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Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: November 16, 2021 22:05

The Stone's often don't get full credit for how great they are. That is part of their mystique.



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Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: November 16, 2021 22:07

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treaclefingers


MJ on the other hand goes out of his way to defend, famous example of that is challenging the reporter who slagged Dylan's singing.

Anyway, says a lot I think about these people.

That's a good point. He always takes the high road.

Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 16, 2021 22:27

Things have been tough thru
Covid years so ya gotta honor
The Stones for lettin Macca and
Daltrey make a quick $$$buck on the
side workin for the Stones publicity team .....



ROCKMAN

Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: Natlanta ()
Date: November 16, 2021 22:43


Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: November 17, 2021 02:22

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Taylor1
The Who will be long forgotten when people are still listening to the Stones

Who?

Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: November 17, 2021 02:27

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Rockman
Things have been tough thru
Covid years so ya gotta honor
The Stones for lettin Macca and
Daltrey make a quick $$$buck on the
side workin for the Stones publicity team .....

Both had big ticket items themselves to push as well..
Well, Macca had big ticket items. Daltrey had fair/casino circuit tix to move (which didn't last time out) winking smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: umakmehrd ()
Date: November 17, 2021 02:37

Oh Roger "I can't explain" Just listen the Stones are the greatest RnR band ever..


Roger Roger "Song is over" get back on your "Magic Bus" and have a "Happy Jack"

Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: 1cdog ()
Date: November 17, 2021 02:45

Yoko Daltry should be an expert on the word "mediocre."

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Date: November 17, 2021 13:39

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Doxa

Why is that these old legendary British rock stars are all turning to sound like old, bitter, jealous, stupid farts? Macca, Roger, Van, Eric... Is it just the age?

- Doxa

Jealousy, what else? Jeff Beck complimented the Stones with their legacy, calling it "designer sloppiness","still filling stadiums". He even joined the Stones in 2012. And it was big fun, albeit for one song.



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Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: JJHMick ()
Date: November 17, 2021 18:49

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JadedFaded
The Who were a very good studio band. The Stones are a phenomenal live band. That’s why I’ve seen The Who twice and I’ve seen the Stones 60 times. Mediocre my ass!

I disagree, they are phenomenal live too (5 times Who live, 17 times Stones - Join the Who, Ronnie, they don't tour that often?!).
Sometimes, I felt the Stones were too much of a show band - watching. The Who always were a concert band - listening.

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: TumblinDice76 ()
Date: November 17, 2021 19:13

The Who are defanetly a phenomenonal live band to call them simply a studio band is ridiculous. The Beatles were the studio band.

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: floodonthepage ()
Date: November 17, 2021 20:48

Tickets were being sold for $5-10 the last time The Who ("The Two") came to Alpine Valley (WI) a couple years ago, to help fill the seats. $5. It's more expensive to go to a movie. I think that speaks volumes about local public opinion about a Who concert vs. a Stones concert.



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Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: November 17, 2021 20:50

They sold out three nights at the Hollywood Bowl a couple of years ago, and were better than the Stones at Desert Trip both weekends.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: November 17, 2021 20:55

Sure they were. Lol.

Beef isn't with the band.
Daltry couldn't sell out a county fair or small casino in my neck of the woods.

Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: floodonthepage ()
Date: November 17, 2021 21:29

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treaclefingers
There's an insecurity that's evident in people that have to shoot others down...it somehow lifts them up.

These (minor) 'attacks' from Daltrey & McCartney are completely unprovoked...you never hear them coming from Mick.

MJ on the other hand goes out of his way to defend, famous example of that is challenging the reporter who slagged Dylan's singing.

Anyway, says a lot I think about these people.

thumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs up

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 17, 2021 22:01

Daltrey commments no big deal really ......
Pommies have always loved sledging each other ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 17, 2021 22:12











ROCKMAN

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: bye bye johnny ()
Date: November 17, 2021 23:01

Watch/listen to Roger Daltrey's comments starting @ 26:40:



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Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: November 17, 2021 23:52

Thanks bye bye johnny.

Hats off to Roger - he clearly has respect for the Stones, and especially Mick.
Looking healthy, full of life, good sense of humour, and always speaks from his heart - long live rock. thumbs up

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: spikenyc ()
Date: November 18, 2021 00:40

"Why Do the Rolling Stones Keep Getting Insulted by Their Peers?"

[www.insidehook.com]

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: crawdaddy ()
Date: November 18, 2021 01:44

Thanks for posting bbj. smileys with beer

What a lovely interview with Roger.

