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Eleanor Rigby
Kleerie will always have the last laugh.
The great man Mick Taylor will always be the greatest Stones guitarist..then and moreso now!
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Eleanor Rigby
Kleerie will always have the last laugh.
The great man Mick Taylor will always be the greatest Stones guitarist..then and moreso now!
Only technically and there are thousands of guitarists that are better technically than any stones guitarists, but Keith was the greatest stones guitarist.
What they are now doesn't really matter.
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I will just leave this here...
Ya Ya's raw acetate mp3 - http://www.hatfieldmedia.com/The Rolling Stones - 1969 - Get Yer Ya Yas Out raw acetate - sbd.zip
Thanks, Drake! Taylor's guitar (in the centre of this acetate-mix) is almost bouncing out of my headphones
The reason for replacing it must surely be that the rhythm playing is WAY too busy during Keith's solos.
On LQ? You must be kidding.
If someone only could remove the crackle! It's better than Ya Ya's.
Funny you…. This IS the Ya Ya’s version…..First you state LQ is THE prime example of Taylor’s fantastic rhythm playing, then when it is discovered it actually is an overdub by Richards you don’t like the track at all, and now you think this version is better than Ya Ya’s while it IS the Ya Ya’s version…There’s a lot of wishful thinking going on with you Taylorites!
In the right channel in the background is Richards original (live) guitar, on the left is Richards overdubbed rhythm guitar as heard on Ya Ya’s.
The overdubs: in the right channel from the start the dark, heavy guitar playing the rhythm pattern is Richards. This guitar is completely removed for Ya Ya’s. Starting from 1:08 a new rhythm guitar can be heard in the middle of the spectrum. It plays throughout the rest of the song, and sounds much like Taylor’s original track.
In the first turn-around another overdubbed guitar is added, panned to the middle –it’s the heavy, thick guitar by Richards. This overdub is also on Ya Ya’s.
At 3:10 you hear why Taylor’s guitar has been removed: he plays a rhythm going against Charlie’s ‘2’ and ‘4’, and against Richards’ laid-back ‘and 2 and 4 beat’. Taylor emphasizes the ‘1’ with his ‘tadada-dum’ rhythm, just clashing with the rest of the band.
After the turn-around the thick guitar disappears, leaving the three guitars: Richards’ original track, the overdubbed rhythm part, and Taylor in the middle, removed on the official release. The outro has Taylor’s turn-around riff again.
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DandelionPowderman
Don't read or lean on other less knowledable people's opinions - just listen!
That song, or that sound, wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for Keith. Think about that for a minute
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DandelionPowderman
Don't read or lean on other less knowledable people's opinions - just listen!
That song, or that sound, wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for Keith. Think about that for a minute
What are you talking about? Another hijacked thread?
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Eleanor Rigby
You obviously havent read the 100 threads on this board about keith and ronnie's inability to play guitar...
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Eleanor Rigby
Jesus..you guys must be deaf..and I thought Dande had a clue about playing the guitar..
His Majesty..I suggest you just get over it..you sound like a scorn lover..
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Eleanor Rigby
Yep..you are right HM.
KEITH is the greatest. .
Ronnie is so cool..
Mick taylor..who?
Am I part of the fan club?
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DandelionPowderman
Maybe he thought the overdub was Taylor? More Taylor, please!
PS: I know you can take a joke, kleerie
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straycatblues73
as for the rest , no taylor guitar , even on this "acetate". keith left and right .
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Eleanor Rigby
Haha...keith was great when he could play guitar. .not now.
At least Taylor can play a decent guitar. .he has been doing it for over 40 years!!
Fair effort. .
Forget it HM..u are a scorn woman..I'd hate to be your ex husband
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straycatblues73
as for the rest , no taylor guitar , even on this "acetate". keith left and right .
There's a guitar in middle.
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straycatblues73
as for the rest , no taylor guitar , even on this "acetate". keith left and right .
There's a guitar in middle.
no ,there isnt . turnaround remnent only
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DandelionPowderman
No, there is a rhythm guitar playing several places in there. Same style as Taylor does with the D and A on Live With Me.
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Eleanor Rigby
You obviously havent read the 100 threads on this board about keith and ronnie's inability to play guitar...
I don't care about Ronnie.
Keith more than prove himself during their first ten years, but he was hot on guitar at the very least right up to and including the 1990's.
Even on last tour he pulled out some cool stuff, like his solo when Jeff Beck was a guest. He said a whole lot about who he is as a guitarist and especially as a stones guitarist right there.
In his own way, Keith at his best is as good as Hendrix etc. Much like Hendrix, Keith drew on various influences and created a new and distinctive way of playing guitar that never really existed before.
Brian Jones, Mick Taylor and Ron Wood didn't do that.
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mtaylor
it's no accident that Taylor's stint coincided with the Stones' most consistently great recordings.
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mtaylor
it's no accident that Taylor's stint coincided with the Stones' most consistently great recordings.
I didn't know he played on Aftermath - the majority of Let It Bleed.
He jumped onboard an already well oiled, creative, ace record making machine. He was lucky in that he was asked to join in 1969 and not 1975.
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Or Stones were lucky to get MT onboard to compensate for KR detoriation.
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Or Stones were lucky to get MT onboard to compensate for KR detoriation.
Er, no.
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mtaylor
Yes it was - three good records, SF, EOMS, GHS.. after that MJ had to fight to get two good CD's, SG and TY, on the road, after that average music...
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His Majesty
In 1969 any good enough, reliable guitarist would have allowed them to continue with their chosen path live, the studio stuff was happening with a core 4 piece of the stones without Brian and Nicky and guests onboard anyway.
The inspired song writing well was drying up by 1974 even with Taylor onboard. Even he couldn't stop that.
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DandelionPowderman
No, there is a rhythm guitar playing several places in there. Same style as Taylor does with the D and A on Live With Me.
On Little Queeinie!?
The middle guitar plays straight chuck berry rhythm and does so through the majority of the track. The end lead line in middle of the mix comes flying in over it right at the end.