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Yes, because you are confused.
By what?
That the 60's stuff isn't punk.
You're questioning my musical superiority (even before you get paid)??
Crazy Mama beats Beast Of Burden, Miss You, Imagination and Before They Make Me Run?
I need some of the stuff you're smoking, obviously - because I'm not with you at all here, even though I think CM is ok
Absolutely.
Erk, even I can see this is crackpipe material!
CM beats at least Miss You. But not BOB. Imagination doesn't count, that's no Stonessong but a cover. A draw with Run (overrated plaintive song).
The lyrics of Run are so uncool Dandie. For god's sake, who the hell would make KEITH run! No one. Not even Jagger!
+1000
I love these posts with people trying to deny these were punk songs. I think some posters just love to be looked at as out of the box thinkers, I guess you are right and everyone was just fooled into thinking they were punk. This despite you admitting in your post that these 2 songs could be considered a nod to punk.
And wrong it was great when the Stones did punk. IT fit them perfectly. Actually the whole Some Girls Album fit perfectly.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: December 17, 2013 17:20
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DandelionPowderman
Well, I hear the embryo of punk in those recordings
Yes, because you are confused.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
Witness
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Date: December 17, 2013 17:53
One question might be if cultural context sometimes contributes more or less behind the actors' back. Or some actors might even be partly aware of the arriving shifts in it. New or renewed forms emerge, where similar efforts before would not have led to the same effect as at the later stage. Did not. What before would have resulted in garage music, becomes punk instead. And, despite some similar aspects, is decisively different.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
71Tele
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Date: December 17, 2013 18:06
The Stones last great re-invention was Some Girls, and Respectable has a great punk-thrash swagger, along with the three-guitar attack that helped make that album so exciting.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 17, 2013 18:33
Quote
His MajestyQuote
DandelionPowderman
Well, I hear the embryo of punk in those recordings
Yes, because you are confused.
By what?
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 17, 2013 18:38
Quote
DandelionPowderman
By what?
That the 60's stuff isn't punk.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 17, 2013 18:41
Quote
His MajestyQuote
DandelionPowderman
By what?
That the 60's stuff isn't punk.
You're questioning my musical superiority (even before you get paid)??
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
liddas
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Date: December 17, 2013 18:54
Punk or not punk, I don't care: Respectable is just great music.
And I love all the little tricks they used to use to keep a 3 m I / IV / V rocker interesting, such as the E not played after the first verse, played twice during chorus, once during the solo etc.
Bill of course is majestic.
Live, 78 was so huge that for years I couldn't even listen to the old farts version they played in the vegas era. Now that I am an old fart myself I love also that version.
C
And I love all the little tricks they used to use to keep a 3 m I / IV / V rocker interesting, such as the E not played after the first verse, played twice during chorus, once during the solo etc.
Bill of course is majestic.
Live, 78 was so huge that for years I couldn't even listen to the old farts version they played in the vegas era. Now that I am an old fart myself I love also that version.
C
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 17, 2013 19:04
Yeah, gotta love songs like Black Limo and Rooster with 13 bars, and playing around with the "established concept" of the blues.
They learned it from guys like John Lee, Jimmy and Muddy, though
They learned it from guys like John Lee, Jimmy and Muddy, though
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
blivet
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Date: December 17, 2013 21:20
Never cared for Some Girls. Truly an overrated album. The two by-the-numbers rockers from Black and Blue beat anything on it hands down.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
Green Lady
()
Date: December 17, 2013 21:23
Hate Lies. Love this....
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 17, 2013 22:58
Quote
blivet
Never cared for Some Girls. Truly an overrated album. The two by-the-numbers rockers from Black and Blue beat anything on it hands down.
Crazy Mama beats Beast Of Burden, Miss You, Imagination and Before They Make Me Run?
I need some of the stuff you're smoking, obviously - because I'm not with you at all here, even though I think CM is ok
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: December 17, 2013 23:03
Never cared for Some Girls. Truly an overrated album.
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
blivet
()
Date: December 17, 2013 23:08
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
blivet
Never cared for Some Girls. Truly an overrated album. The two by-the-numbers rockers from Black and Blue beat anything on it hands down.
Crazy Mama beats Beast Of Burden, Miss You, Imagination and Before They Make Me Run?
Absolutely.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 17, 2013 23:22
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
blivet
Never cared for Some Girls. Truly an overrated album. The two by-the-numbers rockers from Black and Blue beat anything on it hands down.
Crazy Mama beats Beast Of Burden, Miss You, Imagination and Before They Make Me Run?
I need some of the stuff you're smoking, obviously - because I'm not with you at all here, even though I think CM is ok
Erk, even I can see this is crackpipe material!
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: December 18, 2013 01:16
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
blivet
Never cared for Some Girls. Truly an overrated album. The two by-the-numbers rockers from Black and Blue beat anything on it hands down.
Crazy Mama beats Beast Of Burden, Miss You, Imagination and Before They Make Me Run?
I need some of the stuff you're smoking, obviously - because I'm not with you at all here, even though I think CM is ok
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: December 18, 2013 19:06
Quote
71TeleQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
blivet
Never cared for Some Girls. Truly an overrated album. The two by-the-numbers rockers from Black and Blue beat anything on it hands down.
