Karma for treating Zak like that. I feel sorry for Pete.

The Who belongs to the BIG 4: Beatles, Stones, The Who and Led Zep.


This is such a shame.



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It would be nice if they brought this final tour to some of the countries they haven't visited in a very long time, such as Australia and New Zealand.

Although 50% of The Who are still performing songs that PT wrote their sound is not what The Who became famous for. Without the unique Keith Moon on drums, you can no longer hear the Who live. Only a weak cover version.

Similarly the Stones have been three different sounding bands (Jones, Taylor, Wood) but their fame, success and money all originates from the first band with Brian………..just look at all the sixties songs that they still cover.

Both The Who and The Stones still play great live shows………………….but none of them are or can ever be what they once were.

To hang on for whatever reason and risk damaging their great legacies is imho a great mistake.

I suspect Mick and Keith may be watching progress of The Who very closely and considering adjusting their own plans accordingly.

The band has meant so much to me over time that I can’t resist catching a couple of shows on this last run, but overall the Roger era (2012- ) has been pretty disappointing, starting with sacking Rabbit and ending with sacking Zak.

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Toronto, with 3x the population has 2 shows but only 15000+ at each one, Budweiser Stage. So a little over half of what Vancouver has to sell. But that looks just as bad and those shows are a month away.

I’ve been toying with the idea of going - saw them at RAH in 2024 and was really blown away - but tickets are $240 for the rear section and $806 for the front areas. A helluva lot pricier than RAH, and there are a few other shows I’m trying to catch. Tickets on the lawn are $60 … Looking at the rather dismal seating chart, sales are dead in the water. But, the Who did do their first Last Concert Ever in Toronto in 1982 so, for sentimental reasons, kinda feel I have to see them out the door for reals. Decisions, decisions…

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Although 50% of The Who are still performing songs that PT wrote their sound is not what The Who became famous for. Without the unique Keith Moon on drums, you can no longer hear the Who live. Only a weak cover version.

Similarly the Stones have been three different sounding bands (Jones, Taylor, Wood) but their fame, success and money all originates from the first band with Brian………..just look at all the sixties songs that they still cover.

Both The Who and The Stones still play great live shows………………….but none of them are or can ever be what they once were.

To hang on for whatever reason and risk damaging their great legacies is imho a great mistake.

I suspect Mick and Keith may be watching progress of The Who very closely and considering adjusting their own plans accordingly.

why and how does either of them doing lackluster tours in there eighties half a century removed from there heyday and moment of greatest cultural relvance somehow in any way affect there long term legacys?

does anyone think in fifty years when someone listens to tommy they'll be thinking of a tour the band did 56 years after they recorded it?

to be clear i think this tour based on how it's selling is probably a bad idea

not to mention how awfully they treated zak

but i doubt it'll really damage there legacy

there legacy is the 60's and 70's same for the stones

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I think the Who were never as big as some of their contemporaries, not to mention other 70s-80s stadium rock acts, and, more significantly, they have toured a lot over the last decade or so.

This is also not the first time they've used the 'final tour' label (it started in '82).

There's just not the interest any more.

If they wanted to bow out in an interesting way, they should have considered a couple of shows in London, make a big deal of it, and then actually go away.

(I speak as a huge Who fan, I just wonder what the hell their management is thinking lately - crappy artwork, messaging, media etc)

Agreed with all of this. The Who ARE in that top 4 or 5 of classic rock acts with Zep, the Stones and the Beatles, it genuinely do believe that. And when I last saw them in 2012, they could still pull a pretty easy arena crowd. Cut to 10 years later and that's not the case, for I think many of the reasons you've said. They've toured A LOT, and the farewell thing kinda means jack shit at this point. Its probably true because of their age, but we'd have known that without the announcement. They announced because they needed to sell some more tickets, and their last arena run in the states was pretty poor. I guess they thought this would drum up interest, but any goodwill they might have bought they lost with the drummer stuff I think. Just bad press.

