here's my list:

Satisfaction - better live, otis redding style
JJF - studio version
HTW - studio
MR - live
Gimme Shelter - studio
YCAGWYW - studio
Brown Sugar - live
Sympathy for the Devil - live
Start Me up - live
Miss You - studio
IORR - studio
PIB - studio

Streets of Love- neither
Back To Zero- neither
Already Over Me- neither
You Don't Have to Mean It- neither
Anyway You Look At It- neither

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Streets of Love- neither
Back To Zero- neither
Already Over Me- neither
You Don't Have to Mean It- neither
Anyway You Look At It- neither

those "warhorses" went the glue factory a long time ago... :-)

None..

Maybe Rambler. Tumbling Dice used to be better live than on record but not so any longer. All the rest are better on records. Especially if you compare them with later days live versions.

I'd prefer the studio versions of Miss You, Start Me Up and Shattered...and I wish they'd reign in the overblown nature of some of the others (Satisfaction, JJF, BS)...

Happy, Love in vain, You can't always get what you want, Street Fighting Man, Heartbreaker, MR. D, Midnight Rambler,Satisfaction,Stray Cat Blues,Dead Flowers,All down the line,and maybe Gimme Shelter and Brown Sugar. -All from '69 - '73...Tumblig Dice '78...I could probably name many more -Stones have always been a great live band!

Stray Cat Blues on Ya Ya's..........

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Sympathy For The Devil is a tricky one. The studio take is sublime and there have been some incredible live renditions, especially those with Taylor and during the Steel Wheels and Urban Jungle tours. In recent years, however, it's been pitiful.

Generally speaking, no live renditions quite match the majesty of those 1968-72 studio recordings.

Satisfaction - 1969 tour
Paint It Black - Studio
Sympathy For The Devil - 1969 tour
JJF - 1969 tour
HTW - TOTA/1981
MR - 1969, 1973 tours
Gimme Shelter - Studio
YCAGWYW - Studio
Brown Sugar - Several tours but the studio version is outstanding
Tumbling Dice - Studio; liked 1994 version
Happy - 1973, TOTA, Licks
IORR - TOTA, 1989/90
Miss You - Studio
Shattered - 1994 tour
Start Me Up - 1989 tour
You Got Me Rocking - None

Missing any?

I forgot about happy. Just heard it on the radio. I agree it's best on the 72-73 tour. Love the studio version but the singing and Taylor's soloing in 72-73 were best.

I like the studio version of Start Me Up better than the live one.

I love the sound of Ronnie's squawking fills in between the main chords that Keith plays, especially in the beginning.

So everyone hates you got me rocking

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Sympathy For The Devil is a tricky one. The studio take is sublime and there have been some incredible live renditions, especially those with Taylor and during the Steel Wheels and Urban Jungle tours. In recent years, however, it's been pitiful.

Personally I don't like the idea of the rhythm track they play. It was incredible in 69 though. This year was the first time in a while I have seen jagger sing it with conviction but keith seems bored by it.

I really love the post 1981 JJF live versions. Especially when Ronniw Wood is high on the mix.

Satisfaction is hard to duplicate to the live without loosing much of its charm.

GS is the only song, I guess, which I love equally in 4 different versions (studio, 1969 tour, 1972 STP and 1973 Europe) - its a totally different song in each of the cases.

The Stones are great on the studio, and play better on studio (except for BW and sometimes MT). This is contrast to the Who - who actually produced some numbers who to my opinion worth only live!

Anymore, only JJF, especially the 4 minute opening version. Otherwise, they try to imitate the studio(Sympathy), and they are just gutted, they have become boring.

Only Midnight Rambler

Rambler is clearly the one where the live version cuts the studio to shreds.

Conversely, Tumbling Dice is such a perfectly constructed studio track, particularly Charlie's drumming, that they have never come close to live.

Yeah, Sympathy is the tough one -- as was pointed out, the studio track is sublime, the 69 live versions with Taylor also great but most other live vfersions not coming close.

I think Satisfaction is like Dice -- a perfect record that live versions cannot touch.