He obviously has got great admiration for The Stones as well as The Beatles, The Kinks and probably so many more great acts.
And of course The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Kinks and The Beatles have all lost members but have carried on in their own way over the years........ as solo or duet acts Roger and Pete , and have got the best of the best whenever they play a live gig and always great to see them performing on stage again. smileys with beer

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: November 18, 2021 04:29

Yeah I found him condescending and a bit dismissive, Mick comments aside.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion of course.

Re: The Rolling Stones are a "mediocre pub band" says Roger Daltrey
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: November 18, 2021 05:32

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Natlanta

Gosh, is this real?

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: crholmstrom ()
Date: January 13, 2022 12:56

I was in a Who mood yesterday & played a boot (soundboard) of the entire set at Woodstock. This was an eventful show. First, things were running very late & the band didn't go on until 5:00 AM. Then, someone dosed them with LSD before they went on. During Tommy, Abbie Hoffman stormed the stage & started spouting gibberish. Pete didn't take kindly to this & hit him with his guitar & told him to get off his f'n stage. Even with this, the band sounded amazing through Tommy. Things went a bit south after that. I was particularly struck by Keith Moon's drums during Sparks. Totally amazing. He got locked into a groove that was almost African sounding & beat the hell out of the band. It was a case of lead drums in a very good way. I can't get enough of this era of the band.

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: Bol ()
Date: January 13, 2022 16:09

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crholmstrom
I was in a Who mood yesterday & played a boot (soundboard) of the entire set at Woodstock. This was an eventful show. First, things were running very late & the band didn't go on until 5:00 AM. Then, someone dosed them with LSD before they went on. During Tommy, Abbie Hoffman stormed the stage & started spouting gibberish. Pete didn't take kindly to this & hit him with his guitar & told him to get off his f'n stage. Even with this, the band sounded amazing through Tommy. Things went a bit south after that. I was particularly struck by Keith Moon's drums during Sparks. Totally amazing. He got locked into a groove that was almost African sounding & beat the hell out of the band. It was a case of lead drums in a very good way. I can't get enough of this era of the band.

Have you heard Tanglewood 1970? It's a great Tommy era show.

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: crholmstrom ()
Date: January 13, 2022 16:36

Quote
Bol
Quote
crholmstrom
I was in a Who mood yesterday & played a boot (soundboard) of the entire set at Woodstock. This was an eventful show. First, things were running very late & the band didn't go on until 5:00 AM. Then, someone dosed them with LSD before they went on. During Tommy, Abbie Hoffman stormed the stage & started spouting gibberish. Pete didn't take kindly to this & hit him with his guitar & told him to get off his f'n stage. Even with this, the band sounded amazing through Tommy. Things went a bit south after that. I was particularly struck by Keith Moon's drums during Sparks. Totally amazing. He got locked into a groove that was almost African sounding & beat the hell out of the band. It was a case of lead drums in a very good way. I can't get enough of this era of the band.

Have you heard Tanglewood 1970? It's a great Tommy era show.

Yes, I've heard it & it's awesome. There's a weird energy during the Woodstock performance that I'm sure has to do with the acid. I think Pete had given it up by then & Roger didn't partake. Roger's vocals are wilder than usual. Another good one is Long Beach (don't remember the exact year but it's in this era). That one is just violent. They were an amazing band back in the day. I love Tommy but like the live versions more. Pete had to cut the guitar overdubs short as they were headed out on the road. I always thought the album could've used more guitar. Live they certainly rectified that. One more good one is Hull the night before Live @ Leeds was recorded. The Who live have been well documented from about 1968 on as I'm sure you know.

Edit: My bad. The Long Beach show was 1971. It's worth checking out~!



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Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: Bol ()
Date: January 13, 2022 16:47

The Long Beach recording is Closer To Queen Mary from December 1971 and I agree that is a great one too.

The 2013 reissue of Tommy is a significant improvement on the original with a sound much closer to Who's Next and Quadrophenia.

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: January 13, 2022 19:31

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crholmstrom
Quote
Bol
Quote
crholmstrom
I was in a Who mood yesterday & played a boot (soundboard) of the entire set at Woodstock. This was an eventful show. First, things were running very late & the band didn't go on until 5:00 AM. Then, someone dosed them with LSD before they went on. During Tommy, Abbie Hoffman stormed the stage & started spouting gibberish. Pete didn't take kindly to this & hit him with his guitar & told him to get off his f'n stage. Even with this, the band sounded amazing through Tommy. Things went a bit south after that. I was particularly struck by Keith Moon's drums during Sparks. Totally amazing. He got locked into a groove that was almost African sounding & beat the hell out of the band. It was a case of lead drums in a very good way. I can't get enough of this era of the band.