Crazy Mama beats Beast Of Burden, Miss You, Imagination and Before They Make Me Run?
I need some of the stuff you're smoking, obviously - because I'm not with you at all here, even though I think CM is ok
CM beats at least Miss You. But not BOB. Imagination doesn't count, that's no Stonessong but a cover. A draw with Run (overrated plaintive song).
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 18, 2013 21:01
Easy on that pipe, kleerie!
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: December 18, 2013 22:12
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Easy on that pipe, kleerie!
The lyrics of Run are so uncool Dandie. For god's sake, who the hell would make KEITH run! No one. Not even Jagger!
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
OzHeavyThrobber
()
Date: December 19, 2013 13:40
The line is "go take my wife"; the song is a goodie but deserved a second verse; "Lies" is a little ball tearer.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 19, 2013 13:51
Well now we're respected in society
We don't worry about the things that we used to be
We're talking heroin with the President
Yes there's a problem, sir, but it can't be bent
Ah yes
Well now you're a pillar of society
You don't worry about the things that you used to be
You're a rag trade girl, you're the queen of porn
You're the easiest lay on the White House lawn
Get out of my life, don't come back
She's so respectable
She's so delectable
She's so respectable
Get out of my life
Don't take my wife, don't come back
All right boys
We don't worry about the things that we used to be
We're talking heroin with the President
Yes there's a problem, sir, but it can't be bent
Ah yes
Well now you're a pillar of society
You don't worry about the things that you used to be
You're a rag trade girl, you're the queen of porn
You're the easiest lay on the White House lawn
Get out of my life, don't come back
She's so respectable
She's so delectable
She's so respectable
Get out of my life
Don't take my wife, don't come back
All right boys
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
OzHeavyThrobber
()
Date: December 19, 2013 13:57
That's just a double first verse and there's nothing after the first chorus. Could have done with one. And all I hear is "go" not "don't take my wife" and apart from that the latter makes no sense.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 19, 2013 14:05
It's both. "Go" the first two times, and "Don't" on number 3, 4, and 5. Then "Go again" on number 6.
Those lyrics from timeisonourside.com aren't accurate. I just listened again. Sounds like "Right now", instead of "well now" as well...
Songs like this one really don't need a bridge or more verses. With the guitar solos and Mick's vocal crescendos it works fine, imo. You can't let rockers like this one last for 5 minutes, either
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-19 14:05 by DandelionPowderman.
Those lyrics from timeisonourside.com aren't accurate. I just listened again. Sounds like "Right now", instead of "well now" as well...
Songs like this one really don't need a bridge or more verses. With the guitar solos and Mick's vocal crescendos it works fine, imo. You can't let rockers like this one last for 5 minutes, either
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-19 14:05 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
big4
()
Date: December 19, 2013 15:17
Quote
DandelionPowderman
It's both. "Go" the first two times, and "Don't" on number 3, 4, and 5. Then "Go again" on number 6.
Those lyrics from timeisonourside.com aren't accurate. I just listened again. Sounds like "Right now", instead of "well now" as well...
Songs like this one really don't need a bridge or more verses. With the guitar solos and Mick's vocal crescendos it works fine, imo. You can't let rockers like this one last for 5 minutes, either
+1000
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
Title5Take1
()
Date: June 18, 2015 08:40
Well now you're a PILLAR of society...
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-06-18 08:43 by Title5Take1.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-06-18 08:43 by Title5Take1.
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
crumbling_mice
()
Date: June 18, 2015 11:44
Great song...but not a punk song, and I agree with His majesty, the Stones attempting to be punks was cringing and they didn't need to even try, they were out punking the punks a decade before punk appeared. Just about every punk guitarist based themselves on Keith but few could play anywhere near as good.
I guess the Punk era jolted the band into action but that is all and Some Girls, only has 2 songs which could be deemed a nod to punk tempo and lyric wise and in reality they were just rock songs and Star @#$%& was probably more punk and that was out in 73?
I guess the Punk era jolted the band into action but that is all and Some Girls, only has 2 songs which could be deemed a nod to punk tempo and lyric wise and in reality they were just rock songs and Star @#$%& was probably more punk and that was out in 73?
Re: Track Talk: Respectable
Posted by:
stanlove
()
Date: June 18, 2015 15:58
Quote
crumbling_mice
Great song...but not a punk song, and I agree with His majesty, the Stones attempting to be punks was cringing and they didn't need to even try, they were out punking the punks a decade before punk appeared. Just about every punk guitarist based themselves on Keith but few could play anywhere near as good.
I guess the Punk era jolted the band into action but that is all and Some Girls, only has 2 songs which could be deemed a nod to punk tempo and lyric wise and in reality they were just rock songs and Star @#$%& was probably more punk and that was out in 73?
I love these posts with people trying to deny these were punk songs. I think some posters just love to be looked at as out of the box thinkers, I guess you are right and everyone was just fooled into thinking they were punk. This despite you admitting in your post that these 2 songs could be considered a nod to punk.
And wrong it was great when the Stones did punk. IT fit them perfectly. Actually the whole Some Girls Album fit perfectly.
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