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Yeah being 81 and eventually just needing to slow down probably doesn't factor into it...
These guys aren't immortal.
Ha, Daltry look so much younger for 9/11, so it wasn't that one clearly.
This is a ridiculous statement
Boston 2002 (filmed show) he has his shirt unbuttoned for it iirc.
That absolutely nails it.
I hope their tour sells horribly - it appears to be so with the ridiculous high prices - and they cancel.
Two Idiots.
Ignorant and beyond rude.
Just like Mick at Circus Krone
Could not agree more.
On the other hand, they're both in their 80s...the amount of sh*t I let slide from my parents is disturbing!
There’s $97 tickets on TM for the Van City show, not tempted at all?
I wouldn't enjoy the show in a $97 seat in the back or nosebleeds so that isn't compelling. At Shoreline Amphitheater the seats I have for Neil Young are half the price of the Who tickets. Maybe if Zak was the drummer.
Time will tell if the tour sells out. Fan reaction will determine its success as a band. There may be a lot of people that are thinking, They fired Zak again? and will be disgusted enough to not buy a ticket.
That is true for anyone who keeps up with The Who. I would guess that the average punter in the USA has no idea about their most recent RAH show and what ensued.
wow seriously?
i didn't think this could get dumber then rodger goes and proves me wrong
as a fan this is all very disappointing
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-05-22 14:00 by ProfessorWolf.
Maybe this is the only way they can get this PR at 81? He won't exactly come across as mr. nice guy, but they get lots of media attention.
I can't think of another reason for this kind of behaviour ...
well putting on my tin foil conspiracy cap
maybe this is his excuse for backing out of the tour after the backlash from the way they (rodger) treated zak
and correct me if i'm wrong but this kind of thing is gonna get more attention in the british press then the american press
so how would that help promote a tour in america?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-05-22 15:15 by ProfessorWolf.
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Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
RollingFreak
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Date: May 20, 2025 18:29
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babyblue
A friend was saying just other day Roger must have a health issue if this is last tour… hmmm
Yeah being 81 and eventually just needing to slow down probably doesn't factor into it...
These guys aren't immortal.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
kkhoranstoned
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Date: May 20, 2025 18:58
would like to go opening night but gainsville shit..has total wiped out my life.
one lie...
one lie...
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
treaclefingers
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Date: May 20, 2025 19:13
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treaclefingers
Seeing Roger onstage shirtless in the 2000s (can't remember what show that was from, 9/11? Wasn't there another benefit concert for NYC after a hurricane?) was enough to convince me they had long jumped the shark.
The Who were sublime at the Concert For New York in 2001.
The Who also appeared at 12-12-12: The Concert for Sandy Relief
[www.dailymotion.com]
Daltrey was fully clothed at both of those appearances.
Ha, Daltry look so much younger for 9/11, so it wasn't that one clearly.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
Bastion
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Date: May 20, 2025 21:37
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babyblue
That’s unfortunate bout Zak. Yes it’s time Who retired. I won’t be going to the Vancouver show.I’ve never seen them at all.
Go to the show. They still kick ass live. Still a better live band than 95 percent of other bands out there. They play tight and sound great
This is a ridiculous statement
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
tommycharles
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Date: May 21, 2025 04:09
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treaclefingersQuote
bye bye johnnyQuote
treaclefingers
Seeing Roger onstage shirtless in the 2000s (can't remember what show that was from, 9/11? Wasn't there another benefit concert for NYC after a hurricane?) was enough to convince me they had long jumped the shark.
The Who were sublime at the Concert For New York in 2001.
The Who also appeared at 12-12-12: The Concert for Sandy Relief
[www.dailymotion.com]
Daltrey was fully clothed at both of those appearances.
Ha, Daltry look so much younger for 9/11, so it wasn't that one clearly.
Boston 2002 (filmed show) he has his shirt unbuttoned for it iirc.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: May 21, 2025 06:38
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Why are people defending Starkey? Nobody was there to know the full story.
it's a good point but at the moment it sure looks like rodger wanted zak out so he could have his solo drummer in the band instead
but i'm open to hearing rodger and pete's side of this
And him having done the same thing to Rabbit 15 years ago (which has also been worse for the band imo), I think he has form here.
