The Stones would carry on without Ronnie. If they carried on without Charlie, they'll carry on without anyone named Mick or Keith.

AC/DC was disappointing cause it was so consistent for so long. Same lineup from 1980-2010 basically minus some drum changes and Mal dipping occasionally. 30 years, and at that point it felt like it had to be set in stone. They're too old to change. Same with U2 as you say. There are a few bands that are the same people. Its rare and I can't think of any off the bat. Most bands can continue with singer and guitarist, ala the Stones, The Who, etc.

Mixed opinions here, too — pros and cons of AC/DC as we know it today.

Thank you folks. I’ll consider picking up a discounted ticket close to show day.

There will probably be 2 dates in Paris and Madrid.

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The Stones would carry on without Ronnie. If they carried on without Charlie, they'll carry on without anyone named Mick or Keith.

AC/DC was disappointing cause it was so consistent for so long. Same lineup from 1980-2010 basically minus some drum changes and Mal dipping occasionally. 30 years, and at that point it felt like it had to be set in stone. They're too old to change. Same with U2 as you say. There are a few bands that are the same people. Its rare and I can't think of any off the bat. Most bands can continue with singer and guitarist, ala the Stones, The Who, etc.

And some without the singer...a la AC/DC, Van Halen, Journey!

...good lord, and Queen!



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The Stones would carry on without Ronnie. If they carried on without Charlie, they'll carry on without anyone named Mick or Keith.

AC/DC was disappointing cause it was so consistent for so long. Same lineup from 1980-2010 basically minus some drum changes and Mal dipping occasionally. 30 years, and at that point it felt like it had to be set in stone. They're too old to change. Same with U2 as you say. There are a few bands that are the same people. Its rare and I can't think of any off the bat. Most bands can continue with singer and guitarist, ala the Stones, The Who, etc.

The only two bands from the 60s with original (or 'classic') lineups that still play, are The James Gang (only occasionally) and Acoustic Hot Tuna (ok it's a duo, but, still...).

From the 70s - U2, The Damned, maybe The Go-Go's..

60s/70s bands that are still alive but are unable / unwilling to play - Sex Pistols, Areosmith, Genesis, Talking Heads, Black Sabbath, Kiss, Slade, Simon & Garfunkel, Hall & Oates, Roxy Music, The Police, Grand Funk Railroad, ABBA, Cheap Trick, The Guess Who, ...

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The Stones would carry on without Ronnie. If they carried on without Charlie, they'll carry on without anyone named Mick or Keith.

AC/DC was disappointing cause it was so consistent for so long. Same lineup from 1980-2010 basically minus some drum changes and Mal dipping occasionally. 30 years, and at that point it felt like it had to be set in stone. They're too old to change. Same with U2 as you say. There are a few bands that are the same people. Its rare and I can't think of any off the bat. Most bands can continue with singer and guitarist, ala the Stones, The Who, etc.

The only two bands from the 60s with original (or 'classic') lineups that still play, are The James Gang (only occasionally) and Acoustic Hot Tuna (ok it's a duo, but, still...).

From the 70s - U2, The Damned, maybe The Go-Go's..

60s/70s bands that are still alive but are unable / unwilling to play - Sex Pistols, Areosmith, Genesis, Talking Heads, Black Sabbath, Kiss, Slade, Simon & Garfunkel, Hall & Oates, Roxy Music, The Police, Grand Funk Railroad, ABBA, Cheap Trick, The Guess Who, ...

Well I think the Pistols had that unfortunate issue with one of their members. As for Cheap Trick, I saw them last year, but I suppose your meaning the original lineup.

Chad Allen of the Guess Who died in 2023. I think there are several Genesis original line up not with us.

Sabbath's original lineup will be playing soon.

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Sabbath's original lineup will be playing soon.

Hell yes!!!

Is Ozzy cured from whatever has been ailing him for quite a while now?

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Is Ozzy cured from whatever has been ailing him for quite a while now?

No, but he's gonna finish his career where it started: in Birmingham, at Villa Park.

[www.bbc.com]

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Is Ozzy cured from whatever has been ailing him for quite a while now?

No, he'll likely be lip syncing in a chair or sitting off to the side watching others pay tribute to his songs. His last few one-off shows were lip synced.

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I think there are several Genesis original line up not with us.

The classic Genesis lineup of Peter Gabriel, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Steve Hackett and Phil Collins are all still alive. Though Peter has basically expressed he'd not go back it and Phil literally can't play drums anymore.

It seems AC/DC are on the same page as The Rolling Stones - they haven't stopped already.

Aside from the obvious, AC/DC is able to continue but it somehow seems much closer to the end than the Stones. But ha ha ha ha the PWR UP tour continues.

Which is really strange. Because in 4 more years... AC/DC could still be going (perhaps Columbia Records, with an agreement with Atlantic - Columbia is Sony, Atlantic is Warner - could agree to a BEST OF, probably called HELLS BELLS if either label would be interested in wasting their time with such a thing) but the Stones will have said Oh no, we played our last show 3 years ago, we're too old now.

