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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: LazarusSmith ()
Date: November 16, 2019 00:41

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Rockman
The Stones never made anything as good as SGT PEPPERS or ABBEY ROAD.

I'd still take Satanic over Peppers anyday …
Okay Day In The Life was a clever glue tagether
but when heard recently couldnt believe how short it was..


Abbey Road up against Let It Bleed
heck kinda like comparing Mary Poppins ta Apocalypse Now …… I'll leave it at that girls

well i only have my own pink bedroom opinion of course but for what it's worth i would say i want you (she's so heavy) cometogether oh darling and the medley are hardly childrens fare

and as a sidelight: there's a diff between ultracool cynical decadence and true emotional heaviness; stones are masters of one, beatles of the other. gimme shelter is truly heavy and their undisputed (to my mind) masterpiece but much o the rest of the record - while brilliant - is posing.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 16, 2019 00:53

…. everyone's posing …. it's just some do it better than others ...



ROCKMAN

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: LazarusSmith ()
Date: November 16, 2019 01:13

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Rockman
…. everyone's posing …. it's just some do it better than others ...

mebbe

not sure

i like to think that some of us can transcend

but ive been wrong b4

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 16, 2019 01:47

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floodonthepage
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GasLightStreet
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Rockman
:RollingFreak
To me, the Beatles never made anything as good as Let It Bleed or Sticky Fingers.

The Stones never made anything as good as SGT PEPPERS or ABBEY ROAD.

The Stones and Beatles never made anything as good as LED ZEPPELIN 2 and PHYSICAL GRAFFITI.

Led Zeppelin, The Stones and Beatles never made anything as good as AC/DC/s POWERAGE and BACK IN BLACK.

AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, the Stones and Beatles never made anything as good as DARK SIDE OF THE MOON and THE WALL.



Mandarins are a small orange. Grapefruit doesn't exist in nature. Bananas, avocado, gooseberry and watermelon are related as they are all berries.

If one can't hear how great some of The Beatles' albums are... there's something wrong with them.

Good lord. I don't know where to begin with this...so many ridiculous statements. I'll tell myself it's trolling so that I don't need Advil. I'll just let it stand alone that ACDC has no place on that list of bands, effective as they've been at adding ambience to a bar room for decades.

That was the entire point.

And... you're wrong about AC/DC.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 16, 2019 01:54

i like to think that some of us can transcend

but ive been wrong b4.....



Heck Laz … every girl loves
posing other wise there'd be no porn ….



ROCKMAN

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: November 16, 2019 04:34

Just thought of this after seeing the Abbey Road vs. Let it Bleed post....

I've sometimes ranked Here Comes the Sun as my favorite Beatles tune ever (though that changes quite often),
while I almost always rank Gimme Shelter as my favorite Stones tune of all time.

Sort of polar opposites lyric-wise:

Little darling, I feel that ice is slowly melting
Little darling, it seems like years since it's been clear

vs.

Oh... a storm is threat'ning, My very life today
If I don't get some shelter, Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away

__________________________________________________

Little darling, the smiles returning to the faces
Little darling, it seems like years since it's been here

vs.

Ooh, see the fire is sweepin' our very street today
Burns like a red coal carpet, mad bull lost its way

____________________________________________________

Here comes the sun
Here comes the sun, and I say, It's all right

vs.

Rape, murder!
It's just a shot away, It's just a shot away

_____________________________________________________

Put them together, and we might have the greatest tune ever written in the entire universe!

Sun, sun, sun, here it comes, Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
War, children, it's just a shot away, It's just a shot away
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes, Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
War, children, it's just a shot away, It's just a shot away

smiling smiley

Would be nice to hear a mashup of these two tunes...Gimme Sun or Here Comes the Shelter...Beatles and Stones - love 'em both!




As a bonus twist, add Dylan to the mix and we'd have Here Comes the Shelter from the Storm.

_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Svartmer ()
Date: November 16, 2019 10:00

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Rockman
i like to think that some of us can transcend

but ive been wrong b4.....



