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what a freakin' awesome singalong! not to be mean to
US audiences, but stuff like that only happens in europe.
don't wait for a next time, get yourself on a plane!

You're right it's cool, but Europe can enjoy the ballad shakeups, while us Americans will take the consolation prize of songs like Knocking, Sway, Shine A Light, and others with a little more drive to them.

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This video just goes to show that my ears did not deceive me on the weekend. SOL sounded fantastic. Listen to the crowd at the end!

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Of course it makes no sense to have Taylor on this and not on something like Tumbling Dice, but I'll take it. Many people (including Mick and Keith now, apparently) pigeonhole Taylor as a blues guitarist, but the man can go great things with a ballad. I just wish it was Winter and not SOL, but oh well.

If you listen to this SOL-version you'll find that some of Taylor's licks were really great on this song. And it's not blues.

Would you be just as happy if they brought out the bass for him to do TD?

I think at this stage the fans as well need to think outside the box. They have a set, but they want to do some unexpected things, too, once in a while. I think this was a nice surprise that went down really well - even though I'm not a big fan of the studio version. It is indeed good live, though.

I did listen, and you're right, he plays some nice stuff.

As to your list of songs he wasn't on the recorded version of (Gimme Selter, YCAGWYW, etc.), maybe, but he defined those songs live. As for him playing bass on Tumbling Dice, I have no problem with that either.

I agree. He helped defining new versions of these songs live. My point was that he musn't necessarily play what he did on the studio versions, as things like you mentioned happen when he touch newer stuff as well.

If Taylor is only permitted to play on songs he was originally featured on, by that logic we'd have Ronnie on 3 songs per show.

Full members get songwriting credits...if they write songs
If he was a guest, that is

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This video just goes to show that my ears did not deceive me on the weekend. SOL sounded fantastic. Listen to the crowd at the end!

Just remember that the Streets Of Love audio in that video actually is from Austin 2006, only the few seconds in the end of the video with the crowd singing is from Rome.

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Of course it makes no sense to have Taylor on this and not on something like Tumbling Dice, but I'll take it. Many people (including Mick and Keith now, apparently) pigeonhole Taylor as a blues guitarist, but the man can go great things with a ballad. I just wish it was Winter and not SOL, but oh well.

If you listen to this SOL-version you'll find that some of Taylor's licks were really great on this song. And it's not blues.

Would you be just as happy if they brought out the bass for him to do TD?

I think at this stage the fans as well need to think outside the box. They have a set, but they want to do some unexpected things, too, once in a while. I think this was a nice surprise that went down really well - even though I'm not a big fan of the studio version. It is indeed good live, though.

I did listen, and you're right, he plays some nice stuff.

As to your list of songs he wasn't on the recorded version of (Gimme Selter, YCAGWYW, etc.), maybe, but he defined those songs live. As for him playing bass on Tumbling Dice, I have no problem with that either.

Taylor is over the top enthusiastic and happy on stage. Maybe something is up beyond this tour for him and the band. Nevertheless I find it hard to be upset about his use when he seems blissed.

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Still, Skippy hasn't commented on this. I wonder what he has to say about the choice of SOL?

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Still, Skippy hasn't commented on this. I wonder what he has to say about the choice of SOL?

The original thread title says it all.

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I'm not a SOL-fan, on the contrary. The song is a bit of a sleazeball. But at least they are willing to try something new and even letting Mick Taylor in on it. So I guess we shouldn't complain...

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Of course it makes no sense to have Taylor on this and not on something like Tumbling Dice, but I'll take it. Many people (including Mick and Keith now, apparently) pigeonhole Taylor as a blues guitarist, but the man can go great things with a ballad. I just wish it was Winter and not SOL, but oh well.

If you listen to this SOL-version you'll find that some of Taylor's licks were really great on this song. And it's not blues.

Would you be just as happy if they brought out the bass for him to do TD?

I think at this stage the fans as well need to think outside the box. They have a set, but they want to do some unexpected things, too, once in a while. I think this was a nice surprise that went down really well - even though I'm not a big fan of the studio version. It is indeed good live, though.

I did listen, and you're right, he plays some nice stuff.

As to your list of songs he wasn't on the recorded version of (Gimme Selter, YCAGWYW, etc.), maybe, but he defined those songs live. As for him playing bass on Tumbling Dice, I have no problem with that either.

I agree. He helped defining new versions of these songs live. My point was that he musn't necessarily play what he did on the studio versions, as things like you mentioned happen when he touch newer stuff as well.

If Taylor is only permitted to play on songs he was originally featured on, by that logic we'd have Ronnie on 3 songs per show.

Full members get songwriting credits...if they write songs
If he was a guest, that is

You lost me there. Ronnie did indeed get credits before he was a full member? It was after he became a full member that Mick and Keith closed the shop. He can't have it both ways

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Did you go to the show? Do you live in Italy?

The song was played for those who went to the show, and it was probably one of the most popular songs of the entire performance in Rome. Just read the reports.

I was not in NYC in November 1969. And even if I was out of the country that does not disqualify me from saying that 1) SFTD is a great song; and 2) the band's performance of this song on the 28th was compelling. In later years Jagger's encouragement of the audience's "Woo-woo's" adds little to the performance even if making that noise is fun and enjoyable. I have trouble wrapping my mind around the center image of this song...the streets of love. When I saw the band perform it in Oakland...whenever '06?...Jagger gave it the hard sell and the song seemed interminable. On the big screen Keith looked...disinterested and almost mockingly amused. Nonetheless Taylor's involvement here is curious. I do not hear him doing much, but I wish I did. Many later career songs cry out for his tasteful touch. Biggest Mistake comes to mind. I do not think Taylor can save this song, but I'd like to hear him try. He almost did it with Angie.

But I think we can all agree Keith can be a self-centred prick, so that really observation really doesn't say anything other than it isn't a Keith song.

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I was there. The song was received in an absolutely enthousiastic way. And for sure it works much better live (my conclusion came from the ABB tour, not from Rome's gig only).

One of the most "popular" complaints here is that the Stones are rarely performing stuff from the post- 81 era. Rome's setlist included one song from 1989, one from 1997, one from 2005, one from 2012. Only VL was "out", but sometimes, in other cities, they play "YGMR".

Supposely, fans who usualy complain about the absence of rare songs should be happy with the Rome's list. But, no, now we have the "Why SOL?" game...

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Did you go to the show? Do you live in Italy?

The song was played for those who went to the show, and it was probably one of the most popular songs of the entire performance in Rome. Just read the reports.

I was not in NYC in November 1969. And even if I was out of the country that does not disqualify me from saying that 1) SFTD is a great song; and 2) the band's performance of this song on the 28th was compelling. In later years Jagger's encouragement of the audience's "Woo-woo's" adds little to the performance even if making that noise is fun and enjoyable. I have trouble wrapping my mind around the center image of this song...the streets of love. When I saw the band perform it in Oakland...whenever '06?...Jagger gave it the hard sell and the song seemed interminable. On the big screen Keith looked...disinterested and almost mockingly amused. Nonetheless Taylor's involvement here is curious. I do not hear him doing much, but I wish I did. Many later career songs cry out for his tasteful touch. Biggest Mistake comes to mind. I do not think Taylor can save this song, but I'd like to hear him try. He almost did it with Angie.

But I think we can all agree Keith can be a self-centred prick, so that really observation really doesn't say anything other than it isn't a Keith song.

Watch the ABB talking about the album video, that overcooked piece of PR on the extra disc edition. Keith clearly thinks the song stinks, he's just very nice about it. He added fairy dust to it. Just another mushy Jagger solo song under the name of the Stones. Fairy dust indeed.

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This video just goes to show that my ears did not deceive me on the weekend. SOL sounded fantastic. Listen to the crowd at the end!

Just remember that the Streets Of Love audio in that video actually is from Austin 2006, only the few seconds in the end of the video with the crowd singing is from Rome.

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I was there. The song was received in an absolutely enthousiastic way. And for sure it works much better live (my conclusion came from the ABB tour, not from Rome's gig only).

One of the most "popular" complaints here is that the Stones are rarely performing stuff from the post- 81 era. Rome's setlist included one song from 1989, one from 1997, one from 2005, one from 2012. Only VL was "out", but sometimes, in other cities, they play "YGMR".

Supposely, fans who usualy complain about the absence of rare songs should be happy with the Rome's list. But, no, now we have the "Why SOL?" game...

Look at the songs...

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I was there. The song was received in an absolutely enthousiastic way. And for sure it works much better live (my conclusion came from the ABB tour, not from Rome's gig only).

One of the most "popular" complaints here is that the Stones are rarely performing stuff from the post- 81 era. Rome's setlist included one song from 1989, one from 1997, one from 2005, one from 2012. Only VL was "out", but sometimes, in other cities, they play "YGMR".

Supposely, fans who usualy complain about the absence of rare songs should be happy with the Rome's list. But, no, now we have the "Why SOL?" game...

Look at the songs...

If given the choice I would rather have Mick Taylor on Back Of My Hand. I totally get why it was played in Rome. I don't care that it was played and am glad that people enjoyed it. The two times I saw it in 2006 I enjoyed it but, personally, I never have the desire to hear it again.

In contrast, Back Of My Hand I heard a bunch of times (5 maybe) in 2005 and I never got tired of it. Killer song.

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Why would the Stones officially post a video on YouTube from the 2014 tour with the audio from the 2006 tour that has 2 acoustic guitars in it (neither of which are doing what you see in the video!) yet the video shows only one acoustic with MT playing and magically you can't hear a thing he's playing?
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Why not post the 2014 audio?

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Why would the Stones officially post a video on YouTube from the 2014 tour with the audio from the 2006 tour that has 2 acoustic guitars in it (neither of which are doing what you see in the video!) yet the video shows only one acoustic with MT playing and magically you can't hear a thing he's playing?
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Why not post the 2014 audio?

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Watch the ABB talking about the album video, that overcooked piece of PR on the extra disc edition. Keith clearly thinks the song stinks, he's just very nice about it. He added fairy dust to it. Just another mushy Jagger solo song under the name of the Stones. Fairy dust indeed.

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I actually like Biggest Mistake. It's a gazillion times better than Streets Of Awful Bad.

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Could Keith put fairy dust on it as well? Maybe they could bring up the mix so we can really hear Dave Stewart as well.