, "Soundboard" refers to the recordings made with a Nagra tape recorder (best portable tape recorder at the time) by Pennebaker's film crew and Dylan's soundman Richard Alderson from a mono line feed from the soundboard. The Nagra tapes that are known already sound great.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: September 28, 2016 02:16


Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: andrea66 ()
Date: September 28, 2016 09:32

i think that one of the most interesting things about desert trip will be dylan's setlist. i think he will play more or less the same setlist as his recent tour, but honestly everything is unpredictable.
a japanese firend of mine went to tokyo to see him few months ago he told me that almost the whole audience was around 70 years old or more ( he is 56) and that many people fell asleep during the concert. if it is true, i find this very very embarassing

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: September 28, 2016 09:52


Thank you Cristiano! smiling smiley I was at the May 26th show, great to hear this and to know that there's an upcoming release of the (real) Albert Hall show. My devotion continues unabated, will be seeing him again this October and plan not to fall asleep. grinning smiley

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: September 28, 2016 11:47

Quote
andrea66
i think that one of the most interesting things about desert trip will be dylan's setlist. i think he will play more or less the same setlist as his recent tour, but honestly everything is unpredictable.
a japanese firend of mine went to tokyo to see him few months ago he told me that almost the whole audience was around 70 years old or more ( he is 56) and that many people fell asleep during the concert. if it is true, i find this very very embarassing

I find that happening a lot a gigs now. I went to see Roy Harper in London last week and a good chunk of the audience was 60 plus. Soon it will be a case of more wheelchairs than not. Eeek.

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: HonkeyTonkFlash ()
Date: September 28, 2016 11:58

Quote
Silver Dagger
Quote
andrea66
i think that one of the most interesting things about desert trip will be dylan's setlist. i think he will play more or less the same setlist as his recent tour, but honestly everything is unpredictable.
a japanese firend of mine went to tokyo to see him few months ago he told me that almost the whole audience was around 70 years old or more ( he is 56) and that many people fell asleep during the concert. if it is true, i find this very very embarassing

I find that happening a lot a gigs now. I went to see Roy Harper in London last week and a good chunk of the audience was 60 plus. Soon it will be a case of more wheelchairs than not. Eeek.

We are entering an era that has long been joked about and had cartoons drawn about it. Ageing rockers performing for an increasingly ageing audience. Oh well, this was inevitable. You're not likely to see 75 year old performers playing to a packed crowd of 20-somethings.

"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: September 28, 2016 22:30

That early version of Tell Me Momma... it is the same as the one thats on the famous Judas show right?

Re: OT: Bob Dylan news and more
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: September 28, 2016 22:38

Quote
RollingFreak
That early version of Tell Me Momma... it is the same as the one thats on the famous Judas show right?[/quote

The "Judas" show was in Manchester, 17 May and released on his Bootleg Series vol. 4.

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