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Doxa
Yes, the Stones fans are so stupid, and Hairball knows better. Some of Stones fans actually even like WANDERING SPIRIT (and even do not despise or hate Mick Jagger by principle), but of course, it is nothing compared to Paul McCartney's - the genius who can no do wrong - masterpiece albums he had provided constantly.
Funny guy, but odd agenda.
- Doxa
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Doxa
Yes, the Stones fans are so stupid, and Hairball knows better. Some of Stones fans actually even like WANDERING SPIRIT (and even do not despise or hate Mick Jagger by principle), but of course, it is nothing compared to Paul McCartney's - the genius who can no do wrong - masterpiece albums he had provided constantly.
Funny guy, but odd agenda.
- Doxa
I actually prefer Wandering Spirit to both Voodoo Lounge and Main Offender, but that's only my opinion.
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Doxa
Yes, the Stones fans are so stupid, and Hairball knows better. Some of Stones fans actually even like WANDERING SPIRIT (and even do not despise or hate Mick Jagger by principle), but of course, it is nothing compared to Paul McCartney's - the genius who can no do wrong - masterpiece albums he had provided constantly.
Funny guy, but odd agenda.
EDIT: haha, he edited his claim how weak the material in WANDERING SPIRIT is. C'mon, be honest!
- Doxa
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Hairball
Main offender is far superior to both Wandering Spirit and Voodoo Lounge combined IMO
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Hairball
I dislike much of Paul's solo material, as well as some of his Beatles material. And I don't agree with Rick Rubin's opinion regarding Paul as the greatest bass player ever. But this thread is about 'Beatles stuff',, and some people like both the Stones and the Beatles - me being one of them!
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treaclefingers
One of my favourite Beatles songs is "Don't Let Me Down"...I think it's a rarer cut that shows the Beatles had some soul.
In fact, it's one of the songs which I think is closer to a "Stones sound" (clearly why I probably like it) and I could totally see Mick singing that.
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treaclefingers
One of my favourite Beatles songs is "Don't Let Me Down"...I think it's a rarer cut that shows the Beatles had some soul.
In fact, it's one of the songs which I think is closer to a "Stones sound" (clearly why I probably like it) and I could totally see Mick singing that.
I think it's closer to John Lennon's stuff with The Plastic Ono Band than to the more lightweight Beatles. I certainly rate highly 'Cold Turkey', 'Instant Karma' and the entire John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band album.
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Hairball
Yeah doxa..you're posts are meaningless to me, and I wonder why I'm even bothering replying to the above. I need to remind myself to IGNORE!
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One of my favourite Beatles songs is "Don't Let Me Down"...I think it's a rarer cut that shows the Beatles had some soul.
In fact, it's one of the songs which I think is closer to a "Stones sound" (clearly why I probably like it) and I could totally see Mick singing that.
I think it's closer to John Lennon's stuff with The Plastic Ono Band than to the more lightweight Beatles. I certainly rate highly 'Cold Turkey', 'Instant Karma' and the entire John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band album.
I don't disagree, but will only point out that this is the direction he clearly wanted to go in, and probably why he loved/hated the Stones because they were successful doing a style of music he preferred to 'the granny sounds' that appeared on a lot of the later Beatles albums.
Ironic to be in the 'bigger' recording band yet still be musically frustrated.
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Doxa
Just thinking of the times when the Beatles call it quits, what they really had anymore to say? The Stones provided a soundtrack for the times with "Gimme Shelter", and there were so much hot things going on. I mean, "All You Need Is Love" was something spot on to catch the zeitgeist of the times in the summer of love. But what what things like "Let It Be" or "Here Comes The Sun" had to do with the day? Harmless pop music (funnily, the latter, a Harrison tune, is the second popular Beatles-related tune on Spotify, after Lennon's "Imagine". Sorry Macca.).
- Doxa
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Hairball
Excellent article published yesterday in GUITAR WORLD:
How the Beatles crafted the guitar and bass tones that forever changed the sound of rock music
By Chris Gill
published 1 day ago
We chart the evolution of the Fab Four's sound through the key tracks and the gear that made them
> BEATLES
No band has had more pages written about them than the Beatles. There are books that examine every day of the band’s history, large volumes about their recordings and books devoted entirely to their gear. Yet for all that has been written about them, there is still much mystery about the finer details, such as what exact guitars and amps they used to record specific songs.
We set out to answer that last question by closely examining a select group of songs spanning the Beatles’ entire recording history. A big part of the challenge is that a great amount of conflicting info exists, even among the experts. Even the members of the Beatles, producer George Martin and engineers like Geoff Emerick have provided conflicting accounts, and sometimes those people have contradicted themselves.
Photos taken during the recording sessions provide helpful hints, but all too often crucial details are missing, and the best anyone can do is speculate. Internet forums are frankly a hell-hole of highly opinionated alpha characters who insist they have golden ears but are usually pulling utter BS out of their golden rears.
What follows is our best attempt to determine the guitars, basses, amps and effects that the Beatles actually used. This information is not perfect and in many cases is highly speculative (such as the amp that Lennon used to record his solo on The End). However, we hope it will provide a good guideline for guitarists who want to decode the magical mystery of the iconic sounds that the Beatles’ crafted over an incredibly prolific seven-year period.
