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Some people here are giving too much credibility to this Westerberg person. Keith has too much class to borrow a title from him. In reality, he stole the title from "Cockeyed Optimist" in Roger and Hammerstein's "South Pacific".

Never said or even implied that Keith stole it. Just a coincidence, most likely.

Really look forward for the album.

I know it is too soon but talking about some potential concerts...where do you think they could be? USA? Europe, specially in the UK?

Good question about Drayton. What did he and Jordan fall out over?

I wonder who the primary bass player is on this album?

If Keith does do some gigs, I'd love to see Joey Spampinato join. I thought he was great on the Chuck Berry project and then again on Could Have Stood You Up.

Tony Scherr also sounded great on the Aaron Neville album that Keith produced so maybe he would get a shot.

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Good question about Drayton. What did he and Jordan fall out over?

I wonder who the primary bass player is on this album?

I'm guessing Keith and Steve handle the bulk of it.

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Really look forward for the album.

I know it is too soon but talking about some potential concerts...where do you think they could be? USA? Europe, specially in the UK?

I would love to know Garbie.
its likely to be London, New York knowing Keith.

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Good question about Drayton. What did he and Jordan fall out over?

According to my source it was over a B7.

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Good question about Drayton. What did he and Jordan fall out over?

According to my source it was over a B7.

Hmm. B7 - rare chord. Mick Taylor taught Mick & Keith 7 chords.

I know someone who was there when it happened. It was a C7 chord. Mick Taylor put Keith's pinky on the Bb and there it was. Keith was astonished and said 'did you invent this?' and Mick Taylor said no. I think the whole jealousy thing started right there.

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I know someone who was there when it happened. It was a C7 chord. Mick Taylor put Keith's pinky on the Bb and there it was. Keith was astonished and said 'did you invent this?' and Mick Taylor said no. I think the whole jealousy thing started right there.

Wait. You're still persisting with this shtick?

Not sure if all of the track names have been released, but I hope that "You Got it Made" ends up on this album.

Some lyrics in song "Crosseyed Optimist" from play & film South Pacific:

"I have heard people rant and rave and bellow that we're done and we might as well be dead...But I'm a cockeyed optimist..."

"I could say life is just a bowl of Jello...But I'm stuck...with a thing called hope, and I can't get it out of my heart, not this heart."

"Cross eyed Heart" can have a double meaning. It may have a religious connotation.

does anyone know when the deluxe set is scheduled for release? sometime in 2017? will mick taylor play on it?

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Not sure if all of the track names have been released, but I hope that "You Got it Made" ends up on this album.

I agree...YGIM is a great outtake

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Good question about Drayton. What did he and Jordan fall out over?

According to my source it was over a B7.

Hmm. B7 - rare chord. Mick Taylor taught Mick & Keith 7 chords.

There is a 7 chord in Lady Jane. (And Mick even sings the 7th note).

Anyway, looking forward - very much - to his third solo-album.
I am still enjoying his previous two albums very much.
If he goes touring, I think I'd be looking forward to that even more than if the Stones would come to town (although it's a close call).

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Apparently Drayton and Jordan had a falling out. Seems like they won't play together.

First I've ever heard of such a thing.

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Apparently Drayton and Jordan had a falling out. Seems like they won't play together.

First I've ever heard of such a thing.

Re: X pensive winos band line up?

Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()

Date: March 14, 2005 18:49


Jerome Smith subbed for Charley Drayton as the bassist for the 1993 North American tour. Drayton's last gig with The Winos was the New Year's Eve show in New York in 1992. The late Jerome Smith was the bassist for KC and the Sunshine Band and played on early sessions for Mick's Wandering Spirit CD (he receives an acknowledgement, but isn't on any of the released tracks). Its been rumored that a disagreement over financial compensation was at the heart of Drayton's departure. Bill German claimed he had another commitment before the North American dates were scheduled.


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A 2004 post : "I've talked to Drayton about why he left the band. Drayton quit the Wino's mid Main Offender Tour because of problems he was having with one of the band members. Specifically Steve Jordan. They were long time friends but had a real falling out and still do not talk to this day. Charley does keep in contact with Keith and Ivan Neville. As does Steve, who has performed live with Keith on quite a few occassions in the past year"

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Since you're pulling out one of my old posts, I'll note I was mistaken on which Jerome Smith was with the Winos. The one who subbed for Drayton and played with Mick was not the late Sunshine Band bassist.

At the time, I had asked someone who would know if it was true Drayton quit over an unpleasant conversation at Keith's 49th birthday and 9th wedding anniversary party in 1992. Drayton had asked about replacing Wyman in the Stones and Keith allegedly told him he wouldn't be a good fit. When I asked if that was why he wasn't on the 1993 dates, I was told it was a financial disagreement. He had another offer and wanted a better deal and didn't get it. I don't know anything about a falling out with Steve Jordan, but it's certainly possible.

