Q - What words are you most likely to hear if you see a rock drummer dressed in a three piece suit?

A - "Will the Defendant please rise....."

Not only is Ringo a great drummer...he's a great actor! (cue rimshot)



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Not only is Ringo a great drummer...he's a great actor! (cue rimshot)[/img]

Actually, that was probably the greatest move of his solo career, one that he never regretted -- it got him the hottest of Beatles wives.

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Not only is Ringo a great drummer...he's a great actor! (cue rimshot)[/img]

Actually, that was probably the greatest move of his solo career, one that he never regretted -- it got him the hottest of Beatles wives.

Yes, and they're still happily married!
We used to watch Caveman all the time in the early '80s when it was on cable tv...there's actually some funny/silly stuff in that movie - but maybe you had to be stoned?
Haven't seen it since then, but might have to give it another look and roll up a fatty for old times sake.

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Sometimes I forget; or am not informed enough as a hack musician, what incredibly dynmaic and rocking John's various guitar work was, especially in the early going. On Stones site it's amost a marketplace for 'boy band' derision and accusations; some of that being true when ol Paulie (a tremendous bass player and singer) cloyingly wet-eyed long lashed blinks right into the camera being oh so very cutie cute. i mean they do ask for some of that haha...
but there WAS something primal and earnest; knowing consistent and capable about the rhythm rocking Beatles, the Beatels John in later years said, that were the best Beatles as actual players; honing that bar band stuff into super tight confident performances of a range of material.
He's spectacularly under-rated and ignrored; not the more appreciated lead guitar posision that George held down...
but I stumbled on this guy; an old old tape he made long ago; but he's super understands the nature of John's attack; which strings he emphasized or ignored, which moving chord forms were his standard approach and etc...
...hope someone digs this. found it really enjoyable. and that raw ricky sounds great; the exact setup and dynamics John was pushing and propelling the Beatles songs with; especially interesting just his basic approach; what he did on all the Larry Williams stuff as well as that ultra precise fast thing on All My Loving; or some of the actual riff based stuff he wrote and casually aced time after time....
for dedicated Stones fans who sometimes thing the Beatles could not really rock and all that; well I don't blame them, neither did John; there's a lot of stuff he considered past thier prime as a band; but me, and everybody else in the world pretty much loved anyway....but he was quoted somewhere along the way saying something close to; by the time the beatles really made it they were already not as sharp as the constant bar bands and the first handful of slamming releases...
if u can can enjoy this GREAT, if you can stand your way thru it but have not apprecaited or respected John as a guitarist, maybe you will find some of this clever; see how much he was the rhythmic background and base vibe of the best Beatles stuff....



Learn The Beatles - How To Play Guitar Like John Lennon
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Thoughts on the Beatles from Lemmy (RIP)- one of the hardest badass rockers in the history of Rock and Roll - here's an excerpt from his 2003 autobiography appropriately titled "White Line Fever":

"And the Beatles were hard men too. Brian Epstein cleaned them up for mass consumption, but they were anything but sissies. They were from Liverpool, which is like Hamburg or Norfolk, Virginia--a hard, sea-farin' town, all these dockers and sailors around all the time who would beat the piss out of you if you so much as winked at them. Ringo's from the Dingle, which is like the f***ing Bronx. The Rolling Stones were the mummy's boys--they were all college students from the outskirts of London. They went to starve in London, but it was by choice, to give themselves some sort of aura of disrespectability. I did like the Stones, but they were never anywhere near the Beatles--not for humour, not for originality, not for songs, not for presentation. All they had was Mick Jagger dancing about. Fair enough, the Stones made great records, but they were always s**t on stage, whereas the Beatles were the gear.

I remember one gig the Beatles had at the Cavern, It was just after they got Brian Epstein as their manager. Everyone in Liverpool knew that Epstein was gay, and some kid in the audience screamed, 'John Lennon's a f***ing queer!' And John--who never wore his glasses on stage--put his guitar down and went into the crowd, shouting, 'Who said that?' So this kid says, 'I f***ing did.' John went after him and BAM, gave him the Liverpool kiss, sticking the nut on him--twice! And the kid went down in a mass of blood, snot and teeth. Then John got back on the stage.

'Anybody else?' he asked. Silence. 'All right then. "Some Other Guy".'

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A bit harsh on the Stones indeed , but it's his personal firsthand perspective of actually living through it all.

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Don't know if this has been posted before. It's a listing of Beatles songs from worst to best by one Bill Wyman. Is this him? Can't say I agree with the ranking of various songs, but it's an interesting read, full of musical and historical tidbits, along with its share of snark.

[www.vulture.com]

Not the Bill Wyman we know, but Bill Wyman the author, music writer, and former editor for NPR.

But yes, an interesting and sometimes funny read - one mans opinion - warts and all.

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Don't know if this has been posted before. It's a listing of Beatles songs from worst to best by one Bill Wyman. Is this him? Can't say I agree with the ranking of various songs, but it's an interesting read, full of musical and historical tidbits, along with its share of snark.

[www.vulture.com]

Yes, it is. But not "our" Bill.

[www.sfgate.com]

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Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes
And she's gone

Peter Sellers covers The Beatles "She Loves You". Irish version
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Yoko Ono added to Imagine writing credits


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Hmm, I'm at odds with this one. On the BBC link they mention the Paul-John credit changes he made for his songs on Back In The USA/World 2002 live CD and Yoko threw a fit. Now it seems she's doing something similar. Also she said this is the happiest time of her life. A bit of contradiction since it seems her life was wrapped around John? Anyhow, if I'm wrong and this the correct way than I apologize.

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Yoko Ono added to Imagine writing credits

Recently, Yoko is diagnosed as having dementia.
So this would be a wonderful gift.

And there it is. Well said Toru A. I didn't know that.

Eh, she's only got so many years left and John's dead anyway. At this point I don't really care what she does or changes, especially if its non-Beatles stuff.

Might seem sacrilege, but gotta give credit where credit is due.

They explained the move by playing a clip of (John) Lennon saying Imagine "should be credited as a Lennon-Ono song.
A lot of it - the lyric and the concept - came from Yoko. But those days I was a bit more selfish, a bit more macho,
and I sort of omitted to mention her contribution. But it was right out of Grapefruit, her book.
There's a whole pile of pieces about 'Imagine this' and 'Imagine that.'"

A shame he didn't change it himself while he was still alive.

It's also a shame imo that Yoko wouldn't allow Paul to change the credits for Yesterday (along with the other tunes mentioned). Yesterday is pure McCartney, and no other Beatle even played on it. Lennon even mocked it. George and Ringo agreed to the change, yet Yoko said no!!!

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It may have been right out of her Grapefruit book and all, but it was inspired by...

By the same token, there should be a writing credit added for whoever did a certain circus poster which Lennon practically quoted verbatim.

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It may have been right out of her Grapefruit book and all, but it was inspired by...

By the same token, there should be a writing credit added for whoever did a certain circus poster which Lennon practically quoted verbatim.

The Grapefruit book claim is more tenuous than most people realise. I have the book (which was actually autographed in my presence by both John & Yoko!) and it's close to impossible to find substantive parts of the song in the book, or the book in the song.

As for the poster.... Apple have added a copyright (undated) to the version of the poster distributed with the recent Sgt Pepper release. Curious. How the <expletive> can you copyright an 1843 poster in 2017?

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I heard it on the radio today.............For sure she didn't write the tune....maybe some minor sentence of the lyrics...............

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I heard it on the radio today.............For sure she didn't write the tune....maybe some minor sentence of the lyrics...............

(This is also over in the OT Beatles thread.....)

I have the Grapefruit book. I have gone through it line by line and tried to compare it with the Imagine lyrics.

To claim that she has written any part of it is to draw a very long bow.

If she feels able to claim that she inspired John, then who are we to argue.

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I wrote Hey Bulldog; those bastards!!

Marianne Faithful on Sister Morphine is like "What the hell?"

Yet she nearly sued McCartney when he asked the songwriting credits for one of his live albums be changed to McCartney-Lennon.

I knew that was her philosophy and lyrics.

The song is pretty much the dream of those with the globalist agenda--no God, no religion. Open borders. Just people being nice and showing brotherly love and sharing everything. Communism or Socialism. No possessions. Just relying on the (innate?) goodness of mankind. No rules to live by. No standard for love and peace. Like that's really gonna work...It's a nice dream, tho.

As for me, I prefer Heaven on earth. That will include God, The Creator of the universe, running things, and wiping the force of evil off the face of the earth. We can still share the gifts God gave us for free and help one another as we are filled with the Love of God living inside of us--not to mention the Peace and Joy, too, with the influence of evil gone. ....Just my imagination running away with me....

Not surprised she helped write the song. I like the melody. Don't agree with her dream. (My opinion. Not the opinion of 99% here.) I'm glad she came forward and admitted it. I knew it was her. I could sense it.

imagine theres no cookies
and there's no cream cheese too



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You know, some people think of Yoko not as the keeper of the flame, but just as a user and opportunist -- Among them, BBC interviewer Andy Peebles, a name I associated in the early eighties as an interviewer and advocate of John & Yoko. Peebles has since changed his tune, and has published an unflattering portrait of Yoko.

Andy Peebles, 2015 -- The Dark Truth About Yoko Ono: [www.dailymail.co.uk]

Come to think of it, what Peebles is saying may be true -- I remmember watching Saturday Night Live on the first anniversary of Lennon's murder, and Yoko was using it to promote a new solo single. It started out with the sound of a gunshot, and Yoko screaming, "John!"

Also, one other of Andy Peebles' statements regarding John's feelings for Paul McCartney toward the end: [www.dailymail.co.uk]



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maybe she did



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I recall a "Lost Lennon Tapes" episode in which the engineer for the last album was interviewed, and he related how John would bring almost finished songs in to the studio, play them, and then Yoko (who is classically trained) would suggest a chord that conformed with the sequence John was playing. Anyone who is familiar with the Beatles knack of inserting a non-diatonic chord in a progression would realize how tricky this is. There's also a filmed "Imagine" session where John asks Yoko to identify what chord he's playing.