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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: JJHMick ()
Date: January 28, 2018 21:33

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dave9199
With printing there are two color choices; red, blue & green, or cyan, yellow, magenta & black. The second set is the opposite color of the first set except for black. Written as RGB or CMYK.

Thank you, very interesting! I've been taught that black (and white) were not regarded as a colour at all. But that's obviously science and not reality!

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: January 31, 2018 00:07

It was 49 years ago today...
[vimeo.com]


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: January 31, 2018 01:56

Thanks Deltics always fun to watch...............

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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: February 1, 2018 22:31

The Beatles in India

A feature film documentary about Transcendental Meditation, the quest for inner peace, prolific song-writing and the road to The White Album...Set to be released in 2018

UK, London: Thursday 1st February 2018 – New feature film documentary THE BEATLES IN INDIA, directed by two time Emmy award winning producer-director, Paul Saltzman and produced by Paul Saltzman & Reynold D'Silva for Sunrise Films, Ren/oir Pictures & Silva Screen is set to be released worldwide in Autumn 2018.

In 1968, with the eyes of the world upon them, The Beatles travelled to Rishikesh, India, to study Transcendental Meditation with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in a remote ashram on the banks of the sacred river Ganges. Those few short weeks became one of the most prolific and creative periods of their lives.

Also present at the ashram was a young Canadian filmmaker named Paul Saltzman, there to heal a recently broken heart while seeking his own path to understanding and enlightenment. In the informal and relaxed atmosphere, he captured some of the most famous and intimate photographic portraits of The Beatles ever taken.

The film details Saltzman's return journey to India, The Beatles stay and the songs they composed at the ashram as well as meditation as it applies to creativity, the divine inner journey and the healing power of love and music.

Integral to the story will be the background of many of the songs written in India and how they progressed through their initial writing, intensive rehearsals back in England and the release of the White Album on November 22nd, 1968.

Rarely seen footage and images, in depth interviews from India, the UK and North America and an authoritative team behind the film heralds its release later this year.

Producer Reynold D’Silva said: "The idea of a Beatles in India documentary has been with me since the mid-nineties. By pure coincidence, or perhaps it was fate, three separate people put me in touch with Paul early last year. It turned out he had been harbouring the idea for even longer than I had! After our first phone call, we were set on a path to produce the film together. Paul has a stellar track record in his field of producing and directing films. He has a clear vision with a profound knowledge of the subject matter borne out by the fact he was at the ashram in Rishikesh with The Beatles in February, 1968."

[www.beatlesinindiamovie.com]

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: February 2, 2018 00:45

Thanks Cristiano - this should be very good.
Nearly 50 years since the White album was released - will their be a deluxe version as there was with Sgt. Peppers? Hope so. thumbs up

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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: February 2, 2018 01:15

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Hairball
Thanks Cristiano - this should be very good.
Nearly 50 years since the White album was released - will their be a deluxe version as there was with Sgt. Peppers? Hope so. thumbs up

Yes, they said there will be.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: February 2, 2018 01:22

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Hairball
Thanks Cristiano - this should be very good.
Nearly 50 years since the White album was released - will their be a deluxe version as there was with Sgt. Peppers? Hope so. thumbs up

Yes, they said there will be.

They did? I thought is was still a rumour at this point:

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Cristiano Radtke

Mojo Magazine #291 (February 2018)

"APRIL 2018 & BEYOND

The rumours are that Apple and Universal will reissue a 50th anniversary edition of ‘The Beatles‘ aka The White Album this year. The 50th anniversary is in November so if this happens, it won’t be a summer release like last year’s Sgt. Pepper. Expect ‘Esher demos’, outtakes and more, although a 5.1 mix of the entire double album doesn’t seem very likely…"

[www.superdeluxeedition.com]

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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: February 2, 2018 01:25

In that blurb above about the Beatles in India, it reads: "Those few short weeks became one of the most prolific and creative periods of their lives."

Not too sure about that -- they were down to an album or so a year by that point, and it seems that most of their best work was already behind them.

How about writing and recording the album for A Hard Day's Night in just 10 days? It doesn't get any more prolific and creative than that.

