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chriseganstarThe Mighty Who were indeed mighty bloody good tonight at Eden. Rogers voice is unbelievably good, fantastic set as described previously for other gigs. Acoustics at the Eden Project are the best you can get, natural bowl. Smallest venue on the tour...6,000 max in glorious summer weather. A true privilege to have witnessed 2¼ hours of the most stunning music that's been the backdrop to all of us of a certain age !Quote
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Anyone who is seeing the mighty WHO at the EDEN Project this evening .... reports please !
Thank you Chris, I look forward to your comments .....
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I can’t see that happening tbh. 60th Anniversary is too close not to round it off
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Cristiano Radtke
The superdeluxe edition (109 tracks!) of Who's Next/Lifehouse is already up on YouTube, Spotify and some other streaming services.
From what I've listened so far, this is a great release. Many songs are sounding better than never and the 1971 live concert at San Francisco Civic Auditorium is stellar.
A big shoutout to the late great Nicky Hopkins, whose playing shines throughout many of these tracks.
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Cristiano Radtke
The superdeluxe edition (109 tracks!) of Who's Next/Lifehouse is already up on YouTube, Spotify and some other streaming services.
From what I've listened so far, this is a great release. Many songs are sounding better than never and the 1971 live concert at San Francisco Civic Auditorium is stellar.
A big shoutout to the late great Nicky Hopkins, whose playing shines throughout many of these tracks.
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keefriffhards
I just don't want the Stones carrying on like the Who and Aerosmith, just a pathetic image of their former selves.
I haven’t seen Aerosmith for ages (last time 2004), but The Who were amazing when I caught them in Chester-le-Street in July.
The Who can be amazing, and still be a pale shadow of their former selves. When firing on all cylinders, the original 4 members were incredibly powerful.
Well, the last public performance by The Who with the original four members was at the Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, Canada, October 21, 1976, which is 47 years ago. After that, the group played three performances in the TV studios as well as two at a small theatre for the purpose of documentary shooting before Keith Moon’s death in 1978. Do you say the hundreds of the shows they played afterwords to this day were by the group that is “a pale shadow of their former selves”? And did keefriffhards mean it that way when he put they are “just a pathetic image of their former selves”?
If so, through the large part of their career (for 45 out of 60 years), they have been a shadow or pathetic image of their former selves.
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keefriffhards
I just don't want the Stones carrying on like the Who and Aerosmith, just a pathetic image of their former selves.
I haven’t seen Aerosmith for ages (last time 2004), but The Who were amazing when I caught them in Chester-le-Street in July.
The Who can be amazing, and still be a pale shadow of their former selves. When firing on all cylinders, the original 4 members were incredibly powerful.
Well, the last public performance by The Who with the original four members was at the Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, Canada, October 21, 1976, which is 47 years ago. After that, the group played three performances in the TV studios as well as two at a small theatre for the purpose of documentary shooting before Keith Moon’s death in 1978. Do you say the hundreds of the shows they played afterwords to this day were by the group that is “a pale shadow of their former selves”? And did keefriffhards mean it that way when he put they are “just a pathetic image of their former selves”?
If so, through the large part of their career (for 45 out of 60 years), they have been a shadow or pathetic image of their former selves.
I’ve seen The Who with Keith, Kenny Jones, Ox and Zak, and Pino and Zak. They put on a great show every time (except the time Roger had to leave to get Oxygen). The last time I saw them with Entwistle, at a Bridge School Benefit in 1999, I thought they were maybe 60% of what they’d been —- but they were still the best band on a bill with Neil, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day, etc. After that, they had even less power -- but could still be superb. IMHO they can be amazing today — but also be a pale shadow of the power, skill, and fury they once brought to the stage.
Now, back to praising the Lifehouse release.
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RollingFreak
I saw them on the Quadrophenia tour in what, 2012? Listen, I obviously know that its not "The Who" but its Who's Left, and thats enough for me. I'm not trying to justify that they should tour as The Who when its just those two.
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RollingFreak
I saw them on the Quadrophenia tour in what, 2012? Listen, I obviously know that its not "The Who" but its Who's Left, and thats enough for me. I'm not trying to justify that they should tour as The Who when its just those two.
Sorry but it's exactly the same with The Rolling Stones without Charlie, Bill, Brian or Mick (Taylor)...
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RollingFreak
I've never argued that I agree with the Stones still being called The Stones lol. Certainly not without Charlie in my mind. Up until then, I bought it with 3 originals and one longterm. Can't have everything. But I don't consider them The Rolling Stones since Charlie died.
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keefriffhards
I just don't want the Stones carrying on like the Who and Aerosmith, just a pathetic image of their former selves.
I haven’t seen Aerosmith for ages (last time 2004), but The Who were amazing when I caught them in Chester-le-Street in July.
The Who can be amazing, and still be a pale shadow of their former selves. When firing on all cylinders, the original 4 members were incredibly powerful.
