Was Keith the first rock musician to be linked with the term "riff"? Obviously there had been other musicians who based their talents on creating great riffs like Beethoven, chuck berry, Muddy waters, John Lee Hooker etc.. Keith is the Riffmaster and also Keith Riffchards. When did that start? (the naming and the expertise in riffing).
Riffs are cool sometimes better than solos!!!
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Was Keith the first rock musician to be linked with the term "riff"?

Probably Eric Clapton first (or Hank Marvin)

Link Wray, maybe?

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Link Wray, maybe?

Too bad no one's heard of him...

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Link Wray, maybe?

Too bad no one's heard of him...

You're kidding, right?
...Last year here in a tiny dive bar in Los Angeles, Rockman, aboynamedsue69 and myself went to a Link Wray celebration. at one point there were about 15 electric guitars on stage playing Rumble

YEAH that was a crazy evening BluzDude ...... Rumble indeed ...



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YEAH that was a crazy evening BluzDude ...... Rumble indeed ...

You mean you remember it?

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Link Wray, maybe?

Too bad no one's heard of him...

I've known him for 30 years. He was a riffmeister alright!

Yawn. He's only known by a few guys LOL.

Whereas Eric Clapton & Hank Marvin are known by millions...

Who's Hank Marvin?

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Who's Hank Marvin?

One of the most influential electric guitarist's of all time and in a band which started it all (before the Beatles & Stones)...



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He played for Elvis?
Never heard of him, so he couldn't be that important.

I think the first was Riff Rifferson?

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He played for Elvis?

According to you Elvis is a band?

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He played for Elvis?

According to you Elvis is a band?

No, but his back up musicians form a band, regardless if they have a name or not.

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No, but his back up musicians form a band, regardless if they have a name or not.

Cool. And who is talking about Elvis? I'm talking guitarists. Anyway If you want to think that Elvis' band was more well known or influential than the Shadows...that's your problem...

Youngie, I'm messing with you...but honestly I don't think that many people who are casual fans, especially outside the UK and Western Europe know about the Shadows.

<<If you want to think that Elvis' band was more well known or influential than the Shadows>>

Funny that someone would post that in a thread about Keith, who thinks quite highly of Scotty Moore.





Keith liked Moore enough to record with him--but did he ever record with the Shadows?





Macca too liked Elvis' band.





Regarding the Shadows, I'm from the U.S. and I didn't realize until a few weeks ago that they recorded the original version of Apache. I always thought it was done first by Jörgen Ingmann, who had the U.S. hit with it in 1961. In the 80s and 90s, U.S. oldies radio always played the Ingmann version, never the Shadows original.

Well, Stonehearted, at least he liked Cliff/the Shadows enough to change his name

You mean that ALO thought it might benefit the Stones publicity-wise.

Brian beat Keith to the punch. The Last Time is probably the first Rolling Stones riff. After that just about every single was built around a riff. Satisfaction (Keith). Cloud (Brian). 19th (Brian). Helper (Brian). Black (Brian). Jane (Brian). Ruby (Brian). Wait a minute. Who is the riff meister here?

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No, but his back up musicians form a band, regardless if they have a name or not.

Cool. And who is talking about Elvis? I'm talking guitarists. Anyway If you want to think that Elvis' band was more well known or influential than the Shadows...that's your problem...

C'mon now...keep Elvis name out yo mouths...

The Shadows were huge in Europe, but almost unknown in the States. Only serious U.S. guitar geeks know who Hank B. Marvin is.

I believe it was a jazz term. Looks like the 30's to me.

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The Shadows were huge in Europe, but almost unknown in the States.

The Velvet Underground weren't big in Europe or in the States. Quite the opposite. Does this mean VU influenced no-one? You know the answer.



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Brian beat Keith to the punch.

And The Kinks beat The Stones "to the punch"..

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The Shadows were huge in Europe, but almost unknown in the States. Only serious U.S. guitar geeks know who Hank B. Marvin is.

How about Vik Flick ab? He's the British Tommy Tedesco.

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The Shadows were huge in Europe, but almost unknown in the States.

The Velvet Underground weren't big in Europe or in the States. Quite the opposite. Does this mean VU influenced no-one? You know the answer.

The problem with that analogy is that the VU were groundbreaking, in that there was nothing like them before, whereas the Shadows were just another instrumental band whose name we know today primarily because they backed Cliff Richard.

But that isn't to say that the Shadows didn't have their fans, as the Beatles composed their own tribute.

The answer is KEITH is the official RIFF King

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The problem with that analogy is that the VU were groundbreaking, in that there was nothing like them before, whereas the Shadows were just another instrumental band whose name we know today primarily because they backed Cliff Richard

Incorrect. Hank Marvin influenced all the mid 60's British electric guitarists that followed him (Richards, Clapton, Beck etc) - he was the prototype.