Will the film mention how Ringo couldn't stand the food there, and that he had to have an emergency suitcase of Heinz baked beans flown in, just so he could tolerate his stay there?

Does it mention how Paul became quickly bored? And what about John's remark about the "awful vegetarian food" that was all there was to eat there?

Or about what "inspired" the song Dear Prudence?

The Beatles in India is really about George Harrison -- yeah, that's it! Call the film The Beatle in India, include some footage of him in India in 1966 during their break after they stopped touring, where he's studying the sitar; recreate how his ashes were scattered along the Ganges as his final request.

But don't try to sell me The Beatles in India like it became some huge deal that enhanced the output of their musical legacy, because that's a stretch. It was just a fad they looked into, because George suggested it, and only George carried the teachings forward with him through life.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: February 2, 2018 01:42

Interesting article from the New York Times (2008):

Meditation on the Man Who Saved the Beatles

By ALLAN KOZINNFEB. 7, 2008

“Maharishi — what have you done? You made a fool of everyone.”

That was the opening line of a sarcastic song about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who died on Tuesday, that John Lennon wrote in 1968, not long after the Beatles abruptly left the maharishi’s ashram in Rishikesh, India, and declared themselves no longer his spiritual disciples. It wasn’t released that way. In the end the other Beatles, particularly George Harrison, argued that whatever disagreements they had with the maharishi, his work demanded respect, and it was unfair (and perhaps libelous) to be so blunt.

Lennon retreated, changing the song’s title, and the references to the maharishi in its lyrics, to “Sexy Sadie,”the form in which it can be heard on “The Beatles,”commonly called the White Album.

“Sexy Sadie,” for all its implicit anger, was part of a huge trove of songs Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison wrote during and just after their visit to Rishikesh. Whatever shortcomings the Beatles’ interaction with the maharishi may have had, the experience — which lasted only eight months, from August 1967 to April 1968 — seems to have opened a floodgate of creativity and got them out of what threatened to be a creative rut.

That may seem an odd assertion, given that the group had only recently released “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.”But part of the point of that album was to overcome the inertia imposed by the stress of being the Beatles by posing as someone else: the Sgt. Pepper band. And although it includes some of the Beatles’ most extraordinary music (“A Day in the Life,”for starters), it had been a struggle to fill it. Lennon, after all, had based one song on the text of a circus poster (“Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite”) and another on a Corn Flakes commercial (“Good Morning, Good Morning”), simply, he later said, as a way of fulfilling his quota. After Rishikesh the group found itself with more new songs than it knew what to do with.

The Beatles’ first encounter with the maharishi was at a lecture in London, not long after the release of “Sgt. Pepper.” Harrison and his first wife, Pattie, who had become interested in Indian culture and Hinduism by way of Harrison’s involvement with the sitar and a visit to India in the fall of 1966, had heard him speak and alerted the others.

At the time the Beatles, especially Lennon and Harrison, were still trying to tap into the cosmic subconscious, or eternity, or whatever, by using LSD. The maharishi’s transcendental meditation techniques promised to get them there without the chemicals. They agreed to attend a retreat in Bangor, Wales, at the end of that August, and it was during the retreat that they learned that Brian Epstein, their manager, had died of a drug overdose.

The Maharishi helped them through the shock with Hindu philosophy about the continuing life of the soul, and a few months later, in February 1968, the Beatles flew to Rishikesh to devote themselves fully to his instruction. Also there at the time were Mike Love of the Beach Boys, Donovan and the actress Mia Farrow and her sister Prudence (immortalized in a Beatles song from the same batch as “Sexy Sadie”).

Ringo Starr left after the first week, saying he was unable to eat spicy food. Mr. McCartney left about three weeks later, and Lennon and Harrison left about two weeks after that, after hearing rumors that the maharishi had made sexual advances to one of the women in the ashram. Lennon, as the group’s designated defiant loudmouth, went to the maharishi and said, “We’re leaving,” adding only — as he reported the story in interviews — “If you’re so cosmic, you’ll know why.”