I don't necessarily feel bad for Pete. He talks at length mostly about how he doesn't want to do it, and frankly no one is forcing him to. So I don't wish anything bad on he or Roger, I'd love them to go out triumphantly. But Roger's seeming leadership and Pete's apathy kinda make this totally track. If you don't care, why should anyone else. Hope it doesn't go as poorly as it looks, cause they obviously don't deserve that, but this does feel mismanaged on so many fronts.

While there are elements and times I'd kinda wished the Stones hung it up, especially after Charlie, they are very different than the Who. The Stones still regularly play stadiums. The Who haven't in forever. I'd be surprised current Who stuff will make the Stones reconsider anything. Its two different leagues. For what its worth, the Stones have played it well with keeping interest up.



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Toronto, with 3x the population has 2 shows but only 15000+ at each one, Budweiser Stage. So a little over half of what Vancouver has to sell. But that looks just as bad and those shows are a month away.

I’ve been toying with the idea of going - saw them at RAH in 2024 and was really blown away - but tickets are $240 for the rear section and $806 for the front areas. A helluva lot pricier than RAH, and there are a few other shows I’m trying to catch. Tickets on the lawn are $60 … Looking at the rather dismal seating chart, sales are dead in the water. But, the Who did do their first Last Concert Ever in Toronto in 1982 so, for sentimental reasons, kinda feel I have to see them out the door for reals. Decisions, decisions…

I suspect scalpers are going to get eviscerated on this...maybe you can pick up some screaming deals. I think that may be what I try. I agree, this is overpriced and clearly the market thinks so.

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I think the Who were never as big as some of their contemporaries, not to mention other 70s-80s stadium rock acts, and, more significantly, they have toured a lot over the last decade or so.

This is also not the first time they've used the 'final tour' label (it started in '82).

There's just not the interest any more.

If they wanted to bow out in an interesting way, they should have considered a couple of shows in London, make a big deal of it, and then actually go away.

(I speak as a huge Who fan, I just wonder what the hell their management is thinking lately - crappy artwork, messaging, media etc)

Agreed with all of this. The Who ARE in that top 4 or 5 of classic rock acts with Zep, the Stones and the Beatles, it genuinely do believe that. And when I last saw them in 2012, they could still pull a pretty easy arena crowd. Cut to 10 years later and that's not the case, for I think many of the reasons you've said. They've toured A LOT, and the farewell thing kinda means jack shit at this point. Its probably true because of their age, but we'd have known that without the announcement. They announced because they needed to sell some more tickets, and their last arena run in the states was pretty poor. I guess they thought this would drum up interest, but any goodwill they might have bought they lost with the drummer stuff I think. Just bad press.

I don't necessarily feel bad for Pete. He talks at length mostly about how he doesn't want to do it, and frankly no one is forcing him to. So I don't wish anything bad on he or Roger, I'd love them to go out triumphantly. But Roger's seeming leadership and Pete's apathy kinda make this totally track. If you don't care, why should anyone else. Hope it doesn't go as poorly as it looks, cause they obviously don't deserve that, but this does feel mismanaged on so many fronts.

While there are elements and times I'd kinda wished the Stones hung it up, especially after Charlie, they are very different than the Who. The Stones still regularly play stadiums. The Who haven't in forever. I'd be surprised current Who stuff will make the Stones reconsider anything. Its two different leagues. For what its worth, the Stones have played it well with keeping interest up.

The Stones have better music, a marketing machine, and most of all, Mick.

As you've opined they are in different leagues and while they may watch this once great band stagger into the abyss for clues at the end of the day the Stones will continue as long as they see fit. Even if it were to get to a point where stadiums were no longer viable, arenas would be easy to fill.

Dude, they'll be virtually giving the tickets away in the days before the show

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I suspect scalpers are going to get eviscerated on this...maybe you can pick up some screaming deals. I think that may be what I try. I agree, this is overpriced and clearly the market thinks so.

