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georgie48
Hi Deltics,
I went over Ernie Cefalu's spoken interview several times. It puzzles me, because he says that John Pasche came after his version of february 1971. At the same time Ernie is not quite sure about the dates. FACT is that JP's original creation is medio 1970 and NOT 1971 (and so not created after Ernie's result). Also Ernie talks about a guy named Chuch (a roadie). There is only one Chuch that can be "linked" to that merchandise shirt (2002/2003 tour) and that would be late Chuch Magee (friend of Ronnie Wood) and he only became involved in the world of the Stones, after Ronnie Wood had joined the band. So Chuch could have nothing to do with the "misterious" final (red) Stones logo, which apparently is not JP's!
We'll get there one day ....
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georgie48
Does anyone in the USA or Canada have an original image of the logo as it is printed on the backside of the Some Girls 1978 vinyl album?
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georgie48
Does anyone in the USA or Canada have an original image of the logo as it is printed on the backside of the Some Girls 1978 vinyl album?
Original images could be on www.discogs.com.
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georgie48
when did the Stones come up with their first variation on the "classic" red tongue&lip version? Was it in connection with the Steel Wheels tour or even earlier?
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Naturalust
The real question is: Did Pasche see Ceflau's artwork first or did some guy at the art agency see Pasche's artwork first and give the idea to Ceflau?
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GasLightStreet
It's been made clear that Jagger and Pasche talked and Pasche came up with the logo. Ernie Cefalu just needs to go away.
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GasLightStreet
It's been made clear that Jagger and Pasche talked and Pasche came up with the logo. Ernie Cefalu just needs to go away.
Cefalu's art was used for a bunch of promo stuff during that time, he's still valid for that. Besides there is obviously more to the story with an art agency and Marshall Chess being involved. So there were two artists doing the logo, no worries. I'll even concede that Pasche was first used by the Stones. But they obviously used both at some time. peace
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PTownshend
John Pasche came up with the logo. period
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PTownshend
John Pasche came up with the logo. period
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!
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GasLightStreet
Look on page 1 now that BV has joined this thread with the other tongue thread. It says:
Jagger reportedly approached the Royal College of Art in 1969 looking to commission images for the band... John created his first poster artwork for the Rolling Stones in 1970 during his final year at the Royal College of Art. He was then commissioned directly by Mick Jagger to produce a logo for the band.
[www.belgraviagallery.com]
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Bitches Brew
The fact is that more than one design was made, and that the Pasche's one was the final one, but not his idea. And there is also that design from Alan Aldridge from 1969...