It will end very soon. Keith won't die on stage. That ain't happening - he can hardly play as it is.

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It seems AC/DC are on the same page as The Rolling Stones - they haven't stopped already.

Aside from the obvious, AC/DC is able to continue but it somehow seems much closer to the end than the Stones. But ha ha ha ha the PWR UP tour continues.

Which is really strange. Because in 4 more years... AC/DC could still be going (perhaps Columbia Records, with an agreement with Atlantic - Columbia is Sony, Atlantic is Warner - could agree to a BEST OF, probably called HELLS BELLS if either label would be interested in wasting their time with such a thing) but the Stones will have said Oh no, we played our last show 3 years ago, we're too old now.

It will end very soon. Keith won't die on stage. That ain't happening - he can hardly play as it is.

Huh?

Personally I don’t want anyone to die onstage. Also I don’t care if I’m at the last show. I would however at least see one concert on the last tour.

AC/DC is the first band that will play (08 July 2025) in the new

OPEN AIR PARK DÜSSELDORF [www.openairpark-dus.de]
Capacity 80.000

I don't really understand the Stones comparison cause I think they are very different. Mostly because in my mind, for the longest time AC/DC was performing at such a high, consistent, typical them level that seeing the decline felt steep. Just the changes in lineup and everything else, it felt un-them to me. I equate them sort of to Rush, who felt like they knew their audience and weren't going to exploit them. I don't think they're doing that now. Clearly Angus just wants to tour and this is how he's gonna do it. But if you asked me 15 years ago "will AC/DC stay too long at the party?" I'd have said no, and now I do feel its kind of plugging up holes and chugging on.

The Stones I see totally differently. For one part, we've all know for 30 years, the Stones will tour till they can't or there's no more money left on the table. Not a knock to them, but we all know Mick is a shrewd businessman and he's not gonna stop if he can still do it. Similar to so many other bands. And IMO their milking of their audience with prices forever has made it feel like they could go on together for me. There was no more "this is a clear money grab" because its been that for so long. Again, not a knock to them, I feel like they've been relatively transparent about it. But at no point have I felt the Stones have stayed too long at the party, simply because they've been doing it for so long. I feel they found ways to keep themselves relevant and since the 50th tour they are still doing it at a high level, even though I wouldn't have kept touring without Charlie, that I can make a better justification for them than other bands. Strange as that may sound, as much as it may not make full logical sense. The Stones had been the 4 of them for 30 years that as long as they were there it made sense to me. AC/DC dropped from the classic lineup to 2 classic members and that was whiplash to me.

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AC/DC is the first band that will play (08 July 2025) in the new OPEN AIR PARK DÜSSELDORF

We know that: [iorr.org] , [iorr.org] . I saw AC/DC in 2024 on a 80,000 spectators flat field .... and wasn't convinced about such a venue since I'm not interested to watch 'heads & shoulders' instead of AC/DC.

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AC/DC is the first band that will play (08 July 2025) in the new OPEN AIR PARK DÜSSELDORF

We know that: [iorr.org] , [iorr.org] . I saw AC/DC in 2024 on a 80,000 spectators flat field .... and wasn't convinced about such a venue since I'm not interested to watch 'heads & shoulders' instead of AC/DC.

I saw them last year in Hannover (75,000 at the fair ground). Since I had a good the last third of the GC section there was no 'heads & shoulders' problem.

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I saw them last year in Hannover (75,000 at the fair ground). Since I had a good the last third of the GC section there was no 'heads & shoulders' problem.

I was also in the Golden Circle, near the catwalk - with a very active fan in front of me (jumping all the time & holding his hands in the air). But I walked through the 80,000 field before to reach the Golden Circle. Otherwise, I'm not sure what the 'wow effect' of such flat field is - [iorr.org] .

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I don't really understand the Stones comparison cause I think they are very different. Mostly because in my mind, for the longest time AC/DC was performing at such a high, consistent, typical them level that seeing the decline felt steep. Just the changes in lineup and everything else, it felt un-them to me. I equate them sort of to Rush, who felt like they knew their audience and weren't going to exploit them. I don't think they're doing that now. Clearly Angus just wants to tour and this is how he's gonna do it. But if you asked me 15 years ago "will AC/DC stay too long at the party?" I'd have said no, and now I do feel its kind of plugging up holes and chugging on.

The Stones I see totally differently. For one part, we've all know for 30 years, the Stones will tour till they can't or there's no more money left on the table. Not a knock to them, but we all know Mick is a shrewd businessman and he's not gonna stop if he can still do it. Similar to so many other bands. And IMO their milking of their audience with prices forever has made it feel like they could go on together for me. There was no more "this is a clear money grab" because its been that for so long. Again, not a knock to them, I feel like they've been relatively transparent about it. But at no point have I felt the Stones have stayed too long at the party, simply because they've been doing it for so long. I feel they found ways to keep themselves relevant and since the 50th tour they are still doing it at a high level, even though I wouldn't have kept touring without Charlie, that I can make a better justification for them than other bands. Strange as that may sound, as much as it may not make full logical sense. The Stones had been the 4 of them for 30 years that as long as they were there it made sense to me. AC/DC dropped from the classic lineup to 2 classic members and that was whiplash to me.

I agree. I'm a huge fan, and Malcolm's passing could have been a fitting end. And then once Cliff departed, and replacing Phil. It's just not the same. But Angus clearly wants to keep proving it. With Brian back on vocals this could be the last hurrah. But I see this tour going at least another year.

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It seems AC/DC are on the same page as The Rolling Stones - they haven't stopped already.

Aside from the obvious, AC/DC is able to continue but it somehow seems much closer to the end than the Stones. But ha ha ha ha the PWR UP tour continues.

Which is really strange. Because in 4 more years... AC/DC could still be going (perhaps Columbia Records, with an agreement with Atlantic - Columbia is Sony, Atlantic is Warner - could agree to a BEST OF, probably called HELLS BELLS if either label would be interested in wasting their time with such a thing) but the Stones will have said Oh no, we played our last show 3 years ago, we're too old now.

It will end very soon. Keith won't die on stage. That ain't happening - he can hardly play as it is.

Huh?

Whaddaya mean? The Stones won't be on stage for much longer. Keith has stated about playing until he dies but that's simply not going to happen.

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I don't really understand the Stones comparison cause I think they are very different. Mostly because in my mind, for the longest time AC/DC was performing at such a high, consistent, typical them level that seeing the decline felt steep. Just the changes in lineup and everything else, it felt un-them to me. I equate them sort of to Rush, who felt like they knew their audience and weren't going to exploit them. I don't think they're doing that now. Clearly Angus just wants to tour and this is how he's gonna do it. But if you asked me 15 years ago "will AC/DC stay too long at the party?" I'd have said no, and now I do feel its kind of plugging up holes and chugging on.

The Stones I see totally differently. For one part, we've all know for 30 years, the Stones will tour till they can't or there's no more money left on the table. Not a knock to them, but we all know Mick is a shrewd businessman and he's not gonna stop if he can still do it. Similar to so many other bands. And IMO their milking of their audience with prices forever has made it feel like they could go on together for me. There was no more "this is a clear money grab" because its been that for so long. Again, not a knock to them, I feel like they've been relatively transparent about it. But at no point have I felt the Stones have stayed too long at the party, simply because they've been doing it for so long. I feel they found ways to keep themselves relevant and since the 50th tour they are still doing it at a high level, even though I wouldn't have kept touring without Charlie, that I can make a better justification for them than other bands. Strange as that may sound, as much as it may not make full logical sense. The Stones had been the 4 of them for 30 years that as long as they were there it made sense to me. AC/DC dropped from the classic lineup to 2 classic members and that was whiplash to me.

It's easy to compare AC/DC to the Stones because of the time off between albums and tours - and that as things fall apart the band keeps going. What else are they going to do? Aside from the obvious, of course (stay home, etc). Chris Chaney's drumming is excellent - the closest to Phil Rudd they've ever had. All other drummers have sucked.

The comparison is not a slight. Some people understand why the Stones charge/make so much money, a majority see them as cash grabbing greedy old men. Amazingly (I'm being facetious) the shows don't necessarily reflect the amount of money being made.

Tickets for Europe 2025 now available - [ACDC.com] .

Germany (Berlin/Düsseldorf/Karlsruhe) - [Eventim.de] . Italia - [TicketOne.it] .

Ticketmaster for Czech Republic, Poland, Estonia, Spain, Sweden, Norway, UK - [Ticketmaster.cz] . France - [GDP.fr] .


Prices in Germany: € 182.75 (Golden Circle), € 165.50 (standing), € 159.75 - € 182.75 (seating), € 124.10 (restricted view).



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Usal chaos and instant sellout of golden circle tickets at eventim.de. but for Berlin tickets are still easily available at local ticket vendors.



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yep, same old garbage. Took about 25 minutes to wait for nearly 40,000 people ahead of me. Meanwhile on Viagogo there's plenty of tickets.

Using the eventim app, tickets were offered about one minute before 10am (I was not stuck in the queue), but Berlin GC was already sold out. luckily I remembered a local Berlin ticket shop were GC still was available.



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Queuing for Murrayfield but I tried the italian date and everything seems available with no waiting

Italy : prices from 115€ to 162€

Ended up with the "premium" seat in Madrid for 349 euros on TicketMaster. I don't like no option to chose which seat, but I thought it's better than supporting Viagogo. Good luck everyone!

A joke on TM as usual for Edinburgh. No standing tickets available . It's a must see for us on my 60th birthday. Got GA on see tickets

SEE TICKETS STILL HAVE GA AND SEATS POPPING UP if you are looking


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