Heck Laz … every girl loves
posing other wise there'd be no porn ….

Wow,what a statement, welcome to the 21st century.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: November 16, 2019 14:25

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Hairball
Just thought of this after seeing the Abbey Road vs. Let it Bleed post....

I've sometimes ranked Here Comes the Sun as my favorite Beatles tune ever (though that changes quite often),
while I almost always rank Gimme Shelter as my favorite Stones tune of all time.

Sort of polar opposites lyric-wise:

Little darling, I feel that ice is slowly melting
Little darling, it seems like years since it's been clear

vs.

Oh... a storm is threat'ning, My very life today
If I don't get some shelter, Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away

__________________________________________________

Little darling, the smiles returning to the faces
Little darling, it seems like years since it's been here

vs.

Ooh, see the fire is sweepin' our very street today
Burns like a red coal carpet, mad bull lost its way

____________________________________________________

Here comes the sun
Here comes the sun, and I say, It's all right

vs.

Rape, murder!
It's just a shot away, It's just a shot away

_____________________________________________________

Put them together, and we might have the greatest tune ever written in the entire universe!

Sun, sun, sun, here it comes, Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
War, children, it's just a shot away, It's just a shot away
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes, Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
War, children, it's just a shot away, It's just a shot away

smiling smiley

Would be nice to hear a mashup of these two tunes...Gimme Sun or Here Comes the Shelter...Beatles and Stones - love 'em both!




As a bonus twist, add Dylan to the mix and we'd have Here Comes the Shelter from the Storm.

Very romantic Hairball!
You can not imagine how close your are to what eventually bound the Beatles and The Rolling Stones together even before both bands existed!
It's too amazing for words. And "Charles" carries the secret, but my lips are sealed.
smileys with beer

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: floodonthepage ()
Date: November 18, 2019 19:05

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GasLightStreet
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floodonthepage
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GasLightStreet
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Rockman
:RollingFreak
To me, the Beatles never made anything as good as Let It Bleed or Sticky Fingers.

The Stones never made anything as good as SGT PEPPERS or ABBEY ROAD.

The Stones and Beatles never made anything as good as LED ZEPPELIN 2 and PHYSICAL GRAFFITI.

Led Zeppelin, The Stones and Beatles never made anything as good as AC/DC/s POWERAGE and BACK IN BLACK.

AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, the Stones and Beatles never made anything as good as DARK SIDE OF THE MOON and THE WALL.



Mandarins are a small orange. Grapefruit doesn't exist in nature. Bananas, avocado, gooseberry and watermelon are related as they are all berries.

If one can't hear how great some of The Beatles' albums are... there's something wrong with them.

Good lord. I don't know where to begin with this...so many ridiculous statements. I'll tell myself it's trolling so that I don't need Advil. I'll just let it stand alone that ACDC has no place on that list of bands, effective as they've been at adding ambience to a bar room for decades.

That was the entire point.

And... you're wrong about AC/DC.

Ridiculous statements are "the entire point"? Indeed it seems that way.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Mongoose ()
Date: December 1, 2019 16:52

TOYS FOR TOTS event here in Atlanta tonight, Sunday, December 1st!

Each year, my band, the Amazing Mongooses, plays an all BEATLES show for Toys for Tots. Admission is one unwrapped toy per person!

If you are in or near the Atlanta area, the show is at the Tin Roof Cantina, on Briarcliff Road, and starts at 6 pm!

We're playing three sets of Beatles, including the set list of their very first show in the USA, February, 1964, Washington, D.C.

Come out, drop off a toy, have some fajitas and your beverage of choice, and come sing along with about 40 Beatles songs! All you need is love!!

Amazing Mongooses, "Helter Skelter," Java Monkey, Decatur, GA (2013)
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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: December 1, 2019 18:30

Mongoose, ya got to give me a heads up on this stuff!

sbking@wildblue.net

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Mongoose ()
Date: December 1, 2019 20:50

Sorry about that!

You are now officially on our Amazing Mongooses e-mail list!!

