Of course we all know about the "My sweet Lord" thing, but I guess only few know where the famous Chuck Berry intros came from.
This was published in 1946, 10 years before Chucks rise began.





Any other examples?



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Led Zeppelin is always a good starting point.

Plagiarism in rock and roll? It's all plagiarism.

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Roadster32
Of course we all know about the "My sweet Lord" thing

It's also not hard to figure out where the first line of "Something" came from ....






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Led Zeppelin is always a good starting point.

Any band that has ever existed is a good starting point.

The word 'plagiarism' is misused terribly in the rock-world, it seems.

I'm not even sure if an an act or artist borrowing the odd melody or riff, bothers me at all, truthfully. Zeppelin, Oasis... they all did it to varying degrees. Whoop-de-@#$%&'-do.



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agree to everything, but that a 1:1 copy even rhythmicaly.

I think people just wanna protect their favourite bands, I've seen people get angry the moment when somebody says that Zeppelin didnt write their songs, they stole lyrics, riffs, everything..and it's true. Having said that - I love Zeppelin - great musicians yes, songwriters - no. There was never a songwriter in that band



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I think people just wanna protect their favourite bands, I've seen people get angry the moment when somebody says that Zeppelin didnt write their songs, they stole lyrics, riffs, everything..and it's true. Having said that - I love Zeppelin - great musicians yes, songwriters - no. There was never a songwriter in that band

Yeah, no songwriters at all in that band.

Good Times Bad Times
Communication Breakdown
Your Time Is Gonna Come
What Is and What Should Never Be
Thank You
Hearbreaker
Living Loving Maid
Ramble On
Immigrant Song
Celebration Day
Since I've Been Loving You
Tangerine
That's The Way
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Black Dog
Rock and Roll
The Battle of Evermore
Stairway To Heaven
Misty Mountain Hop
Going to California
The Song Remains The Same
The Rain Song
Over the Hills and Far Away
Dancing Days
The Ocean
The Rover
Houses of the Holy
Trampled Under Foot
Kashmir
In The Light
Down By The Seaside
Ten Years Gone
Night Flight
The Wanton Song
Black Country Woman
Sick Again
Achilles Last Stand
For Your Life
Royal Orleans
Candy Store Rock
Hots On For Nowhere
Tea for One
In The Evening
Fool in the Rain
All My Love
Ozone Baby
I'm Gonna Crawl

LZ was a great band period.

All bands plagiarise.

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"Satisfaction" got nicked by Neil Young with "Mr Soul".
Karma at work : Young's "Helpless" got nicked by B. Dylan with "Heaven's Door"...

From the expanded 2000 edition of LENNON REMEMBERS (bit not in the original edition):

LENNON: "...I ended up writing COME TOGETHER...And they're suing me because it's like YOU CAN'T CATCH ME, for the first half a line or something, because Chuck Berry's words went something like that. But anyway, it's not him that's suing me, it's his people. So you have to not put that in because they'll say, `Oh there, he admitted it.' And I think it's a compliment to Chuck Berry...[laughs]—I mean we resurrected him." p.90

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"Satisfaction" got nicked by Neil Young with "Mr Soul".
Karma at work : Young's "Helpless" got nicked by B. Dylan with "Heaven's Door"...

The Satisfaction riff is in itself a steal.

From 1:23, this Pat Boone hit sounds rather familiar, no?

Noel G. talking about plagiarism :-

How many times for this "discussion"? Especially the Zeppelin part? I don't understand why folks always think, or pretend to think, that it's new territory.

I posted this a couple days ago in the Lou Reed thread because it's something I just found out about. Lou Reed was definitely a fan of The Bobby Fuller Four, a U.S. act best known for their 1966 hit I Fought The Law, and he used the guitar riff from a song of theirs, Only When I Dream, as the basis for his song Vicious. It's pretty obvious, but rather than "plagiarism" I think it just honors the influence of one of his favorite bands. Nothing wrong with that, is there? The songs are, otherwise, completely different.

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Aquamarine
How many times for this "discussion"? Especially the Zeppelin part? I don't understand why folks always think, or pretend to think, that it's new territory.

Are you saying this thread is plagiarizing earlier threads?

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I think people just wanna protect their favourite bands, I've seen people get angry the moment when somebody says that Zeppelin didnt write their songs, they stole lyrics, riffs, everything..and it's true. Having said that - I love Zeppelin - great musicians yes, songwriters - no. There was never a songwriter in that band

Yeah, no songwriters at all in that band.

Good Times Bad Times
Communication Breakdown
Your Time Is Gonna Come
What Is and What Should Never Be
Thank You
Hearbreaker
Living Loving Maid
Ramble On
Immigrant Song
Celebration Day
Since I've Been Loving You
Tangerine
That's The Way
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Black Dog
Rock and Roll
The Battle of Evermore
Stairway To Heaven
Misty Mountain Hop
Going to California
The Song Remains The Same
The Rain Song
Over the Hills and Far Away
Dancing Days
The Ocean
The Rover
Houses of the Holy
Trampled Under Foot
Kashmir
In The Light
Down By The Seaside
Ten Years Gone
Night Flight
The Wanton Song
Black Country Woman
Sick Again
Achilles Last Stand
For Your Life
Royal Orleans
Candy Store Rock
Hots On For Nowhere
Tea for One
In The Evening
Fool in the Rain
All My Love
Ozone Baby
I'm Gonna Crawl

now that's a long list of stolen riffs, lyrics, melodies, etc..but no point in making another zeppelin thread..this issue has already been well covered on this site..All music is inspired by something but when you steal lyrics, riffs, etc and entire songs like in the case of Dazed And Confuzed - you cant call yourself a songwriter - you're a thief. And that's the case of Zeppelin - the greatest cover band in the history of rock n roll.

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Lou Reed was definitely a fan of The Bobby Fuller Four, a U.S. act best known for their 1966 hit I Fought The Law, and he used the guitar riff from a song of theirs, Only When I Dream, as the basis for his song Vicious.

When I first heard VICIOUS I thought Lou Reed was plagiarizing himself...the guitar backing in SWEET JANE. I later heard Reed say as much. Incidentally, Andy Warhol said to Reed, "Why don't you write a song called VICIOUS?" Reed said, "What kind of vicious?" Warhol: "Vicious, I hit you with a flower."

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Aquamarine
How many times for this "discussion"? Especially the Zeppelin part? I don't understand why folks always think, or pretend to think, that it's new territory.

Are you saying this thread is plagiarizing earlier threads?

Ha!

Also, yes.

My favorite in this category is "Borrowed Tune" by Neil Young. If you've never heard it see if you can name the tune he borrowed and who he borrowed it from before the song is over. Sorry I don't know how to post youtube videos,but I'm pretty sure they'd have it.

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varv
I don't know how to post youtube videos,but I'm pretty sure they'd have it.

here ya go...

Thanks!

My son heard this last night at a party:




And then said wait a minute. He remembered this.





and thus my morning was ruined

Richard Hell, come on!

and trivia- the original tune was written by my old friend, the poet, Rod Mckuen



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and your poet friend, he didn't pinch the line 'some people like to rock, some people like too roll'?

he may have - but that's a lot more generic than a chorus/melody that goes
I belong to the ____ generation!
and
i can take it or leave it each time