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Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: January 23, 2015 16:42

Yep..totally agree.

To be fair I have to post this

under my thumb live at Altamont rolling stones.wmv: [youtu.be]

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 23, 2015 16:43

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Come On
The guys (Keith & Ron) were pretty busy for the time when 'Love you Live' is recorded....it's magic that they can play at all I think...They sounded much better 1978...

The El Mocambo-show from 1977 is on par with their best 78-stuff, though.







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Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: January 23, 2015 16:46

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DandelionPowderman
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Come On
The guys (Keith & Ron) were pretty busy for the time when 'Love you Live' is recorded....it's magic that they can play at all I think...They sounded much better 1978...

The El Mocambo-show from 1977 is on par with their best 78-stuff, though.



Mmmmaybe...but look at Keith on that pic...Vojne Vojne...too much Love in Vein..

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 23, 2015 16:47

Here's Keith in 1978 grinning smiley




Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: January 23, 2015 16:49

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DandelionPowderman
Here's Keith in 1978 grinning smiley



Yup, on a Jack D - trip this time...drinking smiley

2 1 2 0

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: January 23, 2015 17:02

He is high here...haha..the modest keith is over.
The beginning of the new era..no more shy keith



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Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 23, 2015 17:11

He's pretty high and outspoken here as well smiling smiley




Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 23, 2015 17:18

3:30 Cool Keith again...




Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 23, 2015 17:32

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DandelionPowderman
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Come On
The guys (Keith & Ron) were pretty busy for the time when 'Love you Live' is recorded....it's magic that they can play at all I think...They sounded much better 1978...

The El Mocambo-show from 1977 is on par with their best 78-stuff, though.



Jeeeeez. So the end of this is where they edited in the 'everything's all right in the critic's section' etc on LOVE YOU LIVE. Why didn't THIS song make THAT album!!??

Seems that they could have released, say, 3 sides from The Mocambo show and one side a best of the tour (Honky Tonk Women, Star Star, Fingerprint File and You Gotta Move).

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 23, 2015 19:00

You don't have the EM-boot, Skip? E-mail me if you're interested in the cd.

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: benon again ()
Date: January 23, 2015 20:39

The only unacceptable guitar sound for me was 1994 tour .Too clean , but at smaller venues one year later Keith's sound was gorgous.I like simplicity of his contemporary sound -it's like old very expensive Wine.89-90 was his greatest effort in searching for various expressions - raw sustained overdrive for solos ,several shades of clean and crunchy sounds.

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: gibsonman ()
Date: January 23, 2015 21:21

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MartinB
I seem to be the only one who likes Keith sound in the last tour. But I do.

Even the O2 concerts were great (sound-wise), and the 6 European gigs I have seen in 2014 were fabulous. Raw, dirty and meaty. Yeah, the 355 is a bit clinky, but otherwise Keith remains an example how the make to most from the simplest possible set up.

I also did like his sound on this tour. But especially his tele sound. For example I really enjoyed the sound on jjf. It was kind of right in your face sound. Not too distorded, but kind of dry and loud.... cool smiley

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: January 23, 2015 21:28

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Come On
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DandelionPowderman
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Come On
The guys (Keith & Ron) were pretty busy for the time when 'Love you Live' is recorded....it's magic that they can play at all I think...They sounded much better 1978...

The El Mocambo-show from 1977 is on par with their best 78-stuff, though.



Mmmmaybe...but look at Keith on that pic...Vojne Vojne...too much Love in Vein..
is it really important how Keith looks ? to me it's all about the music .to know the stones is to love the stones !!!

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: January 23, 2015 22:27

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Keith might be one of the only rock superstar guitarists who doesn't use a distortion/boost pedal of some sort. I think it limits his sounds unnecessarily and often wonder if he is too lazy or stubborn to experiment in that department. He might have boxed himself in early on when he was often quoted as saying "it's all in the fingers, we just plug the guitars into the amps and turn 'em up".

Keith has used various boost and distortion pedals since 1975. Volume boosts, line drivers, overdrives etc by MXR, Fulltone, Zinky, Boss, Boogie, Ibanez and what more. All are operated by the techs behind the amps.

Mathijs

Seems to me he is pretty sparse on his use of effects but I'd love to know what specifically he used on this last tour and on what tunes. Are the techs engaging the effects during songs for solos or is it just a "this effect for this song" approach. Strange that Keith doesn't want to control the effects himself but I guess the setlist and arrangements are so solid that the risks are few and results are predictable.

peace

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: January 23, 2015 23:09

@Naturalust, have you seen this: [www.iorr.org] ?

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: January 23, 2015 23:44

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Come On
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DandelionPowderman
Here's Keith in 1978 grinning smiley



Yup, on a Jack D - trip this time...drinking smiley

No thats heroin or possibly, since it's the short period just before the 1978 tour when he was on one of his methadone trips. He was back on heroin during the 1978 tour.