Brown Sugar - Live Rotterdam 73 with Taylor on slide. What a hot opening track.
Happy - Brussels 73 with Taylor soloing. Studio version pales in comparison.
GS - Live 72/73 is awesome but quite different to original studio track which I also love.
Tumbling Dice - Live Brussels or Perth 73 'oh baby I love ya'. Sublime.
Love In Vain - NY 72 with Taylor on slide.
YCAGWYW - Brussels 73 is gorgeous with the sax break.
Midnight Rambler - Brussels 73 obliterate the studio or YAYAs version.
Sympathy For The Devil - hard to touch the samba of the studio version. YaYas 69 and LA Friday 75 are great live renditions.
IORR - live never matched the guitar work of the studio or even promo film version.
HTW - studio version, though Hyde Park '69 sloppiness is awesome.
JJF - studio version.
Street Fighting Man - London 73 is intense. Quite different to the studio version that's also great.
Satisfaction - Gimme Shelter movie 69 'i need a good woman to keep me satisfied..'

The 73 tour also gave the Goats Head Soup tracks a major workout. That album could have been noticable btter if the live renditions of 100 years ago, Heartbreaker, Silver Train, Dancing with Mr D replaced the studio ones.



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Out Of Control. Is that a war horse?
As good as OOC is on the album, it really cooks live in concert

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Rambler is clearly the one where the live version cuts the studio to shreds.

Conversely, Tumbling Dice is such a perfectly constructed studio track, particularly Charlie's drumming, that they have never come close to live.

Yeah, Sympathy is the tough one -- as was pointed out, the studio track is sublime, the 69 live versions with Taylor also great but most other live vfersions not coming close.

I think Satisfaction is like Dice -- a perfect record that live versions cannot touch.

Good point about tumbling dice. Always a disappointment live for some reason.

Satisfaction - live
JJF - live
HTW - studio
MR - live
Gimme Shelter - studio
YCAGWYW - studio
Brown Sugar - live
Sympathy for the Devil - studio
Start Me up - live
Miss You - studio
IORR - studio
PIB - studio

I think most of those are indisputable, but I guess not. Some like HTW and Start Me Up I think it can be either, but the rest of the list I did in a second.

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Rambler is clearly the one where the live version cuts the studio to shreds.

Conversely, Tumbling Dice is such a perfectly constructed studio track, particularly Charlie's drumming, that they have never come close to live.

Yeah, Sympathy is the tough one -- as was pointed out, the studio track is sublime, the 69 live versions with Taylor also great but most other live vfersions not coming close.

I think Satisfaction is like Dice -- a perfect record that live versions cannot touch.

Good point about tumbling dice. Always a disappointment live for some reason.

Agreed.....as far as live goes, I like the Ronnie versions better than the MT ones......just too clean. The studio track just rolls though.

I'd have to agree "Tumbling Dice" studio is better.

I think it really depends on which live version.
Midnight Rambler was a monster in 69-73, but has gotten a little boring.
JJF was great in 69 only but other than that - always studio.
GS always studio, same with Happy.
HTW has charm live but that rhythm and sparse arrangement of studio is classic. Same goes for "SFTD - the Yaya version is outstanding, but you can't beat that grand piano and congas, the ooh-oohs and that lead guitar of original.
SFM...now there is one. On Ya-Yas and then even more on Brussels Taylor dominates. And even the Stripped version is beautiful.
Miss You and SMU - studio

89/90 - all warhorses were perfect
After - only Midnight Rambler but D.J`s bass is still poor

M.R. studio version has a blues charm they can't play live.
The live MR has a more rocking feel to it. And I love it live.

But the studio version is very cool. The 69 live version comes
Close . Play it Loud!

These days only MR is better live.

In 1973 almost all warhorses were better live than studio.

Even in 81/82 many songs were better live than studio.

Lots of postings on here with 'classic' Stones songs, but are they 'warhorses'? I consider the warhorses to be the songs they rely on doing EVERY tour it seems, to please the casual fans: JJF, HTW, BS, SMU, Sympathy, IORR, Miss You, Shattered, Tunbling Dice, Satisfaction and maybe YCAGWYW.

I don't consider Rambler a warhorse as it has not been done (or overdone) as regularly as those above.

And of all the above, Rambler is the only one beats the studio version every time live. Tumbling Dice I enjoy live quite a bit. The rest aren't even close to as good live. Satisfaction, at least in the post-1970 period, is usually embarrassing live....sung without passion and played without passion.