In the years since Lennon’s death, in 1980, Harrison and Mr. McCartney reconsidered the accusations against the Maharishi. Mr. McCartney has noted that the rumors of sexual impropriety were raised by Alexis Mardas, a supposed inventor and charlatan who had become a Beatles insider. “Magic Alex,” as he was known, had agendas of his own, and may have fabricated (or at least exaggerated) the story. (Mr. Mardas has never commented on the incident.) During the 1990s both Harrison and Mr. McCartney were suitably convinced of the maharishi’s innocence that they reconciled with him and offered apologies.

What is often overlooked, in recountings of this sorry tale, is the influence the maharishi — or at least the experience of going to Rishikesh to meditate for several weeks — had on the group. For one thing, he weaned them from LSD. Harrison had been heading in that direction anyway, and Mr. McCartney and Mr. Starr were only occasional users, but Lennon was a heavy user. Not that they gave up drugs entirely. They continued to smoke marijuana, and a year later Lennon was using heroin.

But whatever other powers transcendental meditation had, under its influence they wrote like demons. The main body of evidence is the White Album, a two-disc collection of 30 songs, more than twice the number on any previous Beatles album. And that doesn’t count two songs — George Harrison’s “Not Guilty”(which bears traces of bruised feelings over the maharishi incident) and “What’s the New Mary Jane” — that were recorded during the White Album sessions but left unreleased until “Anthology 3,” in 1996.

But that wasn’t all. While in India they recorded an acoustic version of a song called “Spiritual Regeneration,” a kind of theme song for the maharishi’s program. And in May 1968, a week before the White Album sessions began, the Beatles gathered at Harrison’s house in Esher, England, to run through their Rishikesh songs and decide which to record formally. A tape of 27 songs from that session has made the collectors’ rounds, and there may be more on the master tape, which the Harrison family owns.

Most of the songs on the Esher tape found their way to the White Album. But included as well are Lennon’s “Mean Mr. Mustard” and “Polythene Pam,” which appeared on the “Abbey Road” album, in 1969. “What’s the New Mary Jane” — long thought to be a bizarre studio improvisation — is included too, as is “Child of Nature,” a gentle tune Lennon later rewrote as “Jealous Guy,” on his “Imagine”album.

The only non-White Album song by Paul McCartney on the tape is “Junk,”which found its way to his first solo album, “McCartney,” in 1970. But Harrison’s contributions are plentiful. Along with the White Album songs “Piggies”and “While My Guitar Gently Weeps,” the Esher tape also includes “Not Guilty” (which he remade for the 1979 album “George Harrison”), “Circles”(which didn’t turn up until “Gone Troppo,” in 1982) and “Sour Milk Sea” (which he gave to the singer Jackie Lomax for his first single on the Beatles’ Apple label).

Harrison said in an interview near the end of his life that the Esher tape would make a great “Beatles Unplugged” album. Apple should consider that. Meanwhile you have to wonder whether the Beatles’ future might have played out differently if Magic Alex hadn’t been in Rishikesh to spread rumors about the Maharishi. Instead of unraveling, as they did during the White Album sessions and throughout 1969, maybe meditation would have made them so prolific and contented that they’d have continued together, releasing a double album every six months or so.

Well, probably not. But the maharishi, in 1968, was good for what ailed them.

Editors’ Note: March 4, 2010

A commentary published on Feb. 7, 2008, in the Arts section discussed the impact of the recently deceased Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on the Beatles and their music. The article mentioned in passing Alexis Mardas, known as “Magic Alex,” who worked on various inventions for the Beatles in the late 1960s and traveled with the group to the Maharishi’s ashram in India in 1968. While expressing skepticism about his work as an inventor during that period, the article did not accuse Mr. Mardas of engaging in fraudulent dealings or criminality, either then or at any subsequent time.

The article also said that the Beatles had a falling-out with the Maharishi after Mr. Mardas reported that the Maharishi had made improper advances toward a woman, a report the Beatles later came to doubt. The Times’s reporting on those events was attributed to Paul McCartney and based on widely published accounts from books and magazines, including some by those who were at the ashram. Mr. Mardas, who could not be reached prior to publication, has now denied that version of the events and provided The Times with a statement (link to this statement in article link).