Agree that’s the best strategy if I’m in the city … I’d love to score a victory over those buzzards. What they’ve done (been allowed to do) with McCartney is beyond disgusting.

Roger Daltrey at 81: ‘I’m nervous about making it to the end of this tour’

The Who’s lead singer on the band’s final tour, losing his hearing and sight, accepting a knighthood and what really happened with Zak Starkey

Will Hodgkinson
August 01, 2025


Rick Guest

While the irony of Roger Daltrey singing “hope I die before I get old” as he enters his ninth decade has been mined to the point of cliché, nobody could have guessed in the Sixties that this one-time figure of rebellion would be bestowed with a knighthood. In 1965 Pete Townshend wrote the Who’s My Generation after the Queen Mother objected to the sight of his car, a Packard hearse, on the streets of Belgravia and commanded it be towed away. Now the man who sang Townshend’s words of defiance against the old order is to become a sir.

“It is weird,” says Daltrey, sitting at a wooden table in the garden of his house in Chiswick in west London, of being embraced by the establishment. “But it’s great for the charity, so I accept it on behalf of all the unsung heroes who have helped me with it. It will open doors.”

Since 2000 Daltrey has been staging annual fundraising concerts at the Royal Albert Hall for Teenage Cancer Trust, which was set up in 1990 to provide specialist units for young people suffering from cancer. Is that why he was given the knighthood? “Of course, but the honours system is in desperate need of updating. It’s a weird club to be a part of and I’m not entirely comfortable with it. Still, I’m not going to be here much longer. If I live another ten years it will be way past anyone in my family, and it’s important for Teenage Cancer Trust to continue. We were seeing teenagers put in wards alongside two-year-olds or geriatrics and the isolation was devastating. The environment of someone suffering from a serious illness is every bit as important as a good drug.”

Daltrey is a strange mix: a former Labour voter who now says that “Labour has made us a country for the f***ing scroungers”; a self-made millionaire with a dedication to charity and a reputation for generosity; a man who has spent the past six decades in a creative partnership with someone who couldn’t be more different. As Townshend told me in 2019: “I’m a Remainer, he’s a Brexiteer. I believe in God, he doesn’t.” Yet they have stayed together, surviving the deaths of the drummer Keith Moon and the bassist John Entwistle. Townshend and Daltrey are, rather like Noel and Liam Gallagher, the odd couple who need each other.

Now the partnership that has defined the Who since the 1964 single I Can’t Explain, Townshend’s tale of a young mod who wants to tell his girlfriend he loves her but can’t because he’s taken too many amphetamines, is coming to an end. The Who announced in May that they are to embark on The Song Is Over, their last tour of the US. Does this mean the end of UK concerts too?

“This is certainly the last time you will see us on tour,” says Daltrey, looking somewhat agitated at the prospect. “It’s gruelling. In the days when I was singing Who songs for three hours a night, six nights a week, I was working harder than most footballers. As to whether we’ll play [one-off] concerts again, I don’t know. The Who to me is very perplexing.”

Wasn’t the Who, a combustible entity formed of the tortured genius of Townshend, the stoicism of Entwistle, the wildness of Moon and the rock-god charisma of Daltrey, always perplexing? “Yes, but with all the potential future years in front of you, you could handle it. I’m going to be 82 next year. Fortunately, my voice is still as good as ever. I’m still singing in the same keys and it’s still bloody loud, but I can’t tell you if it will still be there in October. There’s a big part of me that’s going: I just hope I make it through.”

The main problem is the effects of contracting meningitis nine years ago. “It’s done a lot of damage,” he says. “It’s buggered up my internal thermometer, so every time I start singing in any climate over 75 degrees I’m wringing with sweat, which drains my body salts. The potential to get really ill is there and, I have to be honest, I’m nervous about making it to the end of the tour.”