Well, the last public performance by The Who with the original four members was at the Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, Canada, October 21, 1976, which is 47 years ago. After that, the group played three performances in the TV studios as well as two at a small theatre for the purpose of documentary shooting before Keith Moon’s death in 1978. Do you say the hundreds of the shows they played afterwords to this day were by the group that is “a pale shadow of their former selves”? And did keefriffhards mean it that way when he put they are “just a pathetic image of their former selves”?
If so, through the large part of their career (for 45 out of 60 years), they have been a shadow or pathetic image of their former selves.
I’ve seen The Who with Keith, Kenny Jones, Ox and Zak, and Pino and Zak. They put on a great show every time (except the time Roger had to leave to get Oxygen). The last time I saw them with Entwistle, at a Bridge School Benefit in 1999, I thought they were maybe 60% of what they’d been —- but they were still the best band on a bill with Neil, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day, etc. After that, they had even less power -- but could still be superb. IMHO they can be amazing today — but also be a pale shadow of the power, skill, and fury they once brought to the stage.
Now, back to praising the Lifehouse release.
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keefriffhards
Replying to your comment on the tour thread, I'm also OK with Mick reducing movement on stage, I'd welcome it if it improves his singing and gives his vocals the much needed power that's missing, the sort of power Roger is able to still create.
Back to not sure what they can offer live in 2024 after a 2 year pause, it goes without saying Keith gets rusty, but more worrying last time out in 22' was a very much diminished Ronnie who for most of the decades he's been with the Stones has been the weak link anyway, ok he got his shit together for a while to cover Keith but really he can't cover himself most of the time.
If they do make it to do some shows next year i hope they bring back Taylor or someone to strengthen the sound. Also as time went on Charlie is greatly misses on some songs like PIB.
It's a bit like a boxer who goes into the ring once too often with Mick, seeing him lately clearly underweight and looking hagard i can't see him pulling it off after the injury but i hope to God he and the rest of them prove me wrong as i don't want them to be like THE WHO this year, it's so disappointing to see them like this, no where near the energy level required to play this music.
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keefriffhards
Replying to your comment on the tour thread, I'm also OK with Mick reducing movement on stage, I'd welcome it if it improves his singing and gives his vocals the much needed power that's missing, the sort of power Roger is able to still create.
Back to not sure what they can offer live in 2024 after a 2 year pause, it goes without saying Keith gets rusty, but more worrying last time out in 22' was a very much diminished Ronnie who for most of the decades he's been with the Stones has been the weak link anyway, ok he got his shit together for a while to cover Keith but really he can't cover himself most of the time.
If they do make it to do some shows next year i hope they bring back Taylor or someone to strengthen the sound. Also as time went on Charlie is greatly misses on some songs like PIB.
It's a bit like a boxer who goes into the ring once too often with Mick, seeing him lately clearly underweight and looking hagard i can't see him pulling it off after the injury but i hope to God he and the rest of them prove me wrong as i don't want them to be like THE WHO this year, it's so disappointing to see them like this, no where near the energy level required to play this music.
A couple of questions: 1. When did you see The Who live for the first time? 2. Did you see them this year? If so, what’s your take on the show?
I understand your concerns about Keith and Ronnie. If I remember your post from last year correctly, you saw Hyde Park #2. Am I right? I attended both HP shows, and on night #1 Keith was great, his play spot on. On night #2, not so much. Ronnie was more or less the same on both nights. Erratic is the word to describe Keith’s play these days. He may have been like that for a long time, though — more and more so as time goes by, perhaps.
I felt the Stones last year and The Who this year were both equally brilliant in their respective ways.
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Replying to your comment on the tour thread, I'm also OK with Mick reducing movement on stage, I'd welcome it if it improves his singing and gives his vocals the much needed power that's missing, the sort of power Roger is able to still create.
Back to not sure what they can offer live in 2024 after a 2 year pause, it goes without saying Keith gets rusty, but more worrying last time out in 22' was a very much diminished Ronnie who for most of the decades he's been with the Stones has been the weak link anyway, ok he got his shit together for a while to cover Keith but really he can't cover himself most of the time.
If they do make it to do some shows next year i hope they bring back Taylor or someone to strengthen the sound. Also as time went on Charlie is greatly misses on some songs like PIB.
It's a bit like a boxer who goes into the ring once too often with Mick, seeing him lately clearly underweight and looking hagard i can't see him pulling it off after the injury but i hope to God he and the rest of them prove me wrong as i don't want them to be like THE WHO this year, it's so disappointing to see them like this, no where near the energy level required to play this music.
A couple of questions: 1. When did you see The Who live for the first time? 2. Did you see them this year? If so, what’s your take on the show?
I understand your concerns about Keith and Ronnie. If I remember your post from last year correctly, you saw Hyde Park #2. Am I right? I attended both HP shows, and on night #1 Keith was great, his play spot on. On night #2, not so much. Ronnie was more or less the same on both nights. Erratic is the word to describe Keith’s play these days. He may have been like that for a long time, though — more and more so as time goes by, perhaps.
