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They'll follow the money and that's the US. Then if they were to do a few more European shows we can hear all about how the US shows stunk and they were just warming up for Europe. What many fail to understand is that without the US there is no European tour. They make a boatload of money in the States which allows them the luxury of Europe.
In which decade do you live? 1 Euro = 1,3 Dollar. Today. So moneywise it´s Europe.
The US is history in raking in the most money with tours. Acts can (and do) rise higher ticket prices in the US, yes. So in the end it´s equal.
I live in the world where the top ticket price in the US was $650, or roughly 478 euros. What was the top ticket price in Europe this tour -- about 300 euros tops? The cost of living is higher in Europe so they can't charge as much.
The advantage in playing Europe is they can give the audience the same old stuff they have been giving them since 1990 and people call it the "best European tour ever".
Correct -- those were arena prices. I don't think the band count mount a successful stadium tour in the States now charging what they charge. Lower prices there would bring about the surge in young people seen in Europe.
It really is the same old stuff, now played slower. We've seen the invention of a new buzzword this tour - dirty guitars. That means sloppy. My other new favorite line has been "for their age it's great" -- that's making an excuse for it not being what it once was. They're good, but no longer great. It seems we're all in denial about that -- "best show ever", etc. It is better than 2007 because that leg was embarrassing so it's no great accomplishment.
Midnight Rambler was fantastic this tour thanks to Mick Taylor upping everyone's game.
Oh you sound a bit frustrated about the Stones.
Yes you're right: they don't are the band of 1972 anymore.
They are the Stones of 2014.
And yes: To make ourselves feeling great with our band we find superlatives
very easily after each gig we go to.
The last gig is "always the best Stones ever".
Because fans are kids, as you know.
I´m a kid. Since GAYYO.
And I´m sure you'll find your way back to the Stones-Kid, living in your heart.
Pit tickets in North America were about $ 1500 if memory serves.
Average price of a ticket was $450.
I got $85s and was upgraded to $600 tickets.
So without a doubt North America was higher priced, if 400 euros was top price.
I agree, I think this is the new template, with big breaks in between for other projects, family time etc.
I know nothing is guaranteed but why wouldn't they continue if the tour rigors were manageable?
I'd bet that they could even squirt out an album of new material somewhere in there.
Agreed, but the higher prices were because the shows were in arenas - not because of the original point made, i.e., that they were in the US.
Yup.
what could possibly go wrong at this point
Hi. Was nice to meet you in Adelaide. Hope the cover band was good.
Last tour of Europe or the last tour ever anywhere meaning that they will wrap things up next year?
Nate
That would be very sad ... and it makes no sense in my opinion. The Stones are in a good mood, they are fit and they playing well. So why stop it?
I do not accept this answer!! Although we all know it's been coming.
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Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
babyblue
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Date: July 5, 2014 04:09
Yes I hope they will do the missed places in the US/Canada next year after SA. Would be nice.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
HighwayBound
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Date: July 6, 2014 03:08
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babyblue
Yes I hope they will do the missed places in the US/Canada next year after SA. Would be nice.
They'll follow the money and that's the US. Then if they were to do a few more European shows we can hear all about how the US shows stunk and they were just warming up for Europe. What many fail to understand is that without the US there is no European tour. They make a boatload of money in the States which allows them the luxury of Europe.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
caschimann
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Date: July 6, 2014 09:50
Quote
HighwayBoundQuote
babyblue
Yes I hope they will do the missed places in the US/Canada next year after SA. Would be nice.
They'll follow the money and that's the US. Then if they were to do a few more European shows we can hear all about how the US shows stunk and they were just warming up for Europe. What many fail to understand is that without the US there is no European tour. They make a boatload of money in the States which allows them the luxury of Europe.
In which decade do you live? 1 Euro = 1,3 Dollar. Today. So moneywise it´s Europe.
The US is history in raking in the most money with tours. Acts can (and do) rise higher ticket prices in the US, yes. So in the end it´s equal.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
HighwayBound
()
Date: July 6, 2014 13:08
Quote
caschimannQuote
HighwayBoundQuote
babyblue
Yes I hope they will do the missed places in the US/Canada next year after SA. Would be nice.
They'll follow the money and that's the US. Then if they were to do a few more European shows we can hear all about how the US shows stunk and they were just warming up for Europe. What many fail to understand is that without the US there is no European tour. They make a boatload of money in the States which allows them the luxury of Europe.
