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pmk251
It is a whole different show when Taylor is on stage. Some people like it, some don't. But the impact even for those brief appearances is noticeable. I might even say enormous. When was the last time you saw Jagger forget the audience, stand and interact with the band in giddy delight? I do not think Taylor's participation was entirely successful, partly due to his odd behavior on stage. But there were moments in there I have missed with this band. He was taking it into territory it has not visited in a long time. The band was playing/creating music and not merely performing it. There were moments when it felt real.
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pmk251
It is a whole different show when Taylor is on stage. Some people like it, some don't. But the impact even for those brief appearances is noticeable. I might even say enormous. When was the last time you saw Jagger forget the audience, stand and interact with the band in giddy delight? I do not think Taylor's participation was entirely successful, partly due to his odd behavior on stage. But there were moments in there I have missed with this band. He was taking it into territory it has not visited in a long time. The band was playing/creating music and not merely performing it. There were moments when it felt real.
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pmk251
It is a whole different show when Taylor is on stage. Some people like it, some don't. But the impact even for those brief appearances is noticeable. I might even say enormous. When was the last time you saw Jagger forget the audience, stand and interact with the band in giddy delight? I do not think Taylor's participation was entirely successful, partly due to his odd behavior on stage. But there were moments in there I have missed with this band. He was taking it into territory it has not visited in a long time. The band was playing/creating music and not merely performing it. There were moments when it felt real.
Had it been for ten songs it wouldn´have been as magical, imo.
Last time I saw Jagger forget the audience? On MR without Taylor as well. It´s just that kind of song.
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It is a whole different show when Taylor is on stage. Some people like it, some don't. But the impact even for those brief appearances is noticeable. I might even say enormous. When was the last time you saw Jagger forget the audience, stand and interact with the band in giddy delight? I do not think Taylor's participation was entirely successful, partly due to his odd behavior on stage. But there were moments in there I have missed with this band. He was taking it into territory it has not visited in a long time. The band was playing/creating music and not merely performing it. There were moments when it felt real.
Had it been for ten songs it wouldn´have been as magical, imo.
Last time I saw Jagger forget the audience? On MR without Taylor as well. It´s just that kind of song.
I don't think pmk251 is hinting at that number.
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GeneGenie
Live south of the Ohio River and could not afford the travel to the nearest show. Otherwise, I would have once again paid the extravagant ticket prices. Followed it all on YouTube, IORR, and Stones.com. Not the same thing, but I guess better than nothing.
Is it just me, or did Mick J. seem like he was more genuine and less posturing during Mick T.'s stand-ins? Everything of good quality, web wise, had me salivating, but nothing like MIDNIGHT RAMBLER and CAN'T YOU HEAR ME KNOCKIN.' Lord Keith seemed to be eating it up too. I can only imagine their version of MIDNIGHT RAMBLER at Glastonbury in a small venue (5,000 -10, 000). What a treat that would be! Says a lot about the band.
One more record, one more. Bitter, conflicted, and laying it all out. You got so much time left, and you all know it. Put it on tape, or whatever they record on now.
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Naturalust
Wonderful but they can never get the damn intro to sound as powerful and amazing as the recorded version. Jimmy Miller and company be praised for that I guess. peace
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Yeah, sometimes one muscian can make the difference, like it or not.
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24FPS
His playing might have reminded them of when they mattered.
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The remaining Stones were pulled out of their torpor by having Mick Taylor with them. He at least still had something to prove. His playing might have reminded them of when they mattered.
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The remaining Stones were pulled out of their torpor by having Mick Taylor with them. He at least still had something to prove. His playing might have reminded them of when they mattered.
Well, that is why the 4th episode of the "Mick Taylor Years" is missing on Youtube. It doesn't fit in with the dream of the "Taylorites". The hard truth is that the Stones had no room for development with Taylor in any other direction than staying a guitar virtuosa noodling support act. Don't get me wrong I love Goat's Head Soup and IORR, but generally the consenses is that these albums were the sad sign of a band run out of inspiration. Mick Taylor himself admitted that he was bored playing with the Stones and his boredom clearly effected the Stones. It was said before but the Stones "had run it's mile" with Taylor, nothing new or refreshing would come from this line-up any more. In other words by 1974 the Stones "did not matter anymore". But, in 1978 with Wood and Some Girls the Stones DID matter again.
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His playing might have reminded them of when they mattered.
Oh, they've mattered to me for a very long time, and still seem to matter to a lot of other people. When I want to listen to songs written yesterday, I go see other bands (often). But I'm not worried about the Stones having to have some kind of fake "relevance." They'll always be relevant.