Hey, come on up! First set is going to be the Washington 64 tunes, but we have a total of 44 songs ready to go. Hey, ya gotta eat dinner tonight, anyway, right? And the 6:00 - 9:00 time frame is pretty time friendly for not staying out too late!

www.tinroofcantina.com

smileys with beer

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: December 6, 2019 20:54

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Elmo Lewis
Cheap Trick (a great band) pretty much owes their whole career to the Beatles. That is not meant as a putdown.

Cover version of Lennon's Gimme Some Truth (originally released on Record Store Day)from their upcoming new album





Nothing really groundbreaking, but seems an appropriate time to revisit this tune.

_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: December 6, 2019 21:36

Appropriate time is the perfect way to describe it. Good on Cheap Trick. Been a fan since '78.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: LazarusSmith ()
Date: December 10, 2019 20:52

****book recommendation****

geoff emerick -- HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE: my life recording the music of the beatles

this is soooooo good; very light, "inside," informative look at the fab four in the recording studio from the self-effacing sound engineer who was there from the beginning.

i'm really enjoying it!

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: December 11, 2019 00:10

The Beatles playing to an audience of 18 people after their concert was not publicized in Aldershot, England, December 9, 1961.


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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: roryg ()
Date: December 11, 2019 00:12


Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: December 11, 2019 02:57

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LazarusSmith
****book recommendation****

geoff emerick -- HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE: my life recording the music of the beatles

this is soooooo good; very light, "inside," informative look at the fab four in the recording studio from the self-effacing sound engineer who was there from the beginning.

i'm really enjoying it!
Geoff is amazing. Not surprised. And he's one of the few people in the Beatles camp I'd actually want to hear from.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: stone66 ()
Date: December 11, 2019 04:57

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RollingFreak
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LazarusSmith
****book recommendation****

geoff emerick -- HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE: my life recording the music of the beatles

this is soooooo good; very light, "inside," informative look at the fab four in the recording studio from the self-effacing sound engineer who was there from the beginning.

i'm really enjoying it!
Geoff is amazing. Not surprised. And he's one of the few people in the Beatles camp I'd actually want to hear from.

Well worth reading.

However, some fans have taken exception at the author's digs at George Harrison, who frequently dismisses his guitar skills as "ham-fisted"; according to Geoff, there were several occasions where it appears George just wasn't up to the task of getting guitar parts right during sessions, and that many additional takes of a track would be required as a result. One gets the impression from such remarks that he thought of Harrison as a the weak link in the group; though he improved later on, these accounts show that Harrison was frequently struggling, especially in those early studio sessions.

On the other hand, he really puts you right there in the moment with vivid impressions; like when he conveys the hard work that went into those early sessions, especially by how lethal Ringo was in those early days, how hard he would hit the drums during take after take, so much so that by the end of the night there would be a circle of wood chips on the carpet around Ringo's kit from all the sticks he would break.

Oh, and the accounts of when Yoko first began hanging out in the recording studio and the reactions of the other Beatles... There was the time when Yoko was living and sleeping in the studio with a mattress all set up on the studio floor, and she spots a box of crackers atop a cupboard in one corner, so she saunters over and helps herself. The crackers belonged to George Harrison, who's watching from the control room as Yoko begins opening the box, and as she takes a bite of the first cracker, from the control room Harrison snarls, "That bitch!"

Priceless!


Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: December 11, 2019 05:30

Yoko was probably starving.....
And they were probably rice crackers ….. How cruel



ROCKMAN

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: December 11, 2019 15:16

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Rockman
Yoko was probably starving.....
And they were probably rice crackers ….. How cruel

Oh dear, not much peace and love around in the studio!

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: LazarusSmith ()
Date: December 18, 2019 00:00

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stone66
However, some fans have taken exception at the author's digs at George Harrison, who frequently dismisses his guitar skills as "ham-fisted"; according to Geoff, there were several occasions where it appears George just wasn't up to the task of getting guitar parts right during sessions, and that many additional takes of a track would be required as a result. One gets the impression from such remarks that he thought of Harrison as a the weak link in the group; though he improved later on, these accounts show that Harrison was frequently struggling, especially in those early studio sessions.

I'm halfway through now -- about in the middle of the recording of SGT PEPPER and it is remarkable how much George-bashing there has been so far. I wonder what's behind that and if there is an element of truth there? Clearly, George was a master songwriter in his own right ... perhaps he just kinda moped around underappreciated and steamrollered by John and Paul while he was in The Beatles? Or maybe his talent took a bit longer to flower? In any event, Emerick doesn't feel like a jerk at all so I wonder at this dissing of George.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: December 18, 2019 00:33

Quote
Rockman
i like to think that some of us can transcend

but ive been wrong b4.....



Heck Laz … every girl loves
posing other wise there'd be no porn ….

...and I thought it was guys with money to burn.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: December 18, 2019 01:12

….. heck no treacle …. it's just mainly posing …



ROCKMAN

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: December 24, 2019 05:48

John Lennon selfie during The Beatles final live concert at Candlestick Park, 1966


Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: ThePaleRider ()
Date: December 26, 2019 15:07

Nice interview clip with moderator of the Sirius Beatles Channel, Peter Asher...

Peter Asher MSNBC Interviw Part 2

The first part talks more about Ashers's career as producer for Linda Rondstadt, etcc

Peter Asher MSNBC Interview Part 1



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-12-26 15:33 by ThePaleRider.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: bob r ()
Date: December 26, 2019 22:47

This Christmas just spending some time looking at and listening to the fantastic re-released Beatles box sets of Sgt Pepper / The White Album and the new Abbey Road, and I am amazed at the care that went into these over the last couple years. The remixed albums sound incredible, the bonus unreleased tracks and alternate takes are truly a bonus, the books that are included are filled with terrific notes and photos that haven't been seen before in many instances.
You have to hand it to the Beatles: you always got your moneys worth. They never skimped on quality, and still don't to this day.

Looking forward to 2002 when the 50th anniversary of Let it Be comes round !

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: LazarusSmith ()
Date: December 26, 2019 23:06

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bob r
This Christmas just spending some time looking at and listening to the fantastic re-released Beatles box sets of Sgt Pepper / The White Album and the new Abbey Road, and I am amazed at the care that went into these over the last couple years. The remixed albums sound incredible, the bonus unreleased tracks and alternate takes are truly a bonus, the books that are included are filled with terrific notes and photos that haven't been seen before in many instances.
You have to hand it to the Beatles: you always got your moneys worth. They never skimped on quality, and still don't to this day.

Looking forward to 2002 when the 50th anniversary of Let it Be comes round !

Agreed — stellar releases that imho made possible an even deeper understanding and appreciation of those brilliant records.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: LazarusSmith ()
Date: December 27, 2019 23:14

once again apologies if this has been discussed before BUT OMYGOD this is such a good book!

Ian MacDonald -- Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties

mini essays on the recording and significance -- musically and otherwise -- of every Beatles song from '62-'70. exhaustive, brilliant, fun, sometimes a bit too tech-y for me (as a non-musician), but what a delightful resource!

kinda reminds me a bit of nicholas pegg's bowie book but it's much more even than that ...

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: December 28, 2019 12:13

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bob r
This Christmas just spending some time looking at and listening to the fantastic re-released Beatles box sets of Sgt Pepper / The White Album and the new Abbey Road, and I am amazed at the care that went into these over the last couple years. The remixed albums sound incredible, the bonus unreleased tracks and alternate takes are truly a bonus, the books that are included are filled with terrific notes and photos that haven't been seen before in many instances.
You have to hand it to the Beatles: you always got your moneys worth. They never skimped on quality, and still don't to this day.

Looking forward to 2002 when the 50th anniversary of Let it Be comes round !

Typo: 2020?

As well as the (reasonably safe) assumption that Giles will do a similar job on 'Let it Be', there's the prospect of the remade film under the direction of Peter Jackson that's in the works. Plus, I jolly well hope, the entire and uncut rooftop concert!

--
Captain Corella
60 Years a Fan

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