Yup:
1. They did the same thing with Rabbit, which Pete openly admits. He said in that interview not long ago if he was putting together the band he wanted he'd include Rabbit and that still apparently doesn't hold any sway (ironically in that interview he also says he wouldn't pick Zak for drums, so take that for what it is)
But more importantly 2. maybe there's a justifiable reason to let Zak go, even after all this time, but I genuinely can't think of a reason to fire him, rehire him, then fire him again. Fire him then go out as Pete did and say "this was all blown out of proportion and don't believe everything you read" only to fire him again. If you were gonna do it anyway, ride out the bad press and stick to your guns. But doing this in the way they have... even if Zak had reasons to be let go its just cruel to do it twice. Its like them switching the Max streaming service back to HBO Max. You know there's people on the team being like "we literally JUST said its not this one thing, now we're doing this again." Its incompetence to an insane degree, and while it won't taint the Who for me and their legacy (not like I haven't looked past the Townshend kiddie porn stuff), it's certainly a bad look, is just plain disrespectful, and feels so avoidable. You've got like 20-50 shows left of your career, what a dumb wrench to throw in right at the end.
That absolutely nails it.
I hope their tour sells horribly - it appears to be so with the ridiculous high prices - and they cancel.
Two Idiots.
Ignorant and beyond rude.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
hockenheim95
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Date: May 21, 2025 09:23
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tommycharlesQuote
treaclefingersQuote
bye bye johnnyQuote
treaclefingers
Seeing Roger onstage shirtless in the 2000s (can't remember what show that was from, 9/11? Wasn't there another benefit concert for NYC after a hurricane?) was enough to convince me they had long jumped the shark.
The Who were sublime at the Concert For New York in 2001.
The Who also appeared at 12-12-12: The Concert for Sandy Relief
[www.dailymotion.com]
Daltrey was fully clothed at both of those appearances.
Ha, Daltry look so much younger for 9/11, so it wasn't that one clearly.
Boston 2002 (filmed show) he has his shirt unbuttoned for it iirc.
Just like Mick at Circus Krone
OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: May 21, 2025 17:00
Newly Announced Who Touring Drummer Scott Devours Says He Feels a “Tsunami of Emotions” in the Wake of Zak Starkey’s Firing
By Matt Friedlander
May 20, 2025
In the wake of The Who announcing that the band has officially parted ways with longtime touring drummer Zak Starkey, Starkey’s replacement, Scott Devours, has posted a lengthy message on his social media pages sharing his feelings about getting the coveted gig.
In his note, Devours expressed extreme excitement about taking on drumming duties for The Who, while acknowledging that he realizes many fans are upset about Starkey’s departure from the legendary British group.
Devours began by referencing the message that Who co-founders Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey posted on the band’s socials on May 18 that announcing Scott is the group’s new drummer.
“[W]ith a short, simple Instagram post, Pete and Roger, once again, changed my life forever,” Devours wrote. “It’s hard to express the tsunami of emotions that I’m processing since that incredible news, but there are a couple of things I feel compelled to say.”
He started by thanking his family, friends, and fans who sent him messages congratulating him.
“The amount of positivity thrown my way has been overwhelming,” Scott said. “I truly thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Also, please don’t ask me for tickets, lol.”
On the Mixed Emotions He’s Feeling Because of Starkey’s Exit
Devours then addressed the fans that undoubtedly have negative feelings about Starkey’s exit from The Who.
“I understand and accept the reality that there are many lifelong Who fans who are absolutely gutted by the news that Zak is no longer on the throne behind The Who,” he noted. “As a huge fan myself, there is a part of me that’s processing this loss with a heavy heart too. It really is a strange contradiction of emotions to have the greatest moment of my professional career also be one framed with some sadness and shadowed by someone else’s loss.”
Scott added, “It’s tough to put into words actually, but I know it’s there and it’s real.”
Devours then pointed out that the “reality” of the situation was that “many fans … will not accept me or anyone on that throne except for Zak.”
He continued, “I know that this will be the case for some and I acknowledge that. For others, perhaps the jury is still out. Maybe I’ll need to let the music do the talking?”
Wants to Honor the Legacy of The Who’s Previous Drummers
Devours then talked about the pressure he’s facing becoming The Who’s drummer.
“In my world, there are no bigger shoes to fill than those behind Pete and Roger,” he maintained. “The weight of this responsibility is enormous and I am feeling every ounce of it. What I want to say to all of the fans is that I will do everything I can to honor the legacy of The Who, Zak, Kenney Jones, Simon Phillips and the memory of the great Keith Moon. For my name to even be mentioned in a sentence like that literally sends shivers down my spine and I know I need to earn this honor.”
Devours also commented on the fact that The Who’s recently announced The Song Is Over Tour is slated to be the band’s final trek to visit the U.S.
“Since this is the last time Pete and Roger will be touring the US, playing the greatest songs ever written, I will be giving them every second of my time, every beat of my heart, and every drop of my sweat and blood,” he insisted. “This is my ultimate goal.”