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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: February 2, 2018 01:47

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Hairball
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Hairball
Thanks Cristiano - this should be very good.
Nearly 50 years since the White album was released - will their be a deluxe version as there was with Sgt. Peppers? Hope so. thumbs up

Yes, they said there will be.

They did? I thought is was still a rumour at this point:

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Cristiano Radtke

Mojo Magazine #291 (February 2018)

"APRIL 2018 & BEYOND

The rumours are that Apple and Universal will reissue a 50th anniversary edition of ‘The Beatles‘ aka The White Album this year. The 50th anniversary is in November so if this happens, it won’t be a summer release like last year’s Sgt. Pepper. Expect ‘Esher demos’, outtakes and more, although a 5.1 mix of the entire double album doesn’t seem very likely…"

[www.superdeluxeedition.com]

Huh, I thought it was confirmed already. Guess I'm wrong, my bad!

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: February 2, 2018 11:50

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RollingFreak

Huh, I thought it was confirmed already.

Yes, already officially confirmed in May 2017 by Giles Martin in a BBC-Interview: [iorr.org] , [www.nme.com] .

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: February 2, 2018 18:41

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Huh, I thought it was confirmed already.

Yes, already officially confirmed in May 2017 by Giles Martin in a BBC-Interview: [iorr.org] , [www.nme.com] .

Nice! thumbs up

Not sure why that other recent story is still calling it rumours?

Oh well...joy to the world!

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Re: Beatles alternate timeline book
Posted by: dave9199 ()
Date: February 12, 2018 02:36

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dave9199
I've only posted on this forum only a couple of times but figured there would be people here interested in reading an alternate timeline of The Beatles in the 1970's. It's a free pdf file. Pass the link along to anyone who may be interested. Enjoy!

Band On The Run

Just bumping my post.

Re: Beatles alternate timeline book
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: February 12, 2018 12:15

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dave9199

Just bumping my post.

This one too .... smiling smiley




New Book by David Parent: "Band On The Run: The Beatles in the 1970's - an alternative Timeline"

Free PDF-Download: [iorr.org] .

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: February 12, 2018 20:42

When did they manage to return to the stage (in the 70s) for 'one last time'?

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: February 12, 2018 20:44

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jlowe
When did they manage to return to the stage (in the 70s) for 'one last time'?

OOPS!
Of course...a work of fiction.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: JJHMick ()
Date: February 13, 2018 00:24

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jlowe
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jlowe
When did they manage to return to the stage (in the 70s) for 'one last time'?

OOPS!
Of course...a work of fiction.

If they had followed how the Stones handled the same problems they could have existed (up to John's death, of course).

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: DrPete ()
Date: February 13, 2018 03:31

I believe when George was on SNL, Paul was at the Dakota and him and John briefly thought about showing up on SNL... Aaagh, what never was..

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: February 13, 2018 04:38

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I believe when George was on SNL, Paul was at the Dakota and him and John briefly thought about showing up on SNL... Aaagh, what never was..

Here's when Lorne Michaels offered the Beatles a whopping $3,000 to reunite:

The Beatles are offered $3000 to reform as John and Paul watch the show from the Dakota. 1976
Video description: It was meant as a joke, but it turned into, arguably, the greatest missed opportunity in rock history. On April 24, 1976, John Lennon and Paul McCartney nearly took Lorne Michaels up on his offer to have the Beatles perform on Saturday Night Live. Michaels, the producer of the show that was in its first season, spoke directly into the camera about how the Beatles had affected his and his generation’s lives. “In my book, the Beatles are the best thing that ever happened to music. It goes even deeper than that — you’re not just a musical group, you’re a part of us. We grew up with you.” He then made the offer. “Now, we’ve heard and read a lot about personality and legal conflicts that might prevent you guys from reuniting. That’s something which is none of my business. That’s a personal problem. You guys will have to handle that. But it’s also been said that no one has yet to come up with enough money to satisfy you. Well, if it’s money you want, there’s no problem here. The National Broadcasting Company has authorized me to offer you this check to be on our show. A certified check for $3,000.” The camera zoomed in on the piece of paper in Michaels’ hand. “All you have to do is sing three Beatles songs.” he continued. “‘She Loves You,’ yeah, yeah, yeah — that’s $1,000 right there. You know the words. It’ll be easy. Like I said, this is made out to ‘The Beatles.’ You divide it anyway you want. If you want to give Ringo [Starr] less, that’s up to you. I’d rather not get involved.” Unknown to Michaels and the rest of the world, the Beatles’ two principal songwriters were about only one and a half miles away, watching the show along with 22 million other people. As Lennon said in 1980, “Paul … was visiting us at our place in the Dakota. We were watching it and almost went down to the studio, just as a gag. We nearly got into a cab, but we were actually too tired. … He and I were just sitting there watching the show, and we went, ‘Ha ha, wouldn’t it be funny if we went down? But we didn’t.” McCartney has confirmed that this took place. “John said, ‘We should go down, just you and me. There’s only two of us so we’ll take half the money.’ And for a second. … But It would have been work, and we were having a night off, so we elected not to go. It was a nice idea – we nearly did it.”

