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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

*and I very well might be grumpy. Think I need to play 'Nothing on Me' up real loud.

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

*and I very well might be grumpy. Think I need to play 'Nothing on Me' up real loud.

Do that!

- Doxa

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

Well, Doxa thinks he's just having fun. But what he's done is to imagine this whole new class of fans (I am deeply ashamed to confess that I was the originator of the word Keithette years ago, but the new definition is Doxa's) - and now nobody can say anything good about Crosseyed Heart without being assumed to belong to this supposed crowd of rabid Mick-haters.

(sound effect of Donald Duck getting very, VERY exasperated...)

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

Well, Doxa thinks he's just having fun. But what he's done is to imagine this whole new class of fans (I am deeply ashamed to confess that I was the originator of the word Keithette years ago, but the new definition is Doxa's) - and now nobody can say anything good about Crosseyed Heart without being assumed to belong to this supposed crowd of rabid Mick-haters.

(sound effect of Donald Duck getting very, VERY exasperated...)

Dear Green Lady, don't despair. We'll all be happily humming Nothing On Me, while Doxa is condemmed to sing To Dream the Impossible Dream for all eternity...

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

Well, Doxa thinks he's just having fun. But what he's done is to imagine this whole new class of fans (I am deeply ashamed to confess that I was the originator of the word Keithette years ago, but the new definition is Doxa's) - and now nobody can say anything good about Crosseyed Heart without being assumed to belong to this supposed crowd of rabid Mick-haters.

(sound effect of Donald Duck getting very, VERY exasperated...)

Oh well, suspicious as it seems, it's just an illusion.

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger?
Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades.
I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

Well, Doxa thinks he's just having fun. But what he's done is to imagine this whole new class of fans
(I am deeply ashamed to confess that I was the originator of the word Keithette years ago,
but the new definition is Doxa's) - and now nobody can say anything good about Crosseyed Heart
without being assumed to belong to this supposed crowd of rabid Mick-haters.

(sound effect of Donald Duck getting very, VERY exasperated...)

Dear Green Lady, don't despair. We'll all be happily humming Nothing On Me, while Doxa is condemned to sing
To Dream the Impossible Dream for all eternity...

As an alternative, perhaps Doxa could just drop this form of 'fun' that's well past its best-by date.

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

Well, Doxa thinks he's just having fun. But what he's done is to imagine this whole new class of fans (I am deeply ashamed to confess that I was the originator of the word Keithette years ago, but the new definition is Doxa's) - and now nobody can say anything good about Crosseyed Heart without being assumed to belong to this supposed crowd of rabid Mick-haters.

(sound effect of Donald Duck getting very, VERY exasperated...)

Oh well, suspicious as it seems, it's just an illusion.

Yeah, but not the one you're thinking of!

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

Well, Doxa thinks he's just having fun. But what he's done is to imagine this whole new class of fans (I am deeply ashamed to confess that I was the originator of the word Keithette years ago, but the new definition is Doxa's) - and now nobody can say anything good about Crosseyed Heart without being assumed to belong to this supposed crowd of rabid Mick-haters.

(sound effect of Donald Duck getting very, VERY exasperated...)

Oh well, suspicious as it seems, it's just an illusion.

Yeah, but not the one you're thinking of!

Maybe Irene can decide if there's any Substantial Damage here.
But then again she can be nothing but Trouble, and might be suffering from Amnesia...

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

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I'm sorry, but I resent being labeled a 'Keithette' because I love Crosseyed Heart and therefore blah, blah, blah against Jagger? Can we stop this nonsense? It's narrow minded.

There are intelligent, thoughtful, meaningful posts analyzing KR's first LP out in a few decades. I'd like to think we all got wiser in that time span. I know Keith did- just give a listen.

I agree. I think Doxa's just having fun though.

Well, Doxa thinks he's just having fun. But what he's done is to imagine this whole new class of fans (I am deeply ashamed to confess that I was the originator of the word Keithette years ago, but the new definition is Doxa's) - and now nobody can say anything good about Crosseyed Heart without being assumed to belong to this supposed crowd of rabid Mick-haters.

(sound effect of Donald Duck getting very, VERY exasperated...)

Oh well, suspicious as it seems, it's just an illusion.

Yeah, but not the one you're thinking of!

Maybe Irene can decide if there's any Substantial Damage here.
But then again she can be nothing but Trouble, and might be suffering from Amnesia...

You're breaking my heart!

A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

This is getting close to Desert Island territory. Listen all "wigged out". MEZ

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

which tracks were your favorites?

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

which tracks were your favorites?

Damn...ok you got me...I don't really like any of them enough to remember the titles. I think the second song was good. Rubbed Blind was nice...a song about 'going it solo'?

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

which tracks were your favorites?

Damn...ok you got me...I don't really like any of them enough to remember the titles. I think the second song was good. Rubbed Blind was nice...a song about 'going it solo'?

i thought it was about the "a bigger bang" sessions....

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

which tracks were your favorites?

Damn...ok you got me...I don't really like any of them enough to remember the titles. I think the second song was good. Rubbed Blind was nice...a song about 'going it solo'?

i thought it was about the "a bigger bang" sessions....

your crossing a line now. at least on topic if we're talking about crosseyed heart.

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

Been waiting for your review of the record, glad you finally got a listen. I suggest giving it a few more listens under different states of mind. I seem to have found one, somewhere between the second and third beer where everything just makes perfect sense. Not working too well for me in the morning yet though.