He thinks he destroyed his hearing even before he joined the band, while working in a sheet metal factory in Acton when he was 16. At the Teenage Cancer Trust concert in March, he revealed that not only was he going deaf but he was losing his sight too. If he lost his voice, he told the audience, he would “go the full Tommy”. Unlike many rockers his age, Daltrey doesn’t use an Autocue. “There’s no point. Can’t f***ing see it!” he roars. How is his sight now? “Not good,” he replies, from behind tinted shades. “I’ve got an incurable macular degeneration.

Nevertheless, he’s determined to give American audiences a great show, in part to thank them for raising the members of the Who out of the postwar malaise they grew up under. “I want to give the songs the same amount of passion as I did the first time round,” he says. “But it’s not easy when you’re dealing with a partner who can be ambivalent about it.”

Townshend has stated on several occasions that he doesn’t enjoy touring. “So he says until he’s out there — and he loves the money. But look at those early Who concerts. Every night was a war. That’s how we got the music across. We’re not going to turn into f***ing Abba overnight, are we?”

They certainly aren’t, as proven by Daltrey’s well publicised issues with the Who’s former drummer Zak Starkey. The son of Ringo Starr was fired from the band in April, reinstated, then fired again two weeks later. What happened?

“An audience can see what’s happening on stage and have a complete misunderstanding of what’s actually going on,” says Daltrey, referring to the Who’s concert at the Royal Albert Hall in March, where the problems began. Starkey shot out a few barbs after the event. “What happened was I got it right and Roger got it wrong,” he claimed in an interview with The Telegraph, while on Instagram Starkey dismissed a statement that he retired from the Who as “total bollox”.

“It was kind of a character assassination and it was incredibly upsetting,” Daltrey says of Starkey’s remarks.

In fact, the whole thing started over a technicality. Daltrey explains that the drums used in a Who concert are electronic so that he can hear them through his in-ear monitors. “It is controlled by a guy on the side, and we had so much sub-bass on the sound of the drums that I couldn’t pitch. I was pointing to the bass drum and screaming at him because it was like flying a plane without seeing the horizon. So when Zak thought I was having a go at him, I wasn’t. That’s all that happened.”

Then how come Starkey was back in the band, then out again? “Pete and I retain the right to be the Who. Everyone else is a session player. You can’t replace Keith Moon. We wanted to branch out and that’s all I want to say about it. But [Starkey’s reaction] was crippling to me.”

Not that life in the Who was ever easy. “John [Entwistle] was very funny, but he was a dark character with a vicious streak,” he says of the bassist. “He was brought up by his mum and a stepdad he didn’t like, and he was an addict who managed to survive for as long as he did. As for Moony [Keith Moon], sometimes you wanted to kill him but f*** he could be funny. Having said that, in today’s world where everything is banned — how dare you laugh! — a lot of things he did weren’t very funny if you were on the receiving end. But Moony was just a big kid, really.”

In late 1965 Daltrey got sacked from the band himself, albeit briefly, for beating up Moon after the drummer gave drugs to Entwistle and Townshend. “He used to hate me because I stood in front of him,” he says of Moon. “He wanted the drums on the front of the stage, so I used to get drumsticks in the back of the head. Despite it all, I cared about him.”

Daltrey says that from 1968 to 1975 the Who changed music. He says he felt totally connected to Townshend’s writing, even if he didn’t always know what Townshend was going on about. Who’s Next, the band’s 1971 masterpiece and one of the greatest rock albums, was built round the aborted rock opera Lifehouse, a vision of an apocalyptic future where music is banned, pollution has rendered the outside world uninhabitable and citizens are connected to each other via an internet-like system called the Grid. When I ask Daltrey if he understood Townshend’s ideas for Lifehouse, he bursts into laughter.

“Pete’s ideas are a stream of consciousness without a thread of narrative, and that’s the problem,” Daltrey says. “I’ve always tried to help him find a thread, vocally and emotionally. With Lifehouse I said to Pete, ‘What the f*** is this about?’ He was into his religious thing at the time, so he was searching for the meaning of life and he said it might be found in a musical note. It was a mess of ideas and it didn’t make any sense. And he didn’t just want to make an album; he also wanted it to be a film. No chance!”

