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Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: August 30, 2013 21:05

Then we have of course also the London Roundhouse version from the Goodbye England tour 1971:
from 04.00 on:



Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: andrewt ()
Date: August 30, 2013 21:05

Put me down for '72..some many good ones to choose from.

Here's Philly just because...




Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: DaveG ()
Date: August 30, 2013 21:28

L & G, despite the extra note thrown in toward the end of MT's dizzying solo at around the 5:55 point.

Some GIrls in Texas is also an incredible version.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: August 31, 2013 05:03

This song, in particular, was a showcase for Mick Taylor. How anyone can prefer a version without him is beyond me, but there you go.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: muffie ()
Date: August 31, 2013 05:29

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71Tele
This song, in particular, was a showcase for Mick Taylor. How anyone can prefer a version without him is beyond me, but there you go.

Absolutely. Any '72-'73 version is a treat, though I have a soft spot for the '72 NYC version. Wishing Taylor's Echoplex 2013 LIV makes an appearance.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-08-31 05:30 by muffie.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: slew ()
Date: August 31, 2013 05:54

As much as I like the MT years I love the 1978 versions. Jagger really nailed it then.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: August 31, 2013 05:59

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71Tele
This song, in particular, was a showcase for Mick Taylor.

He played as if most of the songs were. grinning smiley

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: stewedandkeefed ()
Date: August 31, 2013 07:15

Welcome To New York my fave. Ya-Yas second.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: RobertJohnson ()
Date: August 31, 2013 15:55

My fav is the '78 version. There is a perfect balance between the both guitarists, and Keith is more phrasing. And there is an abundance of passion in Jagger's singing, that fits perfectly to the song.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: straycatblues73 ()
Date: September 1, 2013 18:16

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His Majesty
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71Tele
This song, in particular, was a showcase for Mick Taylor.




fixed !

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: tklawson ()
Date: September 1, 2013 20:52

Ladies and Gentlemen. The other performances here are not even close, IMO.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: September 2, 2013 05:25

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DandelionPowderman
Powerful? Leeds 71 or Texas 78.

Ha, we agree on something at least. Leeds '71, hands down!

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: September 2, 2013 08:56

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straycatblues73
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His Majesty
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71Tele
This song, in particular, was a showcase for Mick Taylor.

He played as if most of the songs were. grinning smiley


fixed !

Indeed.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: Carnaby ()
Date: September 2, 2013 09:13

This ain't too shabby-

[www.youtube.com]

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: strat72 ()
Date: September 2, 2013 11:37

L&G by a country mile! The 78 version is good, but suffers because MT is not on it!

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: September 2, 2013 11:37

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71Tele
Ya yas. Case closed.

What more can you want. The perfect blues.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: strat72 ()
Date: September 2, 2013 11:41

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Carnaby
This ain't too shabby-

[www.youtube.com]

I watch this and wonder what happened to Rod!

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: exil ()
Date: September 2, 2013 12:03

has to be philly 72 as guitar playing goes.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: Delta ()
Date: September 2, 2013 22:40

All of them. They each have their magic BUT '72...WOW.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: roundnround ()
Date: September 2, 2013 23:31





The real Willie Mae, hearing Robert Johnson sing Love in Vain

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: September 3, 2013 00:55

Blind Lemon Jefferson - Dry Southern Blues 1929

My mind leads me to take a trip down south
My mind leads me to take a trip down south
Take a trip down south and stop at a fatmouth's house

One train's at the depot with the red and blue lights behind
One train's at the depot with the red and blue lights behind
Well, the blue light's the blues, the red light's the worried mind


I hate to tell you, sugar, it t'ain't nobody there
I hate to tell you, sugar, it t'ain't nobody there
If a man stay here, he'll stay most anywhere

I got up this mornin', ramblin' for my shoes
I got up this mornin', ramblin' for my shoes
The little woman said to me, 'It's all the world-weary blues'

Uncle Sam was no woman, but didn't he draft your man?
Uncle Sam was no woman, but didn't he draft your man?
Tell me them good-lookin' womens on the border's raisin' sand.

Well, women on the border's drinkin' over the water trough
Well, women on the border's drinkin' over the water trough
I wished Uncle Sam would hurry up and pay these soldiers off

I can't drink coffee and the woman won't make no tea
I can't drink coffee and the woman won't make no tea
I believe to my soul sweet mama gonna hoodoo me

I asked the girl did she love me, said, 'Lemon, I don't know how'
I asked the girl did she love me, said, 'Lemon, I don't know how'
Caught me commentatin', 'Yes, I love you sky high'

She had feet like a monkey, head like a teddy bear
She had feet like a monkey, head like a teddy bear
And a mouth full of lip, I guarantees it's everywhere.