Here's Paul discussing the story:
Paul McCartney on being W/John in the Dakota as SNL were offering $ for a Beatles reunion smiling smiley
Video description: Great little story from Paul McCartney about sitting in The Dakota with John Lennon watching NBC as they jokingly offered money for a Beatles reunion and Paul says for "a split second John and I were going to do it"

And here's George who was a guest a few weeks later asking for the $3000 during the opening only to be told the offer was for four people!
George Harrison turns up at SNL wanting his $3000!
Video description:Weeks earlier Lorne Michaels had offered $3000 for a Beatles reunion as John Lennon and Paul McCartney watched the show live from the Dakota.. It's a 4 way deal George.

In a more serious interview around the same time, George discusses the possibility of a Beatles reunion.
George Harrison talks a $50 million Beatles reunion and his new record company. 1976.
Video description: Great and rare little interview on American TV as George launched his new record company..... And the eternal question... "Will you ever get back together?". George still seems hopeful for the future, he just knows his place in popular culture is secure!

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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: dave9199 ()
Date: February 13, 2018 15:25

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When did they manage to return to the stage (in the 70s) for 'one last time'?

OOPS!
Of course...a work of fiction.

There is a lot of fact in it. I mixed fact and fiction. I call it fict. It's full of it!

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: February 13, 2018 21:54


Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: February 14, 2018 00:25

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jlowe
When did they manage to return to the stage (in the 70s) for 'one last time'?

OOPS!
Of course...a work of fiction.

If they had followed how the Stones handled the same problems they could have existed (up to John's death, of course).

Lennon wouldn't have been assassinated.

With the Beatles still a working unit through the 70s, they remain at their London home base. That means that he doesn't come to New York to get caught up with bogus political causes by questionable characters like Jerry Rubin -- so no hassles with the FBI. His main work that decade is with the Beatles and not Yoko. He doesn't retire from music in 1975 to become a house-husband only to re-emerge 5 years later as a rich businessman -- so no reason for a certain [name not typewritten here] to pick up a magazine interview in 1980 and go, "That hypocrite!"

Likewise, George Harrison might still be alive. He had a case of hepatitis C in the 1970s, probably brought on from extensive drug use. He might have kept more healthy during that time with the Beatles providing steady work, and less insecurity over a declining solo career. Hep C can lead to cancer, and the attack in 1999 by [name not typewritten here] certainly didn't help with his recurring bouts of cancer, and no doubt contributed to the complete breakdown of his defenses. But with no Lennon assassination, no attack at Friar Park 19 years later, and with no Hep C early on, no resulting cancer later.

If only they'd stayed together, we'd still have all 4 Beatles today...

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: February 14, 2018 05:46

I sometimes wonder what Lennon would have done if Mark David Chapman had killed Yoko instead of him.

Would he have gone nuts, and blamed the world for hating Yoko? Maybe stop playing music as a result?



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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: February 14, 2018 08:25

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[forums.stevehoffman.tv]

Quote from this link....

Eric Clapton and Patti Boyd were married on March 27, 1979. Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr attended the wedding and a major jam session took place following the ceremony.