Scott added, “But this tour isn’t about me or anyone other than The Who, which IS Pete and Roger. I will give them everything I have and the rest is soon to be history.”
Devours concluded, “Thank you for reading this. Now I’m going to go throw up, lol.”
More About Devours
Devours, 58, is based in New York City, and has played with a variety of band’s, including Oleander. For more than a decade, he has been a member of Daltrey’s solo touring band.
Scott filled in for Starkey at some of The Who’s 2012 and 2013 tour dates when Zak was injured.
[americansongwriter.com]
By Matt Friedlander
May 20, 2025
In the wake of The Who announcing that the band has officially parted ways with longtime touring drummer Zak Starkey, Starkey’s replacement, Scott Devours, has posted a lengthy message on his social media pages sharing his feelings about getting the coveted gig.
In his note, Devours expressed extreme excitement about taking on drumming duties for The Who, while acknowledging that he realizes many fans are upset about Starkey’s departure from the legendary British group.
Devours began by referencing the message that Who co-founders Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey posted on the band’s socials on May 18 that announcing Scott is the group’s new drummer.
“[W]ith a short, simple Instagram post, Pete and Roger, once again, changed my life forever,” Devours wrote. “It’s hard to express the tsunami of emotions that I’m processing since that incredible news, but there are a couple of things I feel compelled to say.”
He started by thanking his family, friends, and fans who sent him messages congratulating him.
“The amount of positivity thrown my way has been overwhelming,” Scott said. “I truly thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Also, please don’t ask me for tickets, lol.”
On the Mixed Emotions He’s Feeling Because of Starkey’s Exit
Devours then addressed the fans that undoubtedly have negative feelings about Starkey’s exit from The Who.
“I understand and accept the reality that there are many lifelong Who fans who are absolutely gutted by the news that Zak is no longer on the throne behind The Who,” he noted. “As a huge fan myself, there is a part of me that’s processing this loss with a heavy heart too. It really is a strange contradiction of emotions to have the greatest moment of my professional career also be one framed with some sadness and shadowed by someone else’s loss.”
Scott added, “It’s tough to put into words actually, but I know it’s there and it’s real.”
Devours then pointed out that the “reality” of the situation was that “many fans … will not accept me or anyone on that throne except for Zak.”
He continued, “I know that this will be the case for some and I acknowledge that. For others, perhaps the jury is still out. Maybe I’ll need to let the music do the talking?”
Wants to Honor the Legacy of The Who’s Previous Drummers
Devours then talked about the pressure he’s facing becoming The Who’s drummer.
“In my world, there are no bigger shoes to fill than those behind Pete and Roger,” he maintained. “The weight of this responsibility is enormous and I am feeling every ounce of it. What I want to say to all of the fans is that I will do everything I can to honor the legacy of The Who, Zak, Kenney Jones, Simon Phillips and the memory of the great Keith Moon. For my name to even be mentioned in a sentence like that literally sends shivers down my spine and I know I need to earn this honor.”
Devours also commented on the fact that The Who’s recently announced The Song Is Over Tour is slated to be the band’s final trek to visit the U.S.
“Since this is the last time Pete and Roger will be touring the US, playing the greatest songs ever written, I will be giving them every second of my time, every beat of my heart, and every drop of my sweat and blood,” he insisted. “This is my ultimate goal.”
Scott added, “But this tour isn’t about me or anyone other than The Who, which IS Pete and Roger. I will give them everything I have and the rest is soon to be history.”
Devours concluded, “Thank you for reading this. Now I’m going to go throw up, lol.”
More About Devours
Devours, 58, is based in New York City, and has played with a variety of band’s, including Oleander. For more than a decade, he has been a member of Daltrey’s solo touring band.
Scott filled in for Starkey at some of The Who’s 2012 and 2013 tour dates when Zak was injured.
[americansongwriter.com]
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
windmelody
()
Date: May 21, 2025 17:04
Zak Starkey is a good drummer, I attended an Oasis concert in which he played. Townshend and Daltrey are free to do what they want to do - but treating a long tim colleague like that twice in a row is stupid and shabby, I agree with those who already wrote that.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-05-21 17:12 by windmelody.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: May 21, 2025 17:17
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windmelody
Zak Starkey is a good drummer, I attended an Oasis concert in which he played. Townshend and Daltrey are free to do what they want to do - but treating a long tim colleague like that twice in a row is stupid and shabby, I agree with those who already wrote that.