Nevertheless, Daltrey remains in awe of the guitarist and songwriter’s talent. “Tommy is the best opera ever written,” he decrees. “And I’ve seen a lot of the grand operas.”

For his part, Townshend says that Daltrey set the model for the golden-haired rock god — a look since taken up by Robert Plant and countless others. “It’s only because I didn’t get a haircut,” Daltrey says, guffawing wildly. “Couldn’t afford it. It wasn’t until ’68 that we got our first pay cheques. Up until then Keith Moon was spending it all.”

All these years later, Daltrey is determined to rock until he drops, whether the Who keep touring or not. “Never, never retire. You’ll be dead in three years. Daytime TV will kill you.” What is the most lethal programme, I ask… Cash in the Attic? “Oh, you’ve seen it have you?”

The Who have 60 years behind them. What does Daltrey consider to be the band’s legacy?

“That’s a tricky one,” he says, after being momentarily, atypically stuck for words. “We ploughed our own furrow. We were not the pop of the Beatles or the bluesy connection of the Stones. All I can say is that we marched to our own drum.”

He thinks about this for a moment.

“And we had a madman on the drums.”

[www.thetimes.com]

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“And we had a madman on the drums.”

Nice kicker.

> But [Starkey’s reaction] was crippling to me.”

Piss off, Roger. You wanted your drummer of 30 years to go away quietly and voluntarily, and he didn’t. That’s just life. Don’t act hurt, you did it.

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> But [Starkey’s reaction] was crippling to me.”

Piss off, Roger. You wanted your drummer of 30 years to go away quietly and voluntarily, and he didn’t. That’s just life. Don’t act hurt, you did it.

He's obviously allowed to say whatever he wants, but its funny he wants to express that yet still not really go into why everything that went down, did. If you want to address it, address it, but if you don't then there's no real need to be cagey. It only serves to really make him look worse IMO. The non answers make it seem like a NASA level secret, when its probably just a personal matter they had that they want to keep within the band. That's fine, but just say no comment then or demand people not ask about it.

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Dude, they'll be virtually giving the tickets away in the days before the show

That's what I'm thinking too.

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I think the Who were never as big as some of their contemporaries, not to mention other 70s-80s stadium rock acts, and, more significantly, they have toured a lot over the last decade or so.

This is also not the first time they've used the 'final tour' label (it started in '82).

There's just not the interest any more.

If they wanted to bow out in an interesting way, they should have considered a couple of shows in London, make a big deal of it, and then actually go away.

(I speak as a huge Who fan, I just wonder what the hell their management is thinking lately - crappy artwork, messaging, media etc)

Yeah I think the only thing they could really do would be something like what Black Sabbath did.

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I think the Who were never as big as some of their contemporaries, not to mention other 70s-80s stadium rock acts, and, more significantly, they have toured a lot over the last decade or so.

This is also not the first time they've used the 'final tour' label (it started in '82).

There's just not the interest any more.

If they wanted to bow out in an interesting way, they should have considered a couple of shows in London, make a big deal of it, and then actually go away.

(I speak as a huge Who fan, I just wonder what the hell their management is thinking lately - crappy artwork, messaging, media etc)

Yeah I think the only thing they could really do would be something like what Black Sabbath did.

Black Sabbath feel pretty unique though in terms of who they inspired that followed. Not that they are the only influential band, far from it, but there are a lot of people they clearly inspired that they now equal. I can't imagine The Stones or Paul McCartney getting together for The Who and covering a Who song, you know what I mean? The guys from the 60s and 70s all feel at the same level, and no one's really the "Godfather" specifically of anything, in the same way Sabbath is so infused in Metallica, Anthrax, Morello, those other guys. Its hard for me to picture a show for The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Zeppelin, The Kinks, that would feel as on point and genuine as Sabbath's did, unless I'm totally off. You'd get something like 12-12-12 or Desert Trip or something that just includes all those people on one bill. But its not communal around ONE band.