In which decade do you live? 1 Euro = 1,3 Dollar. Today. So moneywise it´s Europe.
The US is history in raking in the most money with tours. Acts can (and do) rise higher ticket prices in the US, yes. So in the end it´s equal.
I live in the world where the top ticket price in the US was $650, or roughly 478 euros. What was the top ticket price in Europe this tour -- about 300 euros tops? The cost of living is higher in Europe so they can't charge as much.
The advantage in playing Europe is they can give the audience the same old stuff they have been giving them since 1990 and people call it the "best European tour ever".
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
Beast
()
Date: July 6, 2014 13:41
But weren't those US ticket prices for arenas and not stadiums? Top price was Vienna - 400 euros for diamond circle. Anyone attending this last leg most likely concluded that the "same old stuff" was not being performed in a way that justified that description or its implication.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
HighwayBound
()
Date: July 6, 2014 14:48
Quote
Beast
But weren't those US ticket prices for arenas and not stadiums? Top price was Vienna - 400 euros for diamond circle. Anyone attending this last leg most likely concluded that the "same old stuff" was not being performed in a way that justified that description or its implication.
Correct -- those were arena prices. I don't think the band count mount a successful stadium tour in the States now charging what they charge. Lower prices there would bring about the surge in young people seen in Europe.
It really is the same old stuff, now played slower. We've seen the invention of a new buzzword this tour - dirty guitars. That means sloppy. My other new favorite line has been "for their age it's great" -- that's making an excuse for it not being what it once was. They're good, but no longer great. It seems we're all in denial about that -- "best show ever", etc. It is better than 2007 because that leg was embarrassing so it's no great accomplishment.
Midnight Rambler was fantastic this tour thanks to Mick Taylor upping everyone's game.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
mailexile67
()
Date: July 6, 2014 16:23
In this European leg of the Tour, they have been better than ABB and Licks Tour too...They have been like BTB Tour in 97/98 maybe...Great guitar sound loud and all band members in great shape!
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
caschimann
()
Date: July 6, 2014 19:15
Quote
HighwayBoundQuote
Beast
But weren't those US ticket prices for arenas and not stadiums? Top price was Vienna - 400 euros for diamond circle. Anyone attending this last leg most likely concluded that the "same old stuff" was not being performed in a way that justified that description or its implication.
Correct -- those were arena prices. I don't think the band count mount a successful stadium tour in the States now charging what they charge. Lower prices there would bring about the surge in young people seen in Europe.
It really is the same old stuff, now played slower. We've seen the invention of a new buzzword this tour - dirty guitars. That means sloppy. My other new favorite line has been "for their age it's great" -- that's making an excuse for it not being what it once was. They're good, but no longer great. It seems we're all in denial about that -- "best show ever", etc. It is better than 2007 because that leg was embarrassing so it's no great accomplishment.
Midnight Rambler was fantastic this tour thanks to Mick Taylor upping everyone's game.
Oh you sound a bit frustrated about the Stones.
Yes you're right: they don't are the band of 1972 anymore.
They are the Stones of 2014.
And yes: To make ourselves feeling great with our band we find superlatives
very easily after each gig we go to.
The last gig is "always the best Stones ever".
Because fans are kids, as you know.
I´m a kid. Since GAYYO.
And I´m sure you'll find your way back to the Stones-Kid, living in your heart.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
powerage78
()
Date: July 6, 2014 20:00
Last european Tour before (today) still hypothetical more dates in South America and England in 2015.
After, I understand reading BV there won't be a new Tour.
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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
After, I understand reading BV there won't be a new Tour.
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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 6, 2014 20:15
Quote
Beast
But weren't those US ticket prices for arenas and not stadiums? Top price was Vienna - 400 euros for diamond circle. Anyone attending this last leg most likely concluded that the "same old stuff" was not being performed in a way that justified that description or its implication.
Pit tickets in North America were about $ 1500 if memory serves.
Average price of a ticket was $450.
I got $85s and was upgraded to $600 tickets.
So without a doubt North America was higher priced, if 400 euros was top price.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
mailexile67
()
Date: July 6, 2014 20:36
Why not?!They are in great shape, enjoy themselves, there has been many sold-out so why this must be the last European Tour?!?I think that if they use the same target of the last Tour(12-14 show for leg)they can still touring for some years...
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 6, 2014 20:56
Quote
mailexile67
Why not?!They are in great shape, enjoy themselves, there has been many sold-out so why this must be the last European Tour?!?I think that if they use the same target of the last Tour(12-14 show for leg)they can still touring for some years...
