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Yep; gigs in Chatham and Rochester Kent, as well!
They'd even reached the 1,000 show by 1967!
I think probably so too. I remember years ago reading an interview with Eric Clapton, and he references how the early Stones (63-66) "never slept" as they were on the road constantly. When your peers are noting your crazy road schedule, there's probably something to it. Perhaps one key to their longevity is that they learned the importance of pacing themselves after the chaos of that initial near-constant touring.
Don't come all surprised! You knew that!
I know, but still, crazy times.
But don't forget these gigs were 15-25 minutes only. Lots of bands on the stages then.
That's true, actually. Those 'package tours' often featured a fair few acts. I'm not sure off-hand when it was that the Stones broke away from these. I know they were in the 'supporting role' during the tours with the Everley Brothers and, later, Jim Leyton.
'Lived'? He's still doing it! Though be it, at a more relaxed, gentle pace.
Exactly, my man!
Yeah, but the hassles involved in getting there etc etc is the same whether they play for 2 hours or half an hour.
John Leyton? They weren't supporting him, were they? (Not sure, it was a long time ago!)
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Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Loudei
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Date: December 31, 2013 03:37
It's time to knock Keith a bit ... Love you Keith!!
For us fans and band historians: I really get smile whenever Keith says "We where on the road nonstop etc... " But what's really the truth? I would say the Stones where on the road a lot till probably 66' and then spent more time in the studio than out playing... they sucombed to acid and glamour in 66 67 didn't tour 68. The 69' tour was less than 30 gigs which by todays standards is pretty low number of shows by a band in their 20's. The 70 tour 22 shows. The 71 tour 17 gigs and we all know where Keith was holed up the rest of the year. Ok the STP 72 tour 48 shows, still a whole lot of months off the road. 73 50 plus shows , gosh I wish I could;ve walked to see those... then 1974 was pretty much a shooting couch affair. 1975 46 shows, 1976 41 shows... 1977 el mocambo BUSTED! 1978 the great 1978 tour only 25 dates thats 340 days left for Keith to relax... 1979 Keith plays with Ronnie on Barbarians tour and wikipedia does not have the number shows of the tour but yet again Keith has a lot of time off the road... 1981 the Stones kick ass with their first gargantuan stadium tour de force... still just 50 dates... Europe 1982 ? 36 shows... and then Keith falls in love and is never to be seen again onstage for 6 years ... he did play here and there with people but a pretty awesome relaxed hippy bohemian life ... reading a lot of books and stuff...
Keith stop pretending you were out there eating stones on the road all your life... but thanks for the music keef
For us fans and band historians: I really get smile whenever Keith says "We where on the road nonstop etc... " But what's really the truth? I would say the Stones where on the road a lot till probably 66' and then spent more time in the studio than out playing... they sucombed to acid and glamour in 66 67 didn't tour 68. The 69' tour was less than 30 gigs which by todays standards is pretty low number of shows by a band in their 20's. The 70 tour 22 shows. The 71 tour 17 gigs and we all know where Keith was holed up the rest of the year. Ok the STP 72 tour 48 shows, still a whole lot of months off the road. 73 50 plus shows , gosh I wish I could;ve walked to see those... then 1974 was pretty much a shooting couch affair. 1975 46 shows, 1976 41 shows... 1977 el mocambo BUSTED! 1978 the great 1978 tour only 25 dates thats 340 days left for Keith to relax... 1979 Keith plays with Ronnie on Barbarians tour and wikipedia does not have the number shows of the tour but yet again Keith has a lot of time off the road... 1981 the Stones kick ass with their first gargantuan stadium tour de force... still just 50 dates... Europe 1982 ? 36 shows... and then Keith falls in love and is never to be seen again onstage for 6 years ... he did play here and there with people but a pretty awesome relaxed hippy bohemian life ... reading a lot of books and stuff...
Keith stop pretending you were out there eating stones on the road all your life... but thanks for the music keef
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
stonehearted
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Date: December 31, 2013 03:40
Yes, but across half a century they've spent more time onstage than most every other band has spent rehearsing.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Aquamarine
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Date: December 31, 2013 03:43
Being on the road doesn't just include the nights you're onstage. And in those early years their schedule really was relentless--that's what bands had to do to break through.
(Not that I know anything personally of his private life, but I gather Keith was in love during those earlier tours, too.
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(Not that I know anything personally of his private life, but I gather Keith was in love during those earlier tours, too.
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Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: December 31, 2013 03:55
1963 - 1966 is nuts touring wise.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
seitan
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Date: December 31, 2013 03:58
Quote
Loudei
It's time to knock Keith a bit ... Love you Keith!!