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I think the Who were never as big as some of their contemporaries, not to mention other 70s-80s stadium rock acts, and, more significantly, they have toured a lot over the last decade or so.

This is also not the first time they've used the 'final tour' label (it started in '82).

There's just not the interest any more.

If they wanted to bow out in an interesting way, they should have considered a couple of shows in London, make a big deal of it, and then actually go away.

(I speak as a huge Who fan, I just wonder what the hell their management is thinking lately - crappy artwork, messaging, media etc)

Yeah I think the only thing they could really do would be something like what Black Sabbath did.

Black Sabbath feel pretty unique though in terms of who they inspired that followed. Not that they are the only influential band, far from it, but there are a lot of people they clearly inspired that they now equal. I can't imagine The Stones or Paul McCartney getting together for The Who and covering a Who song, you know what I mean? The guys from the 60s and 70s all feel at the same level, and no one's really the "Godfather" specifically of anything, in the same way Sabbath is so infused in Metallica, Anthrax, Morello, those other guys. Its hard for me to picture a show for The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Zeppelin, The Kinks, that would feel as on point and genuine as Sabbath's did, unless I'm totally off. You'd get something like 12-12-12 or Desert Trip or something that just includes all those people on one bill. But its not communal around ONE band.

That's a good point.

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OK, I was toying with the idea of seeing the Who in Vancouver in September so I went to the ticketbastard site to see what was still available:

[www.ticketmaster.ca]

OMG, the faster question is, what isn't available?

They've sold virtually no tickets? I think it's a pretty daunting proposition for them to sell any where near the number of tickets they need to, unless they just start groupon'ing the crap out of this. Would they actually cancel the show?

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Toronto, with 3x the population has 2 shows but only 15000+ at each one, Budweiser Stage. So a little over half of what Vancouver has to sell. But that looks just as bad and those shows are a month away.

Hard to see them not cancelling in these conditions...like Steve Miller recently or the Black Keys last year.

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I think the Who were never as big as some of their contemporaries, not to mention other 70s-80s stadium rock acts, and, more significantly, they have toured a lot over the last decade or so.

This is also not the first time they've used the 'final tour' label (it started in '82).

There's just not the interest any more.

If they wanted to bow out in an interesting way, they should have considered a couple of shows in London, make a big deal of it, and then actually go away.

(I speak as a huge Who fan, I just wonder what the hell their management is thinking lately - crappy artwork, messaging, media etc)

Agreed with all of this. The Who ARE in that top 4 or 5 of classic rock acts with Zep, the Stones and the Beatles, it genuinely do believe that. And when I last saw them in 2012, they could still pull a pretty easy arena crowd. Cut to 10 years later and that's not the case, for I think many of the reasons you've said. They've toured A LOT, and the farewell thing kinda means jack shit at this point. Its probably true because of their age, but we'd have known that without the announcement. They announced because they needed to sell some more tickets, and their last arena run in the states was pretty poor. I guess they thought this would drum up interest, but any goodwill they might have bought they lost with the drummer stuff I think. Just bad press.

I don't necessarily feel bad for Pete. He talks at length mostly about how he doesn't want to do it, and frankly no one is forcing him to. So I don't wish anything bad on he or Roger, I'd love them to go out triumphantly. But Roger's seeming leadership and Pete's apathy kinda make this totally track. If you don't care, why should anyone else. Hope it doesn't go as poorly as it looks, cause they obviously don't deserve that, but this does feel mismanaged on so many fronts.

While there are elements and times I'd kinda wished the Stones hung it up, especially after Charlie, they are very different than the Who. The Stones still regularly play stadiums. The Who haven't in forever. I'd be surprised current Who stuff will make the Stones reconsider anything. Its two different leagues. For what its worth, the Stones have played it well with keeping interest up.

The Stones have better music, a marketing machine, and most of all, Mick.

As you've opined they are in different leagues and while they may watch this once great band stagger into the abyss for clues at the end of the day the Stones will continue as long as they see fit. Even if it were to get to a point where stadiums were no longer viable, arenas would be easy to fill.