Could not agree more.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
RollingFreak
()
Date: May 21, 2025 19:02
If anything, the poor announcement hurts everyone. It hurts Pete and Roger's credibility. Its a huge blow to those that love Zak. And most importantly its not really a fair and unbiased introduction for Scott. It puts him at such a disadvantage from the start, which is not how he should have to start his job. I'm sure he's great, but no one can really even focus on that when the Zak stuff was handled so poorly.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: May 21, 2025 19:32
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RollingFreak
If anything, the poor announcement hurts everyone. It hurts Pete and Roger's credibility. Its a huge blow to those that love Zak. And most importantly its not really a fair and unbiased introduction for Scott. It puts him at such a disadvantage from the start, which is not how he should have to start his job. I'm sure he's great, but no one can really even focus on that when the Zak stuff was handled so poorly.
On the other hand, they're both in their 80s...the amount of sh*t I let slide from my parents is disturbing!
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
umakmehrd
()
Date: May 21, 2025 21:37
There has to more to the story than we know.... I'm going to go anyway to send off Roger & Pete for all the great music they created - still get chills listening to Live at Leeds..
Then the song is truly over
Then the song is truly over
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
schillid
()
Date: May 21, 2025 21:54
People try to call us The Who
Even though we're down to two
The things we do seem awful cold
Band members axed them lies we told
Talkin' 'bout my aggravation
Even though we're down to two
The things we do seem awful cold
Band members axed them lies we told
Talkin' 'bout my aggravation
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
frankotero
()
Date: May 21, 2025 23:02
Personally I don't think this will affect the tour. In the end it will be sold out and people will say they loved it. For the record I'm also in disagreement about Zac's departure. Take it or leave, that's the hard truth.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
Paddy
()
Date: May 21, 2025 23:28
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babyblue
That’s unfortunate bout Zak. Yes it’s time Who retired. I won’t be going to the Vancouver show.I’ve never seen them at all.
There’s $97 tickets on TM for the Van City show, not tempted at all?
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
daspyknows
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Date: May 22, 2025 00:00
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babyblue
That’s unfortunate bout Zak. Yes it’s time Who retired. I won’t be going to the Vancouver show.I’ve never seen them at all.
There’s $97 tickets on TM for the Van City show, not tempted at all?
I wouldn't enjoy the show in a $97 seat in the back or nosebleeds so that isn't compelling. At Shoreline Amphitheater the seats I have for Neil Young are half the price of the Who tickets. Maybe if Zak was the drummer.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
umakmehrd
()
Date: May 22, 2025 01:02
Lol enjoy Neil please send us a pic of the ticket price
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
umakmehrd
()
Date: May 22, 2025 01:59
Lawn tickets for Neil Young at Amphitheater are 80.75 US dollars
next lowest price is 197 US dollars then 258 US dollars
next lowest price is 197 US dollars then 258 US dollars
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: May 22, 2025 05:08
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frankotero
Personally I don't think this will affect the tour. In the end it will be sold out and people will say they loved it. For the record I'm also in disagreement about Zac's departure. Take it or leave, that's the hard truth.
Time will tell if the tour sells out. Fan reaction will determine its success as a band. There may be a lot of people that are thinking, They fired Zak again? and will be disgusted enough to not buy a ticket.
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
mosthigh
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Date: May 22, 2025 05:32
Anything that keeps them in the headlines is good for ticket sales.
"There is no such thing as bad press"
"There is no such thing as bad press"
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
RollingFreak
()
Date: May 22, 2025 06:02
Quote
mosthigh
Anything that keeps them in the headlines is good for ticket sales.
"There is no such thing as bad press"
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
Paddy
()
Date: May 22, 2025 09:37
Quote
umakmehrd
Lawn tickets for Neil Young at Amphitheater are 80.75 US dollars
next lowest price is 197 US dollars then 258 US dollars
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
Beast
()
Date: May 22, 2025 12:37
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GasLightStreetQuote
frankotero
Personally I don't think this will affect the tour. In the end it will be sold out and people will say they loved it. For the record I'm also in disagreement about Zac's departure. Take it or leave, that's the hard truth.
Time will tell if the tour sells out. Fan reaction will determine its success as a band. There may be a lot of people that are thinking, They fired Zak again? and will be disgusted enough to not buy a ticket.
That is true for anyone who keeps up with The Who. I would guess that the average punter in the USA has no idea about their most recent RAH show and what ensued.
OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: May 22, 2025 13:32
From Daily Mail's EDEN CONFIDENTIAL column:
Who stars' war of words before last tour even starts!
Is the Who’s ‘farewell’ tour of the US already under threat?
First, the drummer Zak Starkey was kicked out of the veteran rock group for the second time in a month. Now, Roger Daltrey says he wasn’t impressed by Pete Townshend’s remark that being in the band after 61 years is like ‘flogging a dead horse’.