For us fans and band historians: I really get smile whenever Keith says "We where on the road nonstop etc... " But what's really the truth? I would say the Stones where on the road a lot till probably 66' and then spent more time in the studio than out playing... they sucombed to acid and glamour in 66 67 didn't tour 68. The 69' tour was less than 30 gigs which by todays standards is pretty low number of shows by a band in their 20's. The 70 tour 22 shows. The 71 tour 17 gigs and we all know where Keith was holed up the rest of the year. Ok the STP 72 tour 48 shows, still a whole lot of months off the road. 73 50 plus shows , gosh I wish I could;ve walked to see those... then 1974 was pretty much a shooting couch affair. 1975 46 shows, 1976 41 shows... 1977 el mocambo BUSTED! 1978 the great 1978 tour only 25 dates thats 340 days left for Keith to relax... 1979 Keith plays with Ronnie on Barbarians tour and wikipedia does not have the number shows of the tour but yet again Keith has a lot of time off the road... 1981 the Stones kick ass with their first gargantuan stadium tour de force... still just 50 dates... Europe 1982 ? 36 shows... and then Keith falls in love and is never to be seen again onstage for 6 years ... he did play here and there with people but a pretty awesome relaxed hippy bohemian life ... reading a lot of books and stuff...
Keith stop pretending you were out there eating stones on the road all your life... but thanks for the music keef[/quote
dont just count the shows - it's not like they went home every night after a gig, or even to hotel - lot of bands had to start driving the very same night to get to the next city/state/or in some cases ..even to foreign country...if you count the number of shows it dosent really mean that much..
lot of bands spend time on the road without a break, doing interviews for the press, radio, TV shows, photo shoots, filming, etc..there's lot more work on rock tours then just walking to stage and playing your guitar..including songwriting. It's not as easy as it seems. ...on the other hand - being a rock musician is not as hard as working in shithole factory.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Big Al
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Date: December 31, 2013 04:05
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His Majesty
1963 - 1966 is nuts touring wise.
Yep; gigs in Chatham and Rochester Kent, as well!
They'd even reached the 1,000 show by 1967!Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Carnaby
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Date: December 31, 2013 08:04
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
tomk
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Date: December 31, 2013 08:20
The travelling is the worst part. That sucks so much out of you. You're not on vacation. You may have the piss and vinager for it at 21 or 24, but it takes its toll, then add the mania to it. I've been on the road few times, and the travelling was the worst part.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
klrkcr
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Date: December 31, 2013 11:42
Probably depended on how fast Stu drove.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
FortuneTeller800
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Date: December 31, 2013 13:32
The schedule for those first years looks like murder. They even did two shows on many dates. And early on they were like all us lowdown bands: on top of each other, piled in a van with the equipment; probably freezing their ass off.
The time on stage is the best part; but just a small fraction of it. Its those hours driving that wear a band down.
Like tonk says - the giddiness of being on 'vacation' dissipates very quickly. I have also spent a lot of time on the road, and by no means in the big time, LOL. The traveling is what drains you.
Oh, and I meant to say that Keith IMO has every right to draw on laurels from those first 1000 gigs.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-31 13:33 by FortuneTeller800.
The time on stage is the best part; but just a small fraction of it. Its those hours driving that wear a band down.
Like tonk says - the giddiness of being on 'vacation' dissipates very quickly. I have also spent a lot of time on the road, and by no means in the big time, LOL. The traveling is what drains you.
Oh, and I meant to say that Keith IMO has every right to draw on laurels from those first 1000 gigs.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-31 13:33 by FortuneTeller800.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
slew
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Date: December 31, 2013 21:27
When Keith say this I think he is referring to 1963-66.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
rocker1
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Date: January 1, 2014 00:01
Quote
slew
When Keith say this I think he is referring to 1963-66.
I think probably so too. I remember years ago reading an interview with Eric Clapton, and he references how the early Stones (63-66) "never slept" as they were on the road constantly. When your peers are noting your crazy road schedule, there's probably something to it. Perhaps one key to their longevity is that they learned the importance of pacing themselves after the chaos of that initial near-constant touring.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
rob51
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Date: January 1, 2014 03:55
Yeah we all know Keith likes to put it on a lot of the time. I bet he's not even a real pirate! Those early years of the 60's must have been intence though seeing they hadn't made money yet and were doing it the old school way. Schlepping miles and miles in old buses and vans sometimes playing two-three shows a day, albeit short ones compared to later but still a pretty tough schedual for anyone to keep up with. Lot's of bands did it and more in those days, and the Stones didn't work any harder than tons of other lesser known musicians of the time. Read Levon Helms book sometime if you want to know about road life for bands back then, holy $*%(&%^*!!