I agree, I think this is the new template, with big breaks in between for other projects, family time etc.
I know nothing is guaranteed but why wouldn't they continue if the tour rigors were manageable?
I'd bet that they could even squirt out an album of new material somewhere in there.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
Beast
()
Date: July 6, 2014 21:01
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
Beast
But weren't those US ticket prices for arenas and not stadiums? Top price was Vienna - 400 euros for diamond circle. Anyone attending this last leg most likely concluded that the "same old stuff" was not being performed in a way that justified that description or its implication.
Pit tickets in North America were about $ 1500 if memory serves.
Average price of a ticket was $450.
I got $85s and was upgraded to $600 tickets.
So without a doubt North America was higher priced, if 400 euros was top price.
Agreed, but the higher prices were because the shows were in arenas - not because of the original point made, i.e., that they were in the US.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 6, 2014 21:30
Quote
mailexile67
Why not?!They are in great shape, enjoy themselves, there has been
many sold-out so why this must be the last European Tour?!?I think
that if they use the same target of the last Tour(12-14 show for leg)
they can still touring for some years...
Quote
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 6, 2014 21:31
South America hangs like a ripe fruit waiting to get picked
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-07-06 22:14 by Nikkei.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-07-06 22:14 by Nikkei.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
shattered
()
Date: July 6, 2014 21:42
Quote
Nikkei
Yup.
Re: The Rolling Stones World Tour 2014 and on - dates and more
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 6, 2014 21:46
Quote
shattered
Yup.
what could possibly go wrong at this point
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
JumpinJeppeFlash
()
Date: July 6, 2014 12:01
Probably this was the last time they did a european tour.
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
Kaisan
()
Date: July 6, 2014 12:07
I hope this wasn´t the last tour in Europe - I think they will at least come back one more time. But, you never know ...
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
zgubi
()
Date: July 6, 2014 12:43
last trip in Europe before heading to the World Cup, launching "Get On Up" and other interesting stuff
I make daily videos on the tour at [youtube.com]
Going to: London - Manchester - Twickenham - Berlin - Marseille - Prague - Warsaw
I make daily videos on the tour at [youtube.com]
Going to: London - Manchester - Twickenham - Berlin - Marseille - Prague - Warsaw
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: July 6, 2014 12:55
Being English-speaking and of the Western world, I read it from left to right--however, Chinese and other Asian readers might read it from right to left, in which case they would read it as "First trip in Europe" or "!eporuE ni pirt tsaL" or something.
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
The Joker
()
Date: July 6, 2014 12:58
Quote
zgubi
last trip in Europe before heading to the World Cup, launching "Get On Up" and other interesting stuff
Hi. Was nice to meet you in Adelaide. Hope the cover band was good.
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
GJV
()
Date: July 6, 2014 13:34
"Last trip in Europe" probably just means the last trip to the last country (Denmark) for this European tour. Nothing else.
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
Harm
()
Date: July 6, 2014 13:59
Quote
GJV
"Last trip in Europe" probably just means the last trip to the last country (Denmark) for this European tour. Nothing else.
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
MichaelLassen
()
Date: July 6, 2014 14:05
Last trip on the European tour is simply flying from Denmark to London.
If the offer is there and health permits, I'm sure they'll be back.
They Seem to be enjoying themselves too much not to. And getting huge feedback especially from younger new potential fans from the festivals and having skipped over many bigger cities this time around, it could very well happen.
If the offer is there and health permits, I'm sure they'll be back.
They Seem to be enjoying themselves too much not to. And getting huge feedback especially from younger new potential fans from the festivals and having skipped over many bigger cities this time around, it could very well happen.
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
bv
()
Date: July 6, 2014 14:49
This is the last tour.
Bjornulf
Bjornulf
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
Nate
()
Date: July 6, 2014 14:53
Quote
bv
This is the last tour.
Last tour of Europe or the last tour ever anywhere meaning that they will wrap things up next year?
Nate
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
Kaisan
()
Date: July 6, 2014 14:57
Quote
bv
This is the last tour.
That would be very sad ... and it makes no sense in my opinion. The Stones are in a good mood, they are fit and they playing well. So why stop it?
Re: How do you read "Last trip in Europe!"?
Posted by:
spsimmons
()
Date: July 6, 2014 15:08
Quote
BV
This is the last tour.
I do not accept this answer!! Although we all know it's been coming.
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