I've got a girl in Cuba, I've got a girl in Spain
I've got a girl in Cuba, I've got a girl in Spain
I've got a brownie yonder in Dallas, I'm afraid to call her name



ROCKMAN

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: Edward Twining ()
Date: September 3, 2013 17:49

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DandelionPowderman
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Witness
A candidate for the most emotional satisfying version I have heard, I think, might be on the early boot LIVER THAN YOU'LL EVER BE. The emotional side of it gives the song an extra dimension to this listener.
Added: Even more ( to a larger degree) than other versions.

I still haven't heard a more emotional satisfying take on LIV than the original studio version. The dynamics on that one is seemingly very hard to re-create.

It might have to do with Keith's simple, but very emotional slide work, as well, imo.

There's something slightly off with the original LET IT BLEED version of 'Love In Vain', Dandelion, in my opinion, almost as if the arrangement in addition to Jagger's vocal is, perhaps, slightly scrappy. That has nothing to do with Keith's contribution, by the way, or Ry Cooder's sensitive mandolin playing, or the lack of Taylor's later wonderful live slide solo (should the discussion turn into simply Taylor verses ....). I believe Jagger's vocals in addition to the drumming are a little heavy handed on the original studio version, which was rare in this period, because generally the Stones around this time were nearly always pretty spot on. That may also account for why i've always felt BEGGARS BANQUET to be slightly superior to LET IT BLEED generally (i think the arrangement of 'Live With Me' to be slightly off too).

The best versions of 'Love In Vain' for me are the 69 and 72-73 live versions. 1969 in many ways is the more formal reading, where i think the potential of the LET IT BLEED arrangement, which perhaps doesn't quite come off, comes to full fruition. The 72-73 versions expand the song's musical potential to include a little memphis soul within the addition of the horns. I'd give the 72/73 versions the edge, i think.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: steini ()
Date: September 3, 2013 19:10

Thinking of it there is no single verion that stands out in my mind. This song falls in the category of songs that are usually very good, a pretty stable standard. But the Forth worth 1972 tour version of it and others from that tour would be my pick if i had to.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: svt22 ()
Date: September 3, 2013 19:35

The early Taylor versions: Ya Ya's and Essen 1970 definitely, although the more sleazy'72-73 versions with Mick were the ideal answer to the a bit fake-art-LIB cover version. Robert Johnson must have grinned in his grave I guess.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Date: September 3, 2013 19:59

We're still talking powerful, right?

I'm curious why the 78 version isn't rated as more powerful in others' opinions?

- Mick's singing is more powerful
- Both guitars are prominent and definitely more loose
- The arrangement is more bluesy and less ballad-ish

Am I interpreting the words "more powerful" incorrectly?

Edward, to me the studio version is perfection, something they have never been even close to re-create (that feel) on stage...

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: svt22 ()
Date: September 3, 2013 22:37

Powerful in the sense of played with a to the bone blues feel, the guitar(s) in particular. Imo only Taylor could do that really good in the RS. He was the blues guitarist there.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Date: September 3, 2013 23:11

How can it be more blues than what Keith does on the studio version? Musical explanations, please.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: svt22 ()
Date: September 3, 2013 23:45

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DandelionPowderman
How can it be more blues than what Keith does on the studio version? Musical explanations, please.

I do love Keith's playing, and I think he's at his best as a rhythm player, but when it comes to playing in a blues-lead environment, Mick is the best and most talented to me. Either you hear / feel it or not. That's what's blues is all about. Feeling. No explanations. I am not interested in that anymore.

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: September 4, 2013 00:27

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DandelionPowderman
How can it be more blues than what Keith does on the studio version? Musical explanations, please.

Because it's basically country? It's not blues at all without the Mick Taylor solo, and that why I prefer the 1978 versions: these are all countrified rock, to my taste much more interesting than the oblique Taylor super duper blues solo, which in the end aren't that difficult to play...

Mathijs

Re: Most Powerful Live Version of .... Love in Vain ??
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: September 4, 2013 03:51

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Mathijs
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DandelionPowderman
How can it be more blues than what Keith does on the studio version? Musical explanations, please.

Because it's basically country? It's not blues at all without the Mick Taylor solo, and that why I prefer the 1978 versions: these are all countrified rock, to my taste much more interesting than the oblique Taylor super duper blues solo, which in the end aren't that difficult to play...

Mathijs

i personally find any LIV after Taylor left an opportunity to grab a piss break if I am at a concert, or a quick forward skip to the next track on my remote control...not inspiring at all.

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