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: January 1, 2014 07:37
Quote
Big Al
They'd even reached the 1,000 show by 1967!
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Big Al
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Date: January 1, 2014 09:12
Quote
His MajestyQuote
Big Al
They'd even reached the 1,000 show by 1967!
Don't come all surprised! You knew that!
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Aquamarine
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Date: January 1, 2014 09:38
Quote
rob51
I bet he's not even a real pirate!
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: January 1, 2014 13:05
Quote
Big AlQuote
His MajestyQuote
Big Al
They'd even reached the 1,000 show by 1967!
Don't come all surprised! You knew that!
I know, but still, crazy times.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
CousinC
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Date: January 1, 2014 15:44
Quote
His Majesty
1963 - 1966 is nuts touring wise.
But don't forget these gigs were 15-25 minutes only. Lots of bands on the stages then.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: January 1, 2014 16:01
Quote
CousinCQuote
His Majesty
1963 - 1966 is nuts touring wise.
But don't forget these gigs were 15-25 minutes only. Lots of bands on the stages then.
That's true, actually. Those 'package tours' often featured a fair few acts. I'm not sure off-hand when it was that the Stones broke away from these. I know they were in the 'supporting role' during the tours with the Everley Brothers and, later, Jim Leyton.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Stoner72
()
Date: January 1, 2014 16:10
I actually counted the number of gigs the band had played, and they didn't even play their thousandth gig until 1989!
Bruce Springsteen or Cheap Trick, who plays hundreds of gigs a year, blow the Stones' concert numbers away.
Keith's recollections apply to 1964 and 1965, but I don't need to tell you how long ago that was...
Bruce Springsteen or Cheap Trick, who plays hundreds of gigs a year, blow the Stones' concert numbers away.
Keith's recollections apply to 1964 and 1965, but I don't need to tell you how long ago that was...
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
StonedInTokyo
()
Date: January 1, 2014 16:12
Some here seem to think these performances just materialized out of thin air...no soul, no anxiety, no pressure, no coast to coast travel days...year after year.
Keith lived a rock life on the road and it cannot be measured by gig count only.
Keith lived a rock life on the road and it cannot be measured by gig count only.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: January 1, 2014 16:17
Quote
StonedInTokyo
Some here seem to think these performances just materialized out of thin air...no soul, no anxiety, no pressure, no coast to coast travel days...year after year.
Keith lived a rock life on the road and it cannot be measured by gig count only.
'Lived'? He's still doing it! Though be it, at a more relaxed, gentle pace.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
StonedInTokyo
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Date: January 1, 2014 16:19
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Big AlQuote
StonedInTokyo
Some here seem to think these performances just materialized out of thin air...no soul, no anxiety, no pressure, no coast to coast travel days...year after year.
Keith lived a rock life on the road and it cannot be measured by gig count only.
'Lived'? He's still doing it! Though be it, at a more relaxed, gentle pace.
Exactly, my man!
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: January 1, 2014 17:00
The concert logs on this page should help: [www.timeisonourside.com]
They're a bit inconveniently arranged (geographically rather than chronologically)
but ... have fun! :E
They're a bit inconveniently arranged (geographically rather than chronologically)
but ... have fun! :E
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: January 1, 2014 17:23
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CousinCQuote
His Majesty
1963 - 1966 is nuts touring wise.
But don't forget these gigs were 15-25 minutes only. Lots of bands on the stages then.
Yeah, but the hassles involved in getting there etc etc is the same whether they play for 2 hours or half an hour.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
Aquamarine
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Date: January 1, 2014 22:44
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Big AlQuote
CousinCQuote
His Majesty
1963 - 1966 is nuts touring wise.
But don't forget these gigs were 15-25 minutes only. Lots of bands on the stages then.
That's true, actually. Those 'package tours' often featured a fair few acts. I'm not sure off-hand when it was that the Stones broke away from these. I know they were in the 'supporting role' during the tours with the Everley Brothers and, later, Jim Leyton.
John Leyton? They weren't supporting him, were they? (Not sure, it was a long time ago!)
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
CousinC
()
Date: January 2, 2014 15:28
Even after the package tours they often had quite a few - mostly 3-4 opening bands.
But HM is right about the hassles then.
But HM is right about the hassles then.
Re: Keith and how he implies the Stones were on the road all the time...
Posted by:
stewedandkeefed
()
Date: January 2, 2014 18:39
I think the original idea behind this post is accurate. In fact in 72 Jagger said "We're not very hard working really. Some bands stay on the road all the time. The Stones played 250 gigs in the seventies. The Who and Led Zep had similar numbers. Some musicians romanticize the time spent on the road but in the seventies they made sure demand was bigger than supply.
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