For all their faults, Generation Z have a real thing for nostalgia; highlighted in such shows as Stranger Things, etc. Many, many of this generation - younger millennials, too, obviously - love the Beatles. It was Generation Z, after all, who propelled Kate Bush to #1 on the U.K. Singles Chart; and all by streaming. The CD has died - vinyl will always be a niche - but popular music from yesteryear will forever live on. I love Spotify, by the way. It’s reinvigorated my love for music.

The CD is alive and doing well. In fact, its selling amounts have tweeked up a bit this year.

Not 1995 well but the CD is still selling. It's how I get my music. I listen to whatever on YouTube occasionally but I prefer to get the real deal. I haven't bought any vinyl lately but I'm sure I will be soon.

LOL I've certainly been doing my part: between last year and this year I've bought 50 or more releases, about 12 deluxe doubles and 4 super deluxe sets (cracks me up to see 3 versions of TATTOO YOU, GOATS HEAD SOUP and STICKY FINGERS).

I went quite a while without buying anything, had some catching up to do.

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The CD is alive and doing well. In fact, its selling amounts have tweeked up a bit this year.

Not 1995 well but the CD is still selling. It's how I get my music. I listen to whatever on YouTube occasionally but I prefer to get the real deal. I haven't bought any vinyl lately but I'm sure I will be soon.

LOL I've certainly been doing my part: between last year and this year I've bought 50 or more releases, about 12 deluxe doubles and 4 super deluxe sets (cracks me up to see 3 versions of TATTOO YOU, GOATS HEAD SOUP and STICKY FINGERS).

I went quite a while without buying anything, had some catching up to do.

Due to changing circumstances, that’s all out of the question. When I was with my parents, that was different. Good for you, though. Box-sets are great, if you have the income.



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New country music album by Ringo - 'Look Up' :



10-Jan-2025 - [www.RingoStarr.com] .

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The LP has had the most forms of any art in history:

Vinyl
Reel-to-reel
Cassette
8-track
Compact Disc
Digital Audio Tape
Digital Compact Cassette
WAV
Mini-disc

From there the MP3 and a ton of other digital file formats.

There was also DVD Audio (whatever that was called) Blu Ray Audio and for a short period of time even a few titles on USB Stick (Beatles complete set on stereo, that green apple; Rolling Stones Rolled Gold +).

I'd also argue that you could include Edison Wax Cylinders (I have one!) and certainly shellac, from which the term "Album" originated...they'd have 6-12 shellac records done up in what looked like a photo album, 1 or 2 songs per shellac record. I have a few!

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The LP has had the most forms of any art in history:

Vinyl
Reel-to-reel
Cassette
8-track
Compact Disc
Digital Audio Tape
Digital Compact Cassette
WAV
Mini-disc

From there the MP3 and a ton of other digital file formats.

There was also DVD Audio (whatever that was called) Blu Ray Audio and for a short period of time even a few titles on USB Stick (Beatles complete set on stereo, that green apple; Rolling Stones Rolled Gold +).

I'd also argue that you could include Edison Wax Cylinders (I have one!) and certainly shellac, from which the term "Album" originated...they'd have 6-12 shellac records done up in what looked like a photo album, 1 or 2 songs per shellac record. I have a few!

The DVD etc is exactly the part of "a ton of other digital file formats".

I was going strictly by the original intent of the cultural format, which was vinyl at 33 1/3 rpm, by RCA in 1931, but perfected in 1948 by Columbia Records (even though there was an earlier attempt in 1926).

As it's called, an LP record, now available in 3000 formats.

And what makes an LP an LP is the amount of songs, and the early vinyl formats held 15-23 or so minutes per side, so approximately seven or more songs at just over half an hour total and as the LP expanded into other formats, way stupid longer eventually in the 1990s, and now in the 2020s they can be 4 hours long or 10 hours long with online versions known as, ha ha, playlists.

^ on the EP vs LP discussion, I have found no clear-cut criteria that makes something an EP vs an LP. Sleep’s Dopesmoker is a one song album that is an hour long. Circle Jerks’ Group Sex is 14 songs in 17 minutes. Categorize those!

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I was going strictly by the original intent of the cultural format, which was vinyl at 33 1/3 rpm, by RCA in 1931, but perfected in 1948 by Columbia Records (even though there was an earlier attempt in 1926).

this earlier attempt your talking about are your referring to the long playing edison diamond discs or another format i'm not familiar with?

just curious



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this earlier attempt your talking about are your referring to the long playing edison diamond discs or another format i'm not familiar with?

Predecessors: "Starting in 1926, the Edison Records company experimented with issuing Edison Disc Records in long play format of 24 minutes per side" - [en.Wikipedia.org] .

First vinyl record ever: "In September 1931, RCA Victor launched the first commercially available vinyl long-playing record, marketed as 'Program-Transcription' records. These revolutionary discs were designed for playback at 33+1/3 rpm and pressed on a 30 cm diameter flexible plastic disc, with a duration of about ten minutes playing time per side" - [en.Wikipedia.org] .



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thank you irix i guess that answers my question

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^ on the EP vs LP discussion, I have found no clear-cut criteria that makes something an EP vs an LP. Sleep’s Dopesmoker is a one song album that is an hour long. Circle Jerks’ Group Sex is 14 songs in 17 minutes. Categorize those!

What about 12" singles? And I have at least one 7" single with more than one track on one of the sides... that's almost an EP!

Would a definition of 45rpm put something into the 'Single' or even 'EP' category, and an speed of 33.33333333rpm put it in the LP definition?

Cue someone who has a 7" that plays at 33.3333333rpm. :-)

Captain Corella

There are 12" albums that play at 45RPM too !

[Mark Knopfler's latest being one fairly recent example ]

Record Store Day - Black Friday 2024 - 7" Vinyl:

'I Wanna Hold Your Hand' backed with 'I Saw Her Standing There'

Beatles ’64 film now streaming on Disney+





Beatles '64 - Music from the Disney+ Documentary - [Music.Apple.com] , [open.Spotify.com] , [www.YouTube.com] .



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I went to a screening of Beatles '64 last night. It is well worth watching with plenty of previously unseen footage, shot by the Maysles brothers, not just of the band but also focussing more on the fans and how they reacted to all the Beatlemania craziness that was happening.

Are there any extras in the front row like in Scorcese's Stones movie "Shine a light ? ".

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie

This 1977 "tribute" to The Beatles was a nightmare. I remember seeing this when it was broadcast and it was unbelievably bad. Today it is still jaw-dropping, yet there are spots that had me laughing so hard that my sides ached.

Good doc. Interesting that they were all enthusiastic and wide-eyed in New York but by the time they got to Washington and the infamous British Embassy reception they were already weary. Given that, it's amazing they lasted another 2 years on the road.

All the 12" single EPs I have are 45 rpm. I don't recall ever getting a stand alone vinyl EP. I've read there are some exceptions, depending on song lengths, for an EP to be 33 1/3 rpm.

The 12" singles are either: Undercover Of The Night (extended version) side A, Feel On Baby (instrumental) side B, is 33 rpm; the One Hit 12" is 45 (side A the extended, side B the B-side Fight and the One Hit single edit).

The general code for what an EP is and an LP is apparently more like a suggestion. The time for an LP on vinyl, CD and any other digital aspect should be the same but there are probably tiny differences, maybe 2 seconds, if nothing has been altered (like the less edited Slave for the Virgin TATTOO YOU).

Then there's multiple versions. The Cult (Beggars Banquet Records 1984-1995) had two versions of the 12" single EPs for Wild Flower and Lil' Devil, single disc and double disc. CD single EPs apparently combined those into one EP (as far as I know). And at least one edition of the Lil' Devil 12" single EP was a 33 rpm.

Beatles and Stones stand alone EPs were early on - the idea of a 12" single EP probably hadn't been born yet.

12" Harlem Shuffle and One Hit are not single EPs they are 12" singles.

As far as I can tell. Neither have enough tracks to qualify as an EP!

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This 1977 "tribute" to The Beatles was a nightmare. I remember seeing this when it was broadcast and it was unbelievably bad. Today it is still jaw-dropping, yet there are spots that had me laughing so hard that my sides ached.

Thank God for The Rolling Stones.

Lucinda Williams Sings The Beatles From Abbey Road:

Don't Let Me Down / I'm Looking Through You / Can't Buy Me Love / Rain / While My Guitar Gently Weeps / Let It Be /
Yer Blues / I've Got a Feeling / I'm So Tired / Something / With a Little Help from My Friends / The Long and Winding Road



[Music.Apple.com] , [open.Spotify.com] , [www.YouTube.com]

I don't know why this bugged me so much when it first came out:





...so I watched it again.

Hmmm...I get the same feeling as the first time!

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I don't know why this bugged me so much when it first came out:





...so I watched it again.

Hmmm...I get the same feeling as the first time!

And I don't know why this [www.youtube.com] (23-Feb-76) bugged me, so I watched this [www.youtube.com] (1-May-1975) to hunt for clues.

Is imitation really the sincerest form of flattery or a polite description of copying?

Captain Corella

Hmmm...I get the same feeling as the first time!


Ya mean like all the footage of
cops are givin ya a flash-backs treacle ....



ROCKMAN

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I don't know why this bugged me so much when it first came out:





...so I watched it again.

Hmmm...I get the same feeling as the first time!

And I don't know why this [www.youtube.com] (23-Feb-76) bugged me, so I watched this [www.youtube.com] (1-May-1975) to hunt for clues.

Is imitation really the sincerest form of flattery or a polite description of copying?

Ha ha...good one. So in AC/DC's defense, they weren't the biggest band in the world at that moment, and I didn't get the feeling they were trying to copy or even imitate the Stones.

The stuff with U2, down to the police conversations...I just thought that was contrived.

Even The Stones wouldn't dare do a Rooftop Concert

AC/DC in their glorious days

BTW, Malcolm is wearing a Concert for Bangladesh Tshirt on this video

video: [youtu.be]



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Ringo Starr releases an album that’s “pure Ringo"

'Look Up’ is an album created by an iconic drummer enamored by Country music.

By Ivor Levene
January 9, 2025

[www.goldminemag.com]

Act Naturally: Ringo Starr Looks Up

Talking to Starr and producer T Bone Burnett about the former Beatle’s first country album in more than 50 years

D. Patrick Rodgers
January 9, 2025

[www.nashvillescene.com]

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Even The Stones wouldn't dare do a Rooftop Concert

Flatbed truck all the way!