They also haven't fired Steve Jordan.

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They also haven't fired Steve Jordan.

I get the joke you're making but I think less people would care if the Stones fired Steve than The Who firing Zak. Yes, Steve was picked by Charlie to follow him, but Steve has been with the band a fairly short amount of time and barring death, the only people that would matter leaving for the Stones were Mick, Charlie, Keith and Ronnie. While they wouldn't do it, Steve being let go wouldn't make headlines, same way Darryl (long as he's been there) wouldn't.

Zak, on the other hand, is a replacement for one of the best and most recognizable drummers in rock and had been there for 30 years. Of the 3 principal instruments in the band, he was their longest serving non original member. He filled Keith's shoes admirably and became beloved amongst fans. That letting go, especially on a farewell tour when you're barely continuing as it is, is why it feels so heartless. For all intents and purposes, one could argue he was the 5th member of The Who. Not to give him too much credit, but he's a rare replacement member that I wouldn't include in their HOF induction or anything, but has been an integral part of that live band.

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> But [Starkey’s reaction] was crippling to me.”

Piss off, Roger. You wanted your drummer of 30 years to go away quietly and voluntarily, and he didn’t. That’s just life. Don’t act hurt, you did it.

Roger really needs to stop talking at this point. Maybe a few points back even. He is saying nothing to help himself. Maybe he needs to quit singing as well...perhaps take in an Oasis show if he can get a ticket.

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OK, I was toying with the idea of seeing the Who in Vancouver in September so I went to the ticketbastard site to see what was still available:

[www.ticketmaster.ca]

OMG, the faster question is, what isn't available?

They've sold virtually no tickets? I think it's a pretty daunting proposition for them to sell any where near the number of tickets they need to, unless they just start groupon'ing the crap out of this. Would they actually cancel the show?

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Toronto, with 3x the population has 2 shows but only 15000+ at each one, Budweiser Stage. So a little over half of what Vancouver has to sell. But that looks just as bad and those shows are a month away.

Hard to see them not cancelling in these conditions...like Steve Miller recently or the Black Keys last year.

I checked again tickets just aren't moving. They do have $39 tickets in the nose bleeds, beside stage, $60 with fees. That's definitely affordable, now it's a question of how much do I want to drive 90 minutes each way into town.

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I checked again tickets just aren't moving. They do have $39 tickets in the nose bleeds, beside stage, $60 with fees. That's definitely affordable, now it's a question of how much do I want to drive 90 minutes each way into town.

You should have the opportunity to self-upgrade to a better seat.

I’m going to see them in Madison Square Garden. Of course I will be thinking about “Welcome to the breakfast show” as I await the performance. I’ve never seen an event at MSG. It should be fun.

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I’m going to see them in Madison Square Garden. Of course I will be thinking about “Welcome to the breakfast show” as I await the performance. I’ve never seen an event at MSG. It should be fun.

Will be my first MSG show too! Having it the same weekend as Oasis was too convenient to pass up.

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I’m going to see them in Madison Square Garden. Of course I will be thinking about “Welcome to the breakfast show” as I await the performance. I’ve never seen an event at MSG. It should be fun.

Will be my first MSG show too! Having it the same weekend as Oasis was too convenient to pass up.

W O W!!

You are in fer a B L A S T!! Mad fer it!

A rehearsal room somewhere in Florida. The band are all here as are the road crew and we're ready, we're steady and we're all set to go! Kick off is tomorrow at the Amerant Bank Arena in Sunrise, FL. If you haven't got your tickets for this or any other show on this tour then you can get 'em here: [shop.thewho.com]

Photo by Brian Kehew up in the rafters



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I checked again tickets just aren't moving. They do have $39 tickets in the nose bleeds, beside stage, $60 with fees. That's definitely affordable, now it's a question of how much do I want to drive 90 minutes each way into town.

You should have the opportunity to self-upgrade to a better seat.

Yeah, I think that would be a sound strategy