I felt the Stones last year and The Who this year were both equally brilliant in their respective ways.
I saw The Who for the first time at Wembley Arena in 89' a bit weird because Pete said he had tinnitus and played accustic guitar behind a soundproofing screen hehe.
Seen them many times since and they were always brilliant, over the years Rogers voice has had its ups and downs but it was strong recently.
To be honest Pete is my man, just love his enthusiasm in his playing and back in the day he was incredible to watch, kind of fronted the band more than the front man.
Last year i attended the second Hyde Park show, a bit disappointing from Keith as you pointed out but from the shows I've seen on YouTube especially Berlin Keith was getting back to a good standard of playing again, but now two years off, it's not going to be good is it.
Can't believe you remembered my post, i don't remember anything much from last year haha.
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Replying to your comment on the tour thread, I'm also OK with Mick reducing movement on stage, I'd welcome it if it improves his singing and gives his vocals the much needed power that's missing, the sort of power Roger is able to still create.
Back to not sure what they can offer live in 2024 after a 2 year pause, it goes without saying Keith gets rusty, but more worrying last time out in 22' was a very much diminished Ronnie who for most of the decades he's been with the Stones has been the weak link anyway, ok he got his shit together for a while to cover Keith but really he can't cover himself most of the time.
If they do make it to do some shows next year i hope they bring back Taylor or someone to strengthen the sound. Also as time went on Charlie is greatly misses on some songs like PIB.
It's a bit like a boxer who goes into the ring once too often with Mick, seeing him lately clearly underweight and looking hagard i can't see him pulling it off after the injury but i hope to God he and the rest of them prove me wrong as i don't want them to be like THE WHO this year, it's so disappointing to see them like this, no where near the energy level required to play this music.
A couple of questions: 1. When did you see The Who live for the first time? 2. Did you see them this year? If so, what’s your take on the show?
I understand your concerns about Keith and Ronnie. If I remember your post from last year correctly, you saw Hyde Park #2. Am I right? I attended both HP shows, and on night #1 Keith was great, his play spot on. On night #2, not so much. Ronnie was more or less the same on both nights. Erratic is the word to describe Keith’s play these days. He may have been like that for a long time, though — more and more so as time goes by, perhaps.
I felt the Stones last year and The Who this year were both equally brilliant in their respective ways.
I saw The Who for the first time at Wembley Arena in 89' a bit weird because Pete said he had tinnitus and played accustic guitar behind a soundproofing screen hehe.
Seen them many times since and they were always brilliant, over the years Rogers voice has had its ups and downs but it was strong recently.
To be honest Pete is my man, just love his enthusiasm in his playing and back in the day he was incredible to watch, kind of fronted the band more than the front man.
Last year i attended the second Hyde Park show, a bit disappointing from Keith as you pointed out but from the shows I've seen on YouTube especially Berlin Keith was getting back to a good standard of playing again, but now two years off, it's not going to be good is it.
Can't believe you remembered my post, i don't remember anything much from last year haha.
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keefriffhards
No didn't see this years show.
I can still compare The Who to the days of Moon, there's so much incredible footage available through the years.
As you say, The Who on a bad day is still a great show, but I'm a bit of a shallow person in some ways, seeing old guys hardly move doesn't cut it for me, this music requires a level of energy to do it justice and unless it's Dylan i won't pay the sort of money they are charging and travel to see old farts play the warhorses anymore.
Dylan always offers something different and creative, i wish I'd got into him 40 years ago, the body of work from that man is blowing my mind daily, its limitless genius.
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keefriffhards
No didn't see this years show.
I can still compare The Who to the days of Moon, there's so much incredible footage available through the years.
As you say, The Who on a bad day is still a great show, but I'm a bit of a shallow person in some ways, seeing old guys hardly move doesn't cut it for me, this music requires a level of energy to do it justice and unless it's Dylan i won't pay the sort of money they are charging and travel to see old farts play the warhorses anymore.
Dylan always offers something different and creative, i wish I'd got into him 40 years ago, the body of work from that man is blowing my mind daily, its limitless genius.
Go back and see the posts that started on top of the page 102 on this thread by those who attended The Who show this year, including one who had seen them with Keith Moon. Praise after praise, literally. They may have different views from you or bam.
Wish you had gone out of the way to catch one show…
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keefriffhards
Just listening to some of the orchestra tour again, it's inspiring, spinetingly good, Roger is singing better than for so long, how lol.
They played very near me at The Eden Project but friends of mine said Pete wasn't very good so wasn't too bothered i couldn't make it.
Pleased you enjoyed the shows you caught though.
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chriseganstar
The Mighty Who were indeed mighty bloody good tonight at Eden. Rogers voice is unbelievably good, fantastic set as described previously for other gigs. Acoustics at the Eden Project are the best you can get, natural bowl. Smallest venue on the tour...6,000 max in glorious summer weather. A true privilege to have witnessed 2¼ hours of the most stunning music that's been the backdrop to all of us of a certain age !