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

Been waiting for your review of the record, glad you finally got a listen. I suggest giving it a few more listens under different states of mind. I seem to have found one, somewhere between the second and third beer where everything just makes perfect sense. Not working too well for me in the morning yet though.

it wasn't a proper listen...kept getting interrupted. I'll give it another try tomorrow

it wasn't a proper listen...kept getting interrupted.

Take it home and relax .. it's way too hard trying to listen in a knock-shop esp with that red light shinin' thru the venetians ...hhhaaa



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Since I'm not a sucker for Keith-ballads I would rate CH third in the Keith Catalogue. After TIC and MO, in that order.

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

How many times did you listen to it? Give it some time.

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He is just joking. He has played the album to death already and loves every bit of it.

Or someone highjacked his IORR account

I don't think Treaclefingers is one to joke around....

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

How many times did you listen to it? Give it some time.

But if I've already pre-judged that I'm only going to find this is an average album before I've actually listened to it, what good is it going to do listening to it several times?

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

How many times did you listen to it? Give it some time.

But if I've already pre-judged that I'm only going to find this is an average album before I've actually listened to it, what good is it going to do listening to it several times?

That's what I figured. Some people find it hard to be objective once they are exposed to reviews, either good or bad...or for any number of reasons, they are in the mind set already to dislike it. Might as well put it away for a while and maybe try again when the spirit moves you and you think you can approach it with a fresh perspective.

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

How many times did you listen to it? Give it some time.

But if I've already pre-judged that I'm only going to find this is an average album before I've actually listened to it, what good is it going to do listening to it several times?

Because then you can judge it. If you pre-judged it, that means you didn't judge it.

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

How many times did you listen to it? Give it some time.

But if I've already pre-judged that I'm only going to find this is an average album before I've actually listened to it, what good is it going to do listening to it several times?

Because then you can judge it. If you pre-judged it, that means you didn't judge it.

Not true. If I've 'pre-ordered' something off Amazon, I have in effect ordered it, it just isn't available yet for distribution.

I hate nailing you on these all the time skippy, but you leave yourself wide open.

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

How many times did you listen to it? Give it some time.

But if I've already pre-judged that I'm only going to find this is an average album before I've actually listened to it, what good is it going to do listening to it several times?

That's what I figured. Some people find it hard to be objective once they are exposed to reviews, either good or bad...or for any number of reasons, they are in the mind set already to dislike it. Might as well put it away for a while and maybe try again when the spirit moves you and you think you can approach it with a fresh perspective.

That's a good idea. In a few years, I can go back to it and it will be like an entirely new album I find of average quality!

You nailed it, Doxa.

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A couple of good tracks on an average album.

15 songs should mean you have a lot to say.

Please oh please we need a stones album.

How many times did you listen to it? Give it some time.

But if I've already pre-judged that I'm only going to find this is an average album before I've actually listened to it, what good is it going to do listening to it several times?

That's what I figured. Some people find it hard to be objective once they are exposed to reviews, either good or bad...or for any number of reasons, they are in the mind set already to dislike it. Might as well put it away for a while and maybe try again when the spirit moves you and you think you can approach it with a fresh perspective.

That's a good idea. In a few years, I can go back to it and it will be like an entirely new album I find of average quality!

Well, it is a good idea. In regards to CROSSEYED HEART I am in that state at the moment that I have listened it enough, judged it enough, and it doesn't offer me¨anything anymore to change my judgment no matter how much I listen to it. So I stopped listening to it. Will it be several weeks, months or yaers I will pick it up again and listen it with "fresh perspective", I don't know. Probably then I might reconsider its value (and see more clearly how it rates in regards to his and Stones' past achievements). But that's how it is with almost any record.

Contrary to many people here, my reception of the album has been rather different. My initial reaction was "Wow! Never I thought Keith could come up again with something so fresh and good!". It was a pleasent surprise. The songs sounded so mature, so genuine, so relaxed, so independent (of The Stones), and what is best: different compared to his other solo albums. I especially welcomed the slow song/ballad section - lots of nice little melody ideas, Keith singing from his heart, and all that. Finally getting that all out of his system. Probably I had so low expectations and I have waited for so long a new Rolling Stones-related item, that it was easy to charm me.

Unfortunately that first impression didn't last too long. I hear people here saying that the album or this or that song is "growing on me", but for me it goes the other way round: what first sounded so interesting and promising and fresh started little by little sound a bit too obvious, cliche-like and thin - there wasn't the depthness to excite curious imagination to find hidden treasures - to really capture one's mind like some real masterpieces do. I find the album very "easy-listening" - which is to say: don't listen too deeply, too seriously - just enjoy the nice surface here and then and keep it that way. The music just can't stand closer attention (or repeated listenings) to keep its charm. This is especially true in regards to the ballad section I first liked so much - now I feel like that I really don't need to hear any new Keith Richards ballad ever again. An overdose. And that country ballad is a walking cliche (but that old school Stonesy piece "Heartstopper" is a real gem as some others).

In that sense - the charm fades away rather quickly - I don't find the album (at the moment) much different from the recent (last 25/30 yaers or so) Stones albums like many people here seem to do. Probably it is better than, say, A BIGGER BANG but that doesn't really ask much - both Mick and Keith have managed to make more exciting solo albums on their own than their co-worked previous or upcoming Stones efforts.

- Doxa



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