Daltrey retorts: ‘If Pete doesn’t want to tour, I don’t want to be back with The Who on the road, at 81, with someone who doesn’t want be there — if that’s what he’s saying. I won’t do it with someone who is half-hearted about it. But, you know, every dog has its day and it was a wonderful ride.’
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
Who stars' war of words before last tour even starts!
Is the Who’s ‘farewell’ tour of the US already under threat?
First, the drummer Zak Starkey was kicked out of the veteran rock group for the second time in a month. Now, Roger Daltrey says he wasn’t impressed by Pete Townshend’s remark that being in the band after 61 years is like ‘flogging a dead horse’.
Daltrey retorts: ‘If Pete doesn’t want to tour, I don’t want to be back with The Who on the road, at 81, with someone who doesn’t want be there — if that’s what he’s saying. I won’t do it with someone who is half-hearted about it. But, you know, every dog has its day and it was a wonderful ride.’
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: May 22, 2025 13:59
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bye bye johnny
From Daily Mail's EDEN CONFIDENTIAL column:
Who stars' war of words before last tour even starts!
Is the Who’s ‘farewell’ tour of the US already under threat?
First, the drummer Zak Starkey was kicked out of the veteran rock group for the second time in a month. Now, Roger Daltrey says he wasn’t impressed by Pete Townshend’s remark that being in the band after 61 years is like ‘flogging a dead horse’.
Daltrey retorts: ‘If Pete doesn’t want to tour, I don’t want to be back with The Who on the road, at 81, with someone who doesn’t want be there — if that’s what he’s saying. I won’t do it with someone who is half-hearted about it. But, you know, every dog has its day and it was a wonderful ride.’
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
wow seriously?
i didn't think this could get dumber then rodger goes and proves me wrong
as a fan this is all very disappointing
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Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: May 22, 2025 14:28
Oh, bloody hell! This is turning into a right, old, soap opera, isn't it?
What's next? Somewhere in London: handbags at dawn?
What's next? Somewhere in London: handbags at dawn?
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: May 22, 2025 14:33
Quote
ProfessorWolfQuote
bye bye johnny
From Daily Mail's EDEN CONFIDENTIAL column:
Who stars' war of words before last tour even starts!
Is the Who’s ‘farewell’ tour of the US already under threat?
First, the drummer Zak Starkey was kicked out of the veteran rock group for the second time in a month. Now, Roger Daltrey says he wasn’t impressed by Pete Townshend’s remark that being in the band after 61 years is like ‘flogging a dead horse’.
Daltrey retorts: ‘If Pete doesn’t want to tour, I don’t want to be back with The Who on the road, at 81, with someone who doesn’t want be there — if that’s what he’s saying. I won’t do it with someone who is half-hearted about it. But, you know, every dog has its day and it was a wonderful ride.’
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
wow seriously?
i didn't think this could get dumber then rodger goes and proves me wrong
as a fan this is all very disappointing
Maybe this is the only way they can get this PR at 81? He won't exactly come across as mr. nice guy, but they get lots of media attention.
I can't think of another reason for this kind of behaviour ...
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
MadMax
()
Date: May 22, 2025 15:09
Yep Dandy, you are most certainly correct
Re: OT: The Who stuff
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: May 22, 2025 15:10
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
ProfessorWolfQuote
bye bye johnny
From Daily Mail's EDEN CONFIDENTIAL column:
Who stars' war of words before last tour even starts!
Is the Who’s ‘farewell’ tour of the US already under threat?
First, the drummer Zak Starkey was kicked out of the veteran rock group for the second time in a month. Now, Roger Daltrey says he wasn’t impressed by Pete Townshend’s remark that being in the band after 61 years is like ‘flogging a dead horse’.
Daltrey retorts: ‘If Pete doesn’t want to tour, I don’t want to be back with The Who on the road, at 81, with someone who doesn’t want be there — if that’s what he’s saying. I won’t do it with someone who is half-hearted about it. But, you know, every dog has its day and it was a wonderful ride.’
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
wow seriously?
i didn't think this could get dumber then rodger goes and proves me wrong
as a fan this is all very disappointing
Maybe this is the only way they can get this PR at 81? He won't exactly come across as mr. nice guy, but they get lots of media attention.
I can't think of another reason for this kind of behaviour ...
well putting on my tin foil conspiracy cap
maybe this is his excuse for backing out of the tour after the backlash from the way they (rodger) treated zak
and correct me if i'm wrong but this kind of thing is gonna get more attention in the british press then the american press
so how would that help promote a tour in america?
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