Picked up a Phase 100 about a year, or so, ago. Best phaser for Shattered that I've found. I kinda dig phase pedals.


Fulltone MDV2, HBE Psilocybe, MXR Phase 100, EHX Worm, EHX Small Stone, EHX/Sovtek Small Stone

They each have their own thing going on. Another nice subtle phaser is the MXR Phase 45.





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Thanks for the info above. I just ordered a Phase 100. Looking forward to it!

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Utter shite.

No it is not!

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(The guitar sound) was the MXR Phaser - the 100 model - and I damped (putting the base of the hand on the base of the strings to stop them from ringing) the guitar. That's what gives it that sound.
- Keith Richards, 1982

Have any guitar players here used this (a Google search just showed plenty for sale). Or have you found some newer device you prefer that's good at duplicating the SHATTERED guitar sound?

I got the MXR 90. I've yet to get the 100. The 90 sounds great. The 100 has more to it, can get that real deep phase going on that Keith uses.

It's a pretty inventive and cool track with its punk-meets-rap-thing but I find it too repetitive and boring in the long run.

Watched this on youtube. Most enjoyable. Has anyone else seen this?

Great live / great performace / great rythm / great "singing" from Jagger, what else can you expect.

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(The guitar sound) was the MXR Phaser - the 100 model - and I damped (putting the base of the hand on the base of the strings to stop them from ringing) the guitar. That's what gives it that sound.
- Keith Richards, 1982

Have any guitar players here used this (a Google search just showed plenty for sale). Or have you found some newer device you prefer that's good at duplicating the SHATTERED guitar sound?

I use it, you'll get the whole Some Girls album outta this baby!

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It's a pretty inventive and cool track with its punk-meets-rap-thing but I find it too repetitive and boring in the long run.

Yeah, it's an experiment that worked, but it doesn't hold up.

The song kicks ass, great riff, great lyrics, great bridge. Huh, Shidoobeee!

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The song kicks ass, great riff, great lyrics, great bridge. Huh, Shidoobeee!

Agreed...it just doesn't hold my interest after the 30th listen.

Great outtake, but also serves as a karaoke version >>> [www.iorr.org]

This song I think has grown from absolutely miserable to a classic in rock history ...

2 1 2 0

The live versions exceed the studio one by far. I like most the rendition in 81/82.

It's just an awful song.







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I think the studio version is underrated. Love the live versions from 1978-1982 +SNL but the bridge never sounded as good as on the studio version. Actually the riff is better on studio version. That numb thumping riffing is fantastic.

My MXR Phase 100 just arrived in the mail today. I was surprised it came with no instructional booklet (instead lots of product promotion booklets!), but I just watched a Phase 100 video on Jimdunlop.com, however it featured mainly jazz playing. So any tips from you guys on how you use the MXR Phase 100 to play the Stones would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

What I just pulled from the box:

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My MXR Phase 100 just arrived in the mail today. I was surprised it came with no instructional booklet (instead lots of product promotion booklets!), but I just watched a Phase 100 video on Jimdunlop.com, however it featured mainly jazz playing. So any tips from you guys on how you use the MXR Phase 100 to play the Stones would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

What I just pulled from the box:

Richards used this setting live: Intensity to the far right, speed at 1 o' clock.

Richards used a script logo MXR Phase 100 from 1975 to 1981, and replaced it in 1982 with a block logo version. The old script logo phasers sound deeper, warmer and fatter than any block logo MXR and new Dunlop MXR Phasers, and hence are sought after. On Ebay there's script logo versions available that look very new: these are made in the '90's with old parts that came available after MXR went out of business. The only real way to identify these new ones is to check the serial numbers on the pots: these are 1990's serial numbers, not early 1970's.

Mathijs

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My MXR Phase 100 just arrived in the mail today. I was surprised it came with no instructional booklet (instead lots of product promotion booklets!), but I just watched a Phase 100 video on Jimdunlop.com, however it featured mainly jazz playing. So any tips from you guys on how you use the MXR Phase 100 to play the Stones would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

What I just pulled from the box:

Richards used this setting live: Intensity to the far right, speed at 1 o' clock.

Richards used a script logo MXR Phase 100 from 1975 to 1981, and replaced it in 1982 with a block logo version. The old script logo phasers sound deeper, warmer and fatter than any block logo MXR and new Dunlop MXR Phasers, and hence are sought after. On Ebay there's script logo versions available that look very new: these are made in the '90's with old parts that came available after MXR went out of business. The only real way to identify these new ones is to check the serial numbers on the pots: these are 1990's serial numbers, not early 1970's.

Mathijs

Using that setting on the newer MXR Phase 100 would kill the effect, because the sound would be way too muddy.

I'd like to try the script logo-phaser one day.

Great info Mathijs, thanks! Treble on guitar would be pretty low I guess? Studio version I mean.

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My MXR Phase 100 just arrived in the mail today. I was surprised it came with no instructional booklet (instead lots of product promotion booklets!), but I just watched a Phase 100 video on Jimdunlop.com, however it featured mainly jazz playing. So any tips from you guys on how you use the MXR Phase 100 to play the Stones would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

What I just pulled from the box:

Richards used this setting live: Intensity to the far right, speed at 1 o' clock.