Have you heard Tanglewood 1970? It's a great Tommy era show.

Yes, I've heard it & it's awesome. There's a weird energy during the Woodstock performance that I'm sure has to do with the acid. I think Pete had given it up by then & Roger didn't partake. Roger's vocals are wilder than usual. Another good one is Long Beach (don't remember the exact year but it's in this era). That one is just violent. They were an amazing band back in the day. I love Tommy but like the live versions more. Pete had to cut the guitar overdubs short as they were headed out on the road. I always thought the album could've used more guitar. Live they certainly rectified that. One more good one is Hull the night before Live @ Leeds was recorded. The Who live have been well documented from about 1968 on as I'm sure you know.

Edit: My bad. The Long Beach show was 1971. It's worth checking out~!

I've heard Woodstock and Tanglewood many times and both excellent shows, but different for the reasons you mention. Tanglewood I know well because my dad was at that show so he likes to rub it in. I think he saw them twice at Tanglewood two consecutive years. I always forget which is which, but I think once was with Jefferson Airplane and the next year was with Jethro Tull opening. Tanglewood they are really on fire. Woodstock is great in a kind of rambleshackle way. I didn't know that about the LSD and definitely that and playing at what, 3AM in the total darkness had something to do with it. Its a freewheeling performance and I've also been listening to a lot of Woodstock recently (CSNY, Creedence, Hendrix, The Who) so its very fresh in my mind.

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: crholmstrom ()
Date: January 13, 2022 20:27

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RollingFreak
Quote
crholmstrom
Quote
Bol
Quote
crholmstrom
I was in a Who mood yesterday & played a boot (soundboard) of the entire set at Woodstock. This was an eventful show. First, things were running very late & the band didn't go on until 5:00 AM. Then, someone dosed them with LSD before they went on. During Tommy, Abbie Hoffman stormed the stage & started spouting gibberish. Pete didn't take kindly to this & hit him with his guitar & told him to get off his f'n stage. Even with this, the band sounded amazing through Tommy. Things went a bit south after that. I was particularly struck by Keith Moon's drums during Sparks. Totally amazing. He got locked into a groove that was almost African sounding & beat the hell out of the band. It was a case of lead drums in a very good way. I can't get enough of this era of the band.

Have you heard Tanglewood 1970? It's a great Tommy era show.

Yes, I've heard it & it's awesome. There's a weird energy during the Woodstock performance that I'm sure has to do with the acid. I think Pete had given it up by then & Roger didn't partake. Roger's vocals are wilder than usual. Another good one is Long Beach (don't remember the exact year but it's in this era). That one is just violent. They were an amazing band back in the day. I love Tommy but like the live versions more. Pete had to cut the guitar overdubs short as they were headed out on the road. I always thought the album could've used more guitar. Live they certainly rectified that. One more good one is Hull the night before Live @ Leeds was recorded. The Who live have been well documented from about 1968 on as I'm sure you know.

Edit: My bad. The Long Beach show was 1971. It's worth checking out~!

I've heard Woodstock and Tanglewood many times and both excellent shows, but different for the reasons you mention. Tanglewood I know well because my dad was at that show so he likes to rub it in. I think he saw them twice at Tanglewood two consecutive years. I always forget which is which, but I think once was with Jefferson Airplane and the next year was with Jethro Tull opening. Tanglewood they are really on fire. Woodstock is great in a kind of rambleshackle way. I didn't know that about the LSD and definitely that and playing at what, 3AM in the total darkness had something to do with it. Its a freewheeling performance and I've also been listening to a lot of Woodstock recently (CSNY, Creedence, Hendrix, The Who) so its very fresh in my mind.

The acid story is well documented. They were tripping balls & did not take it knowingly (well Keith you never know). The story is they went on at 5AM & as they were playing the big finish of Tommy the sun came up behind the stage. The Abbie Hoffman story is documented too & you can hear it happening at the end of Pinball Wizard. Sorry if this is stuff you know. I'm older than dirt & did over 25 years in the music biz before it went away. I like to share stuff with people who are younger than me. My goddaughter (I helped raise her) loves the Who. I took her to see them as one of her early shows. She loves Bob Dylan too. Of course she likes stuff more her age but she has good taste. Except for Mumford & Sons, haha.

Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: January 13, 2022 23:22

No I love it! I know most of that background stuff but had just never heard the acid thing. They played it pretty damn well for being out of it, AND in the wee hours of the morning. They're glorious in the film. Sounds like my father is very similar to you and has instilled most of this useless knowledge in my head from an early age lol.

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