I loved MT's contributions too.
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His playing might have reminded them of when they mattered.
Oh, they've mattered to me for a very long time, and still seem to matter to a lot of other people. When I want to listen to songs written yesterday, I go see other bands (often). But I'm not worried about the Stones having to have some kind of fake "relevance." They'll always be relevant.
I loved MT's contributions too.
Don't take me wrong. They matter in a commercial band sense, obviously. They're still the biggest draw on the oldies circuit. But the Stones music used to be a mirror of the times they were in, and therefore relevant. Doom & Gloom touched on that old feeling, trying to say something about the current world we live in. But the Stones used to also stretch themselves out musically and let's be honest, that relevance ended over 20 years ago. Of course the Stones as historical icons will always be relevant. The 1963-1989 band will have no equal. Other than setting records for seats sold, the band's history won't matter much after that golden time period.
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Live south of the Ohio River and could not afford the travel to the nearest show. Otherwise, I would have once again paid the extravagant ticket prices. Followed it all on YouTube, IORR, and Stones.com. Not the same thing, but I guess better than nothing.
Is it just me, or did Mick J. seem like he was more genuine and less posturing during Mick T.'s stand-ins? Everything of good quality, web wise, had me salivating, but nothing like MIDNIGHT RAMBLER and CAN'T YOU HEAR ME KNOCKIN.' Lord Keith seemed to be eating it up too. I can only imagine their version of MIDNIGHT RAMBLER at Glastonbury in a small venue (5,000 -10, 000). What a treat that would be! Says a lot about the band.
One more record, one more. Bitter, conflicted, and laying it all out. You got so much time left, and you all know it. Put it on tape, or whatever they record on now.
Yes, GeneGenie.
And PK, it did feel "real." By jove, it was!
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His playing might have reminded them of when they mattered.
Oh, they've mattered to me for a very long time, and still seem to matter to a lot of other people. When I want to listen to songs written yesterday, I go see other bands (often). But I'm not worried about the Stones having to have some kind of fake "relevance." They'll always be relevant.
I loved MT's contributions too.
Don't take me wrong. They matter in a commercial band sense, obviously. They're still the biggest draw on the oldies circuit. But the Stones music used to be a mirror of the times they were in, and therefore relevant. Doom & Gloom touched on that old feeling, trying to say something about the current world we live in. But the Stones used to also stretch themselves out musically and let's be honest, that relevance ended over 20 years ago. Of course the Stones as historical icons will always be relevant. The 1963-1989 band will have no equal. Other than setting records for seats sold, the band's history won't matter much after that golden time period.
Again and again this insistence that the "1963-1989 band" is the best. I don't get it. Is it because Bill left afterwards? Bill's leaving did not initiate their decline. The Stones themselves ever found him that important: Bill only played on 60% of the recordings during those years--Keith, Ron and even Mick Taylor often played the bass in his absence, and, quite honestly, often better than Bill would have! To put anything after 1981 on a pedestal is just weird. Steel Wheels was an awful album. I enjoy Undercover and Dirty Work quite a bit (they're not top tenners or even close) but Steel Wheels was just terrible--bad lyrics, dated production (gated reverb drums! synths! overproduced! too many backing singers!). Voodoo Lounge is no more "songs reminiscent of past glories" than Steel Wheels; in fact, Voodoo Lounge doesn't have a single song that features a riff they had literally already used, whereas "Rock And A Hard Place" is exactly the same riff from "Sole Survivor" and "It Must Be Hell" in a different key. Second time they recycled that riff! There are attempts at being "modern sounding" all over both Steel Wheels and Voodoo Lounge and mostly they fall flat. None of their albums since Tattoo You have been masterpieces, and, at least to me, none of their albums beginning with Steel Wheels have been very memorable. It also must be said that not ONE song on Steel Wheels is even close to the equal of the killer opening Voodoo Lounge cut "Love Is Strong," which features a great bass line btw (that Darryl/Kenny Jones comparison is ridiculous--as if Bill's playing was to the bass guitar what Keith Moon was to the drums! not even close). That was their last great single until "Doom And Gloom." There are a few highlights on all their quartet albums that are better than every song on Steel Wheels. "Almost Hear You Sigh" is the only reason to even own Steel Wheels, and it's not as good as the few highlights (and there are only a few!) on the following so-called quartet albums.
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Is Charlie Watts qualified to pick rock and roll musicians?