I saw a bootleg LP of that jam at the first Record Fair I ever went to... Pick it up next time I thought. Never seen since. I learnt not to miss stuff that day!

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Captain Corella
50+ Years a Fan

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: February 14, 2018 09:19

[www.youtube.com]

John Lennon's purty vicious Dylan impression.
fun tho.

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'I'm a monkey! I'm a monkey! Monkey! monkey! monkey!......."
M. Jagger/K. Richards



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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: February 14, 2018 23:34

It didn't sounded purty vicious to me........I think it was just for the fun............

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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: February 15, 2018 00:33

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[forums.stevehoffman.tv]

Quote from this link....

Eric Clapton and Patti Boyd were married on March 27, 1979. Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr attended the wedding and a major jam session took place following the ceremony.

I saw a bootleg LP of that jam at the first Record Fair I ever went to... Pick it up next time I thought. Never seen since. I learnt not to miss stuff that day!

Apparantly the quality of the music 'played' was pretty bad !

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: JJHMick ()
Date: February 15, 2018 18:56

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stonehearted
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jlowe
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jlowe
When did they manage to return to the stage (in the 70s) for 'one last time'?

OOPS!
Of course...a work of fiction.

If they had followed how the Stones handled the same problems they could have existed (up to John's death, of course).

Lennon wouldn't have been assassinated.

With the Beatles still a working unit through the 70s, they remain at their London home base. That means that he doesn't come to New York to get caught up with bogus political causes by questionable characters like Jerry Rubin -- so no hassles with the FBI. His main work that decade is with the Beatles and not Yoko. He doesn't retire from music in 1975 to become a house-husband only to re-emerge 5 years later as a rich businessman -- so no reason for a certain [name not typewritten here] to pick up a magazine interview in 1980 and go, "That hypocrite!"

Likewise, George Harrison might still be alive. He had a case of hepatitis C in the 1970s, probably brought on from extensive drug use. He might have kept more healthy during that time with the Beatles providing steady work, and less insecurity over a declining solo career. Hep C can lead to cancer, and the attack in 1999 by [name not typewritten here] certainly didn't help with his recurring bouts of cancer, and no doubt contributed to the complete breakdown of his defenses. But with no Lennon assassination, no attack at Friar Park 19 years later, and with no Hep C early on, no resulting cancer later.

If only they'd stayed together, we'd still have all 4 Beatles today...

Imagine... no break up necessary in 1970, just an interruption to make solo records, establishing a solo career, healing wounds.
Returning to being the Fab Four in 1971 after finding out that that beast Beatles is much bigger than they thought (what each Stone learns - but they missed the chance in the 1970s to do as the Beatles, eh, The Beatles described here...).
Getting rid of Allen Klein as the Stones did as proof is on the table he is a con. Hiring Peter Grant or Peter Rudge as a compromise, Paul agrees not to chose his father-in-law.
John can go to the USA as they further follow the Stones' example that Keith described: Sometimes I have a song and it's Jagger/Richards. Sometimes Mick has a song and it's Jagger/Richards. Sometimes we write a song together and it's Jagger/Richards.
They will be heavily critized for their 1972 political album about Giving Ireland back to the Irish and Woman is the Nigger of the World etc. and will make nicer ones later with Paul in the lead.
You say, John doesn't write songs anymore, just doing RnR covers. Wonderful! Ringo has great covers, even George has and Paul would easily be keen on that idea (as he proved later)!
Anyway, the release output in the late 70s wasn't year by year anymore.
Great combined hit-starring solo-go-Beatles records and still enough left for a solo career full of silly love songs deemed to be unbearable as Beatles recordings. A marvellous tribute to their musical cradle, a record breaking comeback tour of the world in 1973/74, resulting in a live album plus all that live vintage material to abridge John's less active time.
Don't forget the green and the orange album.
The Beatles in the 1970s? Happy ever after in the (record) market place!



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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: February 16, 2018 18:28

I doubt that John would have had much truck with all this fiction stuff.
'The Dream is over' (God, 1970).

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: February 16, 2018 18:31

The Beatles have split up?? eye popping smiley


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