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blivet
This is something of a tangent, but it never occurred to me before that the two people who put the band together in the first place were both fired from it. That band is quite strange in so many ways.
He was not fired, he continued working with the Stones.
It was a unique situation for him, but he accepted it.
Different from being 'fired'.
Stu was not forced out of the band, nor did he leave. He was demoted, at the behest of ALO for marketing purposes (i.e., the "look" of the group). The Stones organization retained him as a road manager, and he was still allowed to record with them in the studio. In later years he was even on stage with them.Quote
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blivet
This is something of a tangent, but it never occurred to me before that the two people who put the band together in the first place were both fired from it. That band is quite strange in so many ways.
He was not fired, he continued working with the Stones.
It was a unique situation for him, but he accepted it.
Different from being 'fired'.
You are quibbling over my choice of words. The fact remains they were both forced out of the band. Or are you going to claim that Stu left voluntarily?
well he wasn't forced out as in no more involvement. His role changed but he sure kept on recording and playing live with the band. I don't mean to be quibbling with you. It's just that I'm very interested in Stu the man, and his story. He did not want to end his involvement in The Rolling Stones. He may have, probably did, harbor some resentment for his ouster but he understood the marketing tactic behind it. I don't think he pissed off the rest of the band in any way, as Brian surely did. Brian was in Keith's words, a guy who could be so great in one way and such an @#$%& in another. Stu was none of that, he was supportive, he was ultimately a team player. I guess it's up for debate whether he was a Rolling Stone. I suspect if you asked them, the Stones themselves would say he was.Quote
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blivet
This is something of a tangent, but it never occurred to me before that the two people who put the band together in the first place were both fired from it. That band is quite strange in so many ways.
He was not fired, he continued working with the Stones.
It was a unique situation for him, but he accepted it.
Different from being 'fired'.
You are quibbling over my choice of words. The fact remains they were both forced out of the band. Or are you going to claim that Stu left voluntarily?
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stonehearted
Being forced out/leaving/fired only applies to Brian, as all creative and professional ties with the Stones were severed.
Well, sure, the Stones office would still be at his disposal. Perhaps as part of the severance agreement. He would, after all, as part of the payout agreement, be connected in the business sense into perpetuity.Quote
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stonehearted
Being forced out/leaving/fired only applies to Brian, as all creative and professional ties with the Stones were severed.
Interesting to note that the stones office was helping him to find other musicians, sending telegrams etc.
It was just a three or so week period of course.
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stonehearted
Well, sure, the Stones office would still be at his disposal. Perhaps as part of the severance agreement. He would, after all, as part of the payout agreement, be connected in the business sense into perpetuity.
But his creative and professional ties with the Stones themselves, that was done. He no longer had rights to use of the band name, except to be referred to as an "ex-Rolling Stone".
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VideoJames
" He then reportedly tried to form a supergroup with John Lennon, who had stayed friendly with Jones after his firing".
Someone posted this on Beatles Bible forum:
"Some say that he also recorded (in 1968) a demo with John Lennon and Denny Laine a track called "Go to the Mountains" in an ad hoc band called, of all things, BALLS.
October 1968 Returning to Britain, Denny Laine jams with the ad-hoc outfit Balls, which features John Lennon and Rolling Stone Brian Jones. The band reportedly records a song titled Go To The Mountains for Apple but it is never released"
Don't know of there's any truth to it, but maybe someone knows?
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paulspendel
After he died Brian's mum and dad visited the Stones office several times to sort things out.