That said, take a look at the RocksOff link and read Westerberg's remarks about the state of the union prior to the LICKS tour:

"[Keith]'s there. He's in New York writing songs - he's there with Charley Drayton writing songs. And Michael Blande is good friends with Charley Drayton and I play with Charley Drayton and he's mad at Mick for doing the movie and the Lenny Kravitz thing - he's not going to do a record. He's going to do one last record and then the band is going to be over. And then there's this whole thing with Ron Wood - he's dying. He's concerned."

We all know one day it really will be the last time and like everyone of us every year, every day is closer to our expiration date, but man, the death watch has been going for so long even from people close to the source.



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As for bass players, when he was working with Fraboni and George Receli, Keith was using Paul Nowinski, Larry Taylor, and Nikki Parrot on bass. This was 2000 and 2001. As far as I was aware, the only time he saw Drayton was when Keith and Darryl went along to an Ivan Neville session.

So far as I know the current album has been worked on intermittently over the last five years with Larry Taylor and Neil Jason involved as bass players. Not sure if anyone else has come and gone. It's possible Willie Weeks was involved at some point, but I don't have confirmation of that. I know he's jammed with Keith in recent years, but I don't know if any of it was serious.

Many thanks Rocky

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"[Keith]'s... mad at Mick for doing the movie and the Lenny Kravitz thing - he's not going to do a record. He's going to do one last record and then the band is going to be over. And then there's this whole thing with Ron Wood - he's dying. He's concerned."

I vaguely recall the thing with Drayton now that that bit about Jerome Smith was mentioned.

But that bit I quoted... what!!!!??? That's absurd! The band's going to be over? Which band? Winos or Stones? First it's he's not going to do a record... then it's he's going to do one last record... and then the band is going to be over.

Huh?

And the bit about Ronnie dying... I almost laughed when I read that.

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"[Keith]'s... mad at Mick for doing the movie and the Lenny Kravitz thing - he's not going to do a record. He's going to do one last record and then the band is going to be over. And then there's this whole thing with Ron Wood - he's dying. He's concerned."

And the bit about Ronnie dying... I almost laughed when I read that.

Don't get why that's funny. He was a total train-wreck for a lot of years with freebase and alcohol. I'm quite sure it must have seemed to those close to him that death was imminent. Even compared to Keith.

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"[Keith]'s... mad at Mick for doing the movie and the Lenny Kravitz thing - he's not going to do a record. He's going to do one last record and then the band is going to be over. And then there's this whole thing with Ron Wood - he's dying. He's concerned."

I vaguely recall the thing with Drayton now that that bit about Jerome Smith was mentioned.

But that bit I quoted... what!!!!??? That's absurd! The band's going to be over? Which band? Winos or Stones? First it's he's not going to do a record... then it's he's going to do one last record... and then the band is going to be over.

Huh?

And the bit about Ronnie dying... I almost laughed when I read that.

it sounds completely credible.

people have thought the stones were falling apart for years, ever since brian was getting so ill.

it's extremely rare to abuse oneself as much as they have, and survive to be this age, much less in any condition to play music on stage coherently.

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"[Keith]'s... mad at Mick for doing the movie and the Lenny Kravitz thing - he's not going to do a record. He's going to do one last record and then the band is going to be over. And then there's this whole thing with Ron Wood - he's dying. He's concerned."

I vaguely recall the thing with Drayton now that that bit about Jerome Smith was mentioned.

But that bit I quoted... what!!!!??? That's absurd! The band's going to be over? Which band? Winos or Stones? First it's he's not going to do a record... then it's he's going to do one last record... and then the band is going to be over.

Huh?

And the bit about Ronnie dying... I almost laughed when I read that.

it sounds completely credible.

people have thought the stones were falling apart for years, ever since brian was getting so ill.

it's extremely rare to abuse oneself as much as they have, and survive to be this age, much less in any condition to play music on stage coherently.

I remember an article in the national papers around 2004. Ronnie claimed doctors told him he had early stage Emphysema. He said he was told he had to give up smoking.
Well he never did give up and he is fit as a fiddle. Go figure

Just found link to the article

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It sounds like there is a mix of rock, country, raggae and blues on the new Keith CD.

Maybe "Crosseyed Heart" means that Keith is in love with rock and defined his musical legacy as such, but also loves those other forms of music as much?

i listened to talk is cheap for the first time in a while.
damn, it's good.
keith knows how to put together a band.
i'm more excited than ever to hear the single in a few days!!!
hope he does at least one show on the west coast.

I don't know where on this site to post this question: Does anyone know which cities the Stones EXHIBITIONISM exhibit will travel to after it leaves London in Sept. 2016? Thanks.

Sorry if this isn't the place to ask that question but I couldn't find a thread that seemed better suited.

I DO look forward to Keith's solo album.

Jesse,

Try the link on the first page of this thread...

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I don't know where on this site to post this question: Does anyone know which cities the Stones EXHIBITIONISM exhibit will travel to after it leaves London in Sept. 2016? Thanks.

Sorry if this isn't the place to ask that question but I couldn't find a thread that seemed better suited.

I DO look forward to Keith's solo album.

did you consider posting to the thread about exhibitionism?

if you couldn't find it, google IORR Exhibitionism and it is the first result.

google can be found at www.google.com