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it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Shezeboss ()
Date: April 26, 2005 02:10

Most of us are able to do that. Without the SONG, it's not so easy nor interesting. Isn't it Mick taylor ?
(whom work was good during 5 years job.) THANK'S to MICK AND KEITH. amen !!

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Limbostone ()
Date: April 26, 2005 02:18

Most of us are able to do that. Without the SONG, it's not so easy nor interesting. Isn't it Ron Wood?
(whom work was good during 30 years job.) THANK'S to MICK AND KEITH. amen !!

Most of us are able to do that. Without the SONG, it's not so easy nor interesting. Isn't it Charlie Watts?
(whom work was good during 40 years job.) THANK'S to MICK AND KEITH. amen !!

Most of us are able to do that. Without the SONG, it's not so easy nor interesting. Isn't it Bill Wyman?
(whom work was good during 30 years job.) THANK'S to MICK AND KEITH. amen !!

Most of us are able to do that. Without the SONG, it's not so easy nor interesting. Isn't it Brian Jones?
(whom work was good during 7 years job.) THANK'S to MICK AND KEITH. amen !!

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: April 26, 2005 02:29

Most of us are able to do that. Without the SONG, it's not so easy nor interesting. Isn't it Darryl Jones?
(whom work was good during 11 years job.) THANK'S to MICK AND KEITH. amen !!

Most of us are able to do that. Without the SONG, it's not so easy nor interesting. Isn't it Chuckie?
(whom work was good during ? years job.) THANK'S to MICK AND KEITH. amen !!

(sorry) grinning smiley

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: roby ()
Date: April 26, 2005 10:15

it's easy to make a poor solo on a good song. Isn'it Ronnie ?

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: April 26, 2005 11:38

Its easy to pick on Ronnie at a Stones-board with many Taylor-nostalgics on it, isnt it roby?

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: roby ()
Date: April 26, 2005 11:45

For sure lol

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: April 26, 2005 14:37

Still, Wood, the clown, the joker, the addict is the one we got in our little worshipped group we all long for to see & hear. Hope he manage what he´s going through. I have heard many very well informed har core fans last week, and they all say Ron is in a bad shape since his wife´s 50th birthday. Thus I dont believe that the clinic stay on Ireland is only routine... But sure it would be a hell of a goosebumper to see Taylor make some nights with the old cats... And together RW-MT, while Keefster´s singin´& Jagger plays the harmonica, maybe in Black Limousine; Some Girls; MR; Doo Doo Doo; Star Star & some Chuckster covers with Mickey again at thre mike.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: MCDDTLC ()
Date: April 26, 2005 17:46

baboon - What about pulling out SWAY or Jivin Sister Fanny!!!

Jagger could finally sing: Time Wait's For No One!!!!!

Tell me that DVD wouldn't SELL!!!!!!!!! MLC

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: April 26, 2005 18:25

"It's easy to make a magic solo on a good song?" "Most of us can do that" Really?

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: OpenG ()
Date: April 26, 2005 18:57

Yeah it all starts with the song writing and foundation but to hear the same
songs live year in and year out since 1981 without any improvisiation makes
be sick.

I can,t listen to a live JJF or satisfaction anymore with the same canned
arrangements.

So Taylor's ability as a soloist is to enrich the material when played live
and thats what he did and still could do.

Keith could leave so much free space for Taylor to explore on stage and
that would be something for old and new fans to enjoy.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: April 26, 2005 19:15

OpenG, my statements were rhetorical and perhaps a bit sarcastic. My point, though a bit veiled, was that not everyone, not even most guitarists, can craft a solo as well as the greats. It is a rare talent and not so common as Shezeboss seems to think it is. A great song is of course a good starting point, but if everyone could do it then we wouldn't be extolling the virtues of Mr. Taylor and other great guitarists!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-04-26 19:17 by ChrisM.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: April 26, 2005 21:36

MCDDTLC Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> baboon - What about pulling out SWAY or Jivin
> Sister Fanny!!!
> Jagger could finally sing: Time Wait's For No
> One!!!!!
> Tell me that DVD wouldn't SELL!!!!!!!!! MLC

I´m not that much into Sway.
But JSF would be a goosebumper of heavenly measurements...

I had to admit I had missed TWFNO; I searched in my Media Player,
and it turned out that I´ve burnt it at some point. Its a classic,
that´s for sure: I see it´s on the iorr album. Embarassing for me, at
this forum.
I hear the famous Taylor vibrato, much influences from Santana in Taylor´s
stretched out sessions ("What do we do, Keef is zonked out, can´t wake´im up.
Ok, Taylor, do yout hing... "). Seriously its very good; I have to plug it in before the tour.


Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: MCDDTLC ()
Date: April 26, 2005 22:02

Baboon - Have you heard Taylor with Carla Olsen doing "Sway" live from 1990??

I was there (Roxy Night Club - Hollywood) find that version and listen..

see if the tune grows on you after you hear the "extended" version...

MLC

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: OpenG ()
Date: April 26, 2005 22:06

Taylor was not copying Sanatana

For all you guitar players All you have to do is play a AM chord and you sound
like Sanatana . It was Taylor's own guitar line and melody he came up with.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: April 26, 2005 22:32

Didnt mean he copied it.
But Stones for me isnt mainly Santana-like.
I love Taylor; please dont let me be misunderstood.
I guess there was a clash socially between Keefster & Taylor;
you can almost hear by following tha albums during the latters time.

MCDDTLC wrote:
"--- Baboon - Have you heard Taylor with Carla Olsen doing "Sway" live from 1990??
I was there (Roxy Night Club - Hollywood) find that version and listen..
see if the tune grows on you after you hear the "extended" version..."

No, sorry. I´m a newbie, have followed the Stones with short or long breaks since 1973-75; but has been a hard core fan (at least growing into it) only since last fall. On boots & rare stuff I´m completely off; I´m downloading now night after night... But I havent hear that 90´s version. If not before; I´ll maybe hear it in Göteborg/Gothenburg next summer.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: MCDDTLC ()
Date: April 26, 2005 22:34

Baboon - look for it on-line, I've seen it on WINMX - good luck - MLC

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: RankOutsider ()
Date: April 26, 2005 22:45

I don't think Taylor got much if anything from Santana, it's all his. Listen to 'Bare Wires' (John Mayall) "Hartley Quits" (which MT wrote), it's all there. Also the slide work and solo, (vibrato mania!) on "Killing Time", the slide work was just waiting for Love In Vain. AND he was only 19 at the time! (something like that anyway).

It's a great recording all around.

I ain't stupid, I'm just guitarded.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: April 26, 2005 22:57

Bare Wires is great RankOutsider!!!

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Shezeboss ()
Date: April 27, 2005 00:18

it's not a joke. If you live for music stones music is the most wide opened music made for all musicians. You just have to begin when guitar calls you. Above all don't study music. Music is in you or not. If not, mariah Carey's all right.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: April 27, 2005 02:11

I'm still not sure what your point is Shez. If you think that any guitar player could come up with a great guitar solo with a good song as a starting point then I'm afraid you are mistake. Like I said, if everyone could do it, we wouldn't be talking about how great Keith, Mick, Ron and all the rest are.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Shezeboss ()
Date: April 27, 2005 03:09

what I really think, is Ron and Mick don't approach guitar in the same way, I find Mick T is good but more classical than Ron. I can feel more personnal feeling in Ron's guitar. In fact, they DON'T APPROACH their job in the same way, and it's one of the important reason the RS are still here. 'Cause demonstration is not good for the rolling stones. Alchemy, friendship, rythms, miracles or bad taste (often courageous) are more important. Listen to "everything's turning to gold" or the last ron's album...
It's so rare musicians make experience of their age or play just with their weakness. So what I wanna say, is it's really MARVELLOUS, when you live for music to play just like you are, sober or drunk, not always the same. But, too easy (and without any risk) to fill great tunes with good guitars, already heard hudred times.[I think of e. clapton] Do you understand, Chris ? BYE.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Bat ()
Date: April 27, 2005 23:53

Hi all, new member here. Thought I'd take this opportunity to jump in.....

I agree that Taylor and Wood don't approach the guitar the same way. Taylor is like a Specialist, and Woody is more of a General Practitioner. If you've got a case of the blues (or "blues-rock"), then Taylor may be the LEAD guitarist you need. But if I were concerned about my long-term overall rock'n roll needs, I think I'd go with Woody. Taylor was the right guy at the right time (and the Taylor years alone would make the Stones legends), but Woody is a more versatile player. And he DEFINITELY has a greater claim to a Lifetime Achievement Award than Taylor, even if only for his songwriting.

So I'm not bashing Taylor - The Specialist was there when we needed him. But don't sell Woody short! And don't forget he's been a Stone longer than Brian was even alive!

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: April 27, 2005 23:57

Hi Bat, welcome to the board. Nice comments above. I often find Ronnie's solo work to be much more impressive then what he contributes to Stones records. He is obviously a very talented song writer but since he doesn't do much writing within the Stones he still makes the effort to release good solo albums quite often. Mick Taylor's talent speaks for itself as a lead guitarist.

Re: it's easy to make a magic solo on a good song. Isn'it Mick T ?
Posted by: rob ()
Date: April 27, 2005 23:59

Surely we will hear Time Waits.....on this farewell tour



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