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big4
It's reported in the NY Post that she spent the last week of her life in isolation in Mustique before returning to NY this past Saturday. So at the very least her and Mick were close enough that she was still staying at one of his residences in the days before her death.
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duffydawg
He definitely pulled the plug.
This is the end of the tour. There is too much going on now with this tragic event. Look for Ronnie and Taylor to do some club dates but the Stones are done.
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<to make judgmental pronouncements on Mick's relationship with L'Wren, particularly at this time.>
That's exactly what I don't get. Why do anyone think that this is an appropriate thing to do NOW?
The only reason I can think of is that one has insider knowledge, and doesn't think too highly of Mick...
the only insider knowledge this poster has are the gossips in tabloids
regard low opinion about Mick -on the contrary it is somewhat inverted too high opinion of him as super male who can bring any woman - this weak fragile creation who is not able to live without man - to suicide.
as if there was no feminism
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duffydawg
He definitely pulled the plug.
This is the end of the tour. There is too much going on now with this tragic event. Look for Ronnie and Taylor to do some club dates but the Stones are done.
You know zilch. Read the statements from Ronnie, Keith and Charlie in the Aussie-thread. You're just throwing out garbage here, man.
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<to make judgmental pronouncements on Mick's relationship with L'Wren, particularly at this time.>
That's exactly what I don't get. Why do anyone think that this is an appropriate thing to do NOW?
The only reason I can think of is that one has insider knowledge, and doesn't think too highly of Mick...
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<to make judgmental pronouncements on Mick's relationship with L'Wren, particularly at this time.>
That's exactly what I don't get. Why do anyone think that this is an appropriate thing to do NOW?
The only reason I can think of is that one has insider knowledge, and doesn't think too highly of Mick...
the only insider knowledge this poster has are the gossips in tabloids
regard low opinion about Mick -on the contrary it is somewhat inverted too high opinion of him as super male who can bring any woman - this weak fragile creation who is not able to live without man - to suicide.
as if there was no feminism
I do not know what feminism has to do with anything. But if L'Wren was not driven to despair by a business failure, as has been widely reported, is it not reasonable to think that it was due to her personal life?
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Bliss
Ok. What's bothering me is that this smells like a PR spin to deflect attention away from the truth. Out of seven long term r'ships that we know of, three of the women have made serious suicide attempts, one successfully. Now perhaps all these women were unstable to begin with. Or perhaps not.
Postponing a massive tour to fly half-way around the world to attend to this unfortunate matter and mourn her loss is not a PR-spin. Regardless of what you may think of him, it is wholly inappropriate to make judgmental pronouncements on Mick's relationship with L'Wren, particularly at this time.
I totally agree StonedInTokyo.
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Bliss
Ok. What's bothering me is that this smells like a PR spin to deflect attention away from the truth. Out of seven long term r'ships that we know of, three of the women have made serious suicide attempts, one successfully. Now perhaps all these women were unstable to begin with. Or perhaps not.
Postponing a massive tour to fly half-way around the world to attend to this unfortunate matter and mourn her loss is not a PR-spin. Regardless of what you may think of him, it is wholly inappropriate to make judgmental pronouncements on Mick's relationship with L'Wren, particularly at this time.
I totally agree StonedInTokyo.
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Well...out of his 20k posts I'm sure DP made lots of PR for the RS. In fact he always irritates me with his for anything people like about the RS and his when you are a nay-sayer.
And he often or always accused me of being a nay-sayer and a whiner so people can't say I'm a PR guy for the Stones.
But I can't say Dandee is not a decent guy because he is. This irritating youngster has the decency to support the fact that I agree StonedInTokyo.
I think more people should agree with StonedInTokyo's words:
Postponing a massive tour to fly half-way around the world to attend to this unfortunate matter and mourn her loss is not a PR-spin. Regardless of what you may think of him, it is wholly inappropriate to make judgmental pronouncements on Mick's relationship with L'Wren, particularly at this time.
It's not about our opinions at this moment...
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If L'Wren was not driven to despair by a business failure, as has been widely reported, is it not reasonable to think that it was due to her personal life?
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duffydawg
He definitely pulled the plug.
This is the end of the tour. There is too much going on now with this tragic event. Look for Ronnie and Taylor to do some club dates but the Stones are done.
You know zilch. Read the statements from Ronnie, Keith and Charlie in the Aussie-thread. You're just throwing out garbage here, man.
Although I agree its garbage it feels more like recycling...its been on this board before and it will come back again in another form...
But the "new" products are dubious, at best...
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Bliss
not one person, out of the many friends, acquaintances, employees, clients or family who have written about her has said she was prone to depression. Quite the contrary, in fact.
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MainStreetExile
Posting ignorant, bottom-feeding speculation and making cruel remarks doesn't make anyone a "rebel," give me a break. That is the practice of cowards with empty lives and room-temperature IQs, and I will bet the rent that if any of these "nonconformists" ever had to break with the pack and take a stand on any issue in a forum outside the Internet, large or small, they'd run like they were scorched. And all this blather about "freedom of expression..." First off, there is a difference between freedom and license, second, people who disagree with you are also free to express that, you'd hope they'd come up with something better than "eff off," but it's simple, it says it, and really isn't any more offensive than the comments that provoked it, just shorter. And last, the Internet is a dangerous thing, people think any stupid, thoughtless chunk of trash that flashes through their brain, and it happens to every human being, deserves to be posted for the world to see, on forums, on Twitter, Facebook walls, when in better days, sense would prevail and these thoughts would come and go with no one the wiser, and to the relief of the intelligent person whose emotions ran out of control.
When Mary Travers was diagnosed with leukemia, and eventually passed, fans posted in the appropriate thread on the PP&M site, and they would print the threads out without editing, for her to read, and then for her family as condolence. And look at this thread, headed RIP L'Wren -- we're Stones fans, and we would want this thing printed out and handed to Mick as consolation? For all the sincere messages of condolence and attempts at support among one another, I wouldn't print this thread out to line the bottom of a birdcage. If you want to think that ignorant, unsophisticated, cruel outbursts make you a rebel, if you think there's something marvelous about someone in their fifties or sixties having the mentality of a 12-year old, that's your gig, but don't tout it as being rock and roll and don't pin it on the Rolling Stones, especially at a heartbreaking time like this.
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stonesrule
BV, isn't it truly tasteless to keep this thread going?
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StonedInTokyo
It is very touching that Mick referred to her as his "(lover and) BEST FRIEND".
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<to make judgmental pronouncements on Mick's relationship with L'Wren, particularly at this time.>
That's exactly what I don't get. Why do anyone think that this is an appropriate thing to do NOW?
The only reason I can think of is that one has insider knowledge, and doesn't think too highly of Mick...
the only insider knowledge this poster has are the gossips in tabloids
regard low opinion about Mick -on the contrary it is somewhat inverted too high opinion of him as super male who can bring any woman - this weak fragile creation who is not able to live without man - to suicide.
as if there was no feminism
I do not know what feminism has to do with anything. But if L'Wren was not driven to despair by a business failure, as has been widely reported, is it not reasonable to think that it was due to her personal life?
If you have ever dealt with clinically depressed people, you would know that 9 times out of 10, it's very difficult to pinpoint one particular cause of the depression. It could have physiological roots; it could be hereditary.