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Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: microvibe ()
Date: January 24, 2015 00:09

kr's best live tone was with a les paul thru ampegs imo

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: January 24, 2015 00:15

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Koen
@Naturalust, have you seen this: [www.iorr.org] ?

Yes thanks Koen, I've enjoyed some of the many guitar threads here on IORR. I was just hoping Mathijs could shed some light on the specific effects that Keith uses since they are hidden behind the amps and not so obvious as the guitars he is using.

I've made and used many pedalboards over the years and my bag of tricks is constantly evolving. I have two separate pedalboards, one for acoustic instruments and one for electric instruments. I think the only effect that hasn't changed in all the years is my trusty MXR Dyna Comp. smoking smiley

There is a good shot of the Tube Tape Echo he uses tucked behind his amp in this short video. It would be great to see a video of Pierre walking us through Keiths rig and effects ala the Premier Guitar rig rundown series.

[www.youtube.com]

peace

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: January 24, 2015 00:35


Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 24, 2015 02:25

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Redhotcarpet
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Come On
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DandelionPowderman
Here's Keith in 1978 grinning smiley



Yup, on a Jack D - trip this time...drinking smiley

No thats heroin or possibly, since it's the short period just before the 1978 tour when he was on one of his methadone trips. He was back on heroin during the 1978 tour.

Happy on methadone? No, that's heroin smiling smiley

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: January 24, 2015 02:44


Thx Redhotcarpet , but as usual pretty vague/sparse on the effects information. A Tube Screamer and a Tube Tape Echo is all he's using these days?
Maybe....

peace

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 24, 2015 11:29

On one of the rehearsal clips for this tour (She's So Cold) you could see MXRs and the phaser as well.

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: AllAboutYours ()
Date: January 24, 2015 12:35

That's Mick Taylor's pedalboard.

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DandelionPowderman
On one of the rehearsal clips for this tour (She's So Cold) you could see MXRs and the phaser as well.

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 24, 2015 13:02

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AllAboutYours
That's Mick Taylor's pedalboard.

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DandelionPowderman
On one of the rehearsal clips for this tour (She's So Cold) you could see MXRs and the phaser as well.

No it wasn't. There were two or three pedals. No Boss.

And it was the only time I've heard Keith play She's So Cold with a phaser.



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Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: January 24, 2015 13:53

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Naturalust

Thx Redhotcarpet , but as usual pretty vague/sparse on the effects information. A Tube Screamer and a Tube Tape Echo is all he's using these days?
Maybe....

peace
t

Some time ago, discussing this and other photos of Keith's 2005 rig we were able to identify the following

Full tone tube tape echo
Zinky master blaster booster
Mpx 100 lexicon
Ibanez ue400
Ibanez tube screamer

He uses a song by song setting

C

[www.fulltone.com]



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Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: AllAboutYours ()
Date: January 24, 2015 13:59

Okay.. I'll have to check that video again!

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DandelionPowderman
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AllAboutYours
That's Mick Taylor's pedalboard.

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DandelionPowderman
On one of the rehearsal clips for this tour (She's So Cold) you could see MXRs and the phaser as well.

No it wasn't. There were two or three pedals. No Boss.

And it was the only time I've heard Keith play She's So Cold with a phaser.

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 24, 2015 14:17

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AllAboutYours
Okay.. I'll have to check that video again!

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DandelionPowderman
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AllAboutYours
That's Mick Taylor's pedalboard.

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DandelionPowderman
On one of the rehearsal clips for this tour (She's So Cold) you could see MXRs and the phaser as well.

No it wasn't. There were two or three pedals. No Boss.

And it was the only time I've heard Keith play She's So Cold with a phaser.

Could have been a flash of several boards as well. Hard to tell from the quick clip

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: January 24, 2015 16:14

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Naturalust

Thx Redhotcarpet , but as usual pretty vague/sparse on the effects information. A Tube Screamer and a Tube Tape Echo is all he's using these days?
Maybe....

peace

Yeah I agree. I like this thread though, good info. Love it.

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Date: January 24, 2015 16:27

What would he be using the echo on, GS? Seemed all dry to me on the last tour.

Re: Keith and his guitar sound
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: January 24, 2015 22:12

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DandelionPowderman
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AllAboutYours
Okay.. I'll have to check that video again!

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DandelionPowderman
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AllAboutYours
That's Mick Taylor's pedalboard.

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DandelionPowderman
On one of the rehearsal clips for this tour (She's So Cold) you could see MXRs and the phaser as well.

No it wasn't. There were two or three pedals. No Boss.

And it was the only time I've heard Keith play She's So Cold with a phaser.

Could have been a flash of several boards as well. Hard to tell from the quick clip

Nice catch. Looks like an MXR Bass Envelope Filter, Boss BD-2 Blues Driver, and possibly an MXR Bass Fuzz Deluxe (?)...probably Darryl's gear would be my guess.

peace



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