Richards used a script logo MXR Phase 100 from 1975 to 1981, and replaced it in 1982 with a block logo version. The old script logo phasers sound deeper, warmer and fatter than any block logo MXR and new Dunlop MXR Phasers, and hence are sought after. On Ebay there's script logo versions available that look very new: these are made in the '90's with old parts that came available after MXR went out of business. The only real way to identify these new ones is to check the serial numbers on the pots: these are 1990's serial numbers, not early 1970's.

Mathijs

Using that setting on the newer MXR Phase 100 would kill the effect, because the sound would be way too muddy.

I'd like to try the script logo-phaser one day.

Are you sure? The first three sweep/regenaration modes are not of much use outside reggea or jazz, the fourth mode is closest to a Phase 90, which basically emulates a warm Leslie. It's the most subtle sounding mode, and with speed at 12 or 1 it has great depth without drowning out.

I never heard that much difference between old and new phasers, except for the fact that old script logo versions where more 'musical', they where just a tad warmer and fatter.

And beware, MXR Phase 90 and 100's are quite muddy -it's best to use with a bright guitar and bright sounding amp, IMO. Richards sound on Hampton's Shattered is very muddy, but it's fantastic as well!

Mathijs

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Great info Mathijs, thanks! Treble on guitar would be pretty low I guess? Studio version I mean.

I guess Richards used a Gibson LP Junior with neck pickup for the recording of Shattered, lots of right hand damping and a hot amp, probably the Boogie MK1.

I prefer Telecasters with a Phase 100 -Gibsons make them sound too muddy for my taste, you get a Brian May kind of sound that isn't my style.

Mathijs

The intensity knob is reversed, on the Dunlops reissues. So take note for Keith's settings.

I don't have the pedal in front of me. I've read his Shattered setting is Intenisity: 1 or 4 Speed: 12(studio) and 2ish(live).

Unless side-by-side, they all sound like a Phase 100.

Not my video.






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For DJ´s in the late 70ies and early 80ies "Shattered" was always a funny risky choice.
If you had a full dancefloor full of wild dancing people the croud went even more crazy when you put on the song.
And just one day later all left the dancefloor for toilet and drinks.

"Shattered" is a crazy little pearl.

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The intensity knob is reversed, on the Dunlops reissues. So take note for Keith's settings.

I don't have the pedal in front of me. I've read his Shattered setting is Intenisity: 1 or 4 Speed: 12(studio) and 2ish(live).

Unless side-by-side, they all sound like a Phase 100.

Not my video.

Never noticed the intensity know being reversed on the new ones!

Even on this clip I find the script version to be better sounding: fatter, warmer, and more of that liquid swoosh.

Mathijs

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My MXR Phase 100 just arrived in the mail today. I was surprised it came with no instructional booklet (instead lots of product promotion booklets!), but I just watched a Phase 100 video on Jimdunlop.com, however it featured mainly jazz playing. So any tips from you guys on how you use the MXR Phase 100 to play the Stones would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

What I just pulled from the box:

Richards used this setting live: Intensity to the far right, speed at 1 o' clock.

Richards used a script logo MXR Phase 100 from 1975 to 1981, and replaced it in 1982 with a block logo version. The old script logo phasers sound deeper, warmer and fatter than any block logo MXR and new Dunlop MXR Phasers, and hence are sought after. On Ebay there's script logo versions available that look very new: these are made in the '90's with old parts that came available after MXR went out of business. The only real way to identify these new ones is to check the serial numbers on the pots: these are 1990's serial numbers, not early 1970's.

Mathijs

Using that setting on the newer MXR Phase 100 would kill the effect, because the sound would be way too muddy.

I'd like to try the script logo-phaser one day.

Are you sure? The first three sweep/regenaration modes are not of much use outside reggea or jazz, the fourth mode is closest to a Phase 90, which basically emulates a warm Leslie. It's the most subtle sounding mode, and with speed at 12 or 1 it has great depth without drowning out.

I never heard that much difference between old and new phasers, except for the fact that old script logo versions where more 'musical', they where just a tad warmer and fatter.

And beware, MXR Phase 90 and 100's are quite muddy -it's best to use with a bright guitar and bright sounding amp, IMO. Richards sound on Hampton's Shattered is very muddy, but it's fantastic as well!

Mathijs

I know, but speed at 1 o'clock drowns the cool effect for me (on my Hot Rod DeVille amp anyway). It's enough with speed at 8 o'clock for me to get that Shattered sound.

I've tried it extensively with all my guitars (Tele, Strats, Les Paul as well as my new Gretch Electromatic), and it's the same way. Too much speed, too much effects.



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I haven't opened mine up in a while. Do the RI have a trimpot?

I found a TGP thread, where the OP adjusted their's. Claimed it increased/decreased the effect. No replies, however.
[www.thegearpage.net]

Trimpots = mark initial setting!

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great lyrics

I dislike the lyrics



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

And I dislike _help me please help me ,should I say I don't like it at all ?
the "repetitive" /monotony



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

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I haven't opened mine up in a while. Do the RI have a trimpot?

I found a TGP thread, where the OP adjusted their's. Claimed it increased/decreased the effect. No replies, however.
[www.thegearpage.net]

Trimpots = mark initial setting!

I don't recall a trim pot in any vintage Phase 90 or 100...

Mathijs