Read all about it: How the Beatles crafted the guitar and bass tones that forever changed the sound of rock music
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Doxa
Very true, R Dog, what you said about the Stones offering soon pretty convenient stuff. They would be very soon yesterday's papers, as far as trends and nailing the zeitgeit goes. But still they had, like always, a certain edge in their music. Something the Beatles never had.
You mention "Wild Horses", but the true hit of the day was "Brown Sugar" - something in controversiality and bad-assness the Beatles at their wildest dreams were not even close. The effect of "Angie" was that it was so obvious anti-thesis to anything the the Stones represented. A great one-timer (and if nothing else, a good counter example to Beatles fans to 'prove' that Mick and Keith can write beautiful, melodical songs as well, like they are showing "Helter Skelter" to prove the Beatles can 'rock' too). Despite the stunning hit "Miss You", SOME GIRLS is full of good old middle finger stuff in different forms. The ironical and intellectual self-reflection of "It's Only Rock'n'Roll" was also, among other things, an anti-thesis to anything pretentous bullshit the 60's Beatles mythologists love to write about the progressive nature of pop, reminding like what it is all about, even before the punk happened.
ABBA was the 70's reincarnation of the Beatles. Exactly the same components in success: universally stunning singing and catchy tunes (the Beatles fans always love to explain and cover that simple phenomenon with whatever funny stories, like not admitting the true color of it). Everybody loves and nobody is hurt. Nice, genius pop. No controversy. No rock and roll.
Actually when I listen to late 60's rock music - you know, way after the revolutionary Beatlemania years - I wonder who was interested listening to the Beatles any longer. If I'd been there, I wouldn't. There was so much way better and interesting music happening. I mean, what a fvck I do with some pretentous and boring 'White Album' if I can listen ELECTRIC LADYLAND or MUSIC FROM THE Pink? Or even THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO, for god's sakes. What a shit some stupid "All You Need Is love" is when there is a "A Whiter Shade of Pale" to listen to? I think the 1967-70 Beatles stuff is way too over-rated nowadays in compared to the music people were doing at the time (also to what they themselves were doing prior).
When Lennon finally get rid of that and Yoko kick the Dylan out of him, the things start happening: "Working Class Hero", "Instant Charma", "Give Peace A Chance" "Imagine", "Happy Xmas", "Jealous Guy"...
- Doxa
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Toru A
In the summer of 1978, when John and Yoko were living as hermits at the Hotel Okura in Tokyo, John handed a Japanese singer a list of records he wanted.
The singer's manager, who was an acquaintance of mine, delivered the records to their hotel room. Among them were Some Girls and Street Legal.
Those two records might have helped starting over his secular life again. Or is this my double fantasy?
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Toru A
In the summer of 1978, when John and Yoko were living as hermits at the Hotel Okura in Tokyo, John handed a Japanese singer a list of records he wanted.
The singer's manager, who was an acquaintance of mine, delivered the records to their hotel room. Among them were Some Girls and Street Legal.
Those two records might have helped starting over his secular life again. Or is this my double fantasy?
I think it shows that they were actually not living as "total hermits" - that they were still interested in the outside world, in this case John in what his contemporary musician friends were doing at the time. I wouldn't interpret it as more than it actually was.
Anyway, and in addition to my long post above in reply to Doxa, it's interesting to note that of the three songs Lennon played in his very last live performance, guesting with Elton John on November 28, 1974 at Madison Square Garden, two were actually Beatles songs, furthermore with "I Saw Her Standing There" one that originally had Paul on lead vocals (a song by “an old fiancé of mine named Paul. I’ve never sang it before”), showing imo that he had already come to terms with his Beatles past at this time.
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Hairball
For those who live in the Central New York area and are in to tribute bands...
From Syracuse.com:
Who’s better, Beatles or Rolling Stones? Concert battle coming to CNY
Beatles vs. Stones
For decades, music fans have debated: Who’s better, the Beatles or the Rolling Stones?
A tribute concert coming to Central New York hopes to settle the issue in a musical showdown. Tribute bands Abbey Road and Satisfaction -
The International Rolling Stones Show will perform “Beatles vs. Stones” at the Stanley Theatre in Utica on Friday, April 21, at 7:30 p.m.
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Doxa
ABBA was the 70's reincarnation of the Beatles. Exactly the same components in success: universally stunning singing and catchy tunes (the Beatles fans always love to explain and cover that simple phenomenon with whatever funny stories, like not admitting the true color of it). Everybody loves and nobody is hurt. Nice, genius pop. No controversy. No rock and roll.
Actually when I listen to late 60's rock music - you know, way after the revolutionary Beatlemania years - I wonder who was interested listening to the Beatles any longer. If I'd been there, I wouldn't. There was so much way better and interesting music happening. I mean, what a fvck I do with some pretentous and boring 'White Album' if I can listen ELECTRIC LADYLAND or MUSIC FROM THE Pink? Or even THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO, for god's sakes. What a shit some stupid "All You Need Is love" is when there is a "A Whiter Shade of Pale" to listen to? I think the 1967-70 Beatles stuff is way too over-rated nowadays in compared to the music people were doing at the time (also to